Anonymous
Post 06/15/2013 08:43     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
My understanding is, in general, private school GBRS's are inflated. It would be interesting to look at a histogram of the scores from FCPS vs a private. My understanding is some privates routinely give 16's. By comparison, 16 is very rare in public schools.

Anonymous
Post 06/14/2013 21:52     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am starting my daughters paperwork for next year. She got a GBRS of 16 but she doesnt seem to make the cutoff requirement on the WISC... scored FSIQ 126 but VCI is 115 and PRI 116.

will the GBRS help her case in your opinion?


I wouldn't count on the GBRS helping much if you're coming from private school. Even though it may be inconsistent in FCPS, it's probably still considered more objective. GL


+1. Do you have other test results? GMU offers NNAT/CogAT twice a year, $150 for both, that worth a try. If your daughter can't make any of the cutoff of the tests (130), it will be tough, since GBRS from private school might not hold that much weight to the committee without proper test scores. My DC is also from private school with GBRS 16, but 142 NNAT/138 CoGAT, eligible first try.


Isnt the Wisc more detailed? I would think that if she didnt score that high on the Wisc, chances are she would not score too high on cognat/NNAT? or am i wrong in making that assumption?
It's a shame, she did so well on GBRS, I would hate for her not to get in, but I suppose that program is just not for her.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2013 21:49     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
Anonymous wrote:When you say starting for next year, you mean for fall of 2013? If so, and you are a county resident, you are too late. If you mean getting a jump on applications for 2014, how do you have the gbrs already?


no I mean I want to meet the AAP deadline of Nov 2013. So she can enroll for the sept 2014 school year. I have the GBRS already because I got her teachers to fill out the form. DD is coming from a private school. I will turn that in for the Nov deadling. I just prepared everything ahead of time.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2013 21:46     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
OK thanks, I will try the cogAT/NNAT, i wasnt aware that was even an option.

Anonymous
Post 06/14/2013 17:11     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
Anonymous wrote:hope we can get result next Monday



Are the results coming in next week? I thought they were sending them out on 6/28.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2013 16:03     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am starting my daughters paperwork for next year. She got a GBRS of 16 but she doesnt seem to make the cutoff requirement on the WISC... scored FSIQ 126 but VCI is 115 and PRI 116.

will the GBRS help her case in your opinion?


I wouldn't count on the GBRS helping much if you're coming from private school. Even though it may be inconsistent in FCPS, it's probably still considered more objective. GL


+1. Do you have other test results? GMU offers NNAT/CogAT twice a year, $150 for both, that worth a try. If your daughter can't make any of the cutoff of the tests (130), it will be tough, since GBRS from private school might not hold that much weight to the committee without proper test scores. My DC is also from private school with GBRS 16, but 142 NNAT/138 CoGAT, eligible first try.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2013 15:54     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
Anonymous wrote:I am starting my daughters paperwork for next year. She got a GBRS of 16 but she doesnt seem to make the cutoff requirement on the WISC... scored FSIQ 126 but VCI is 115 and PRI 116.

will the GBRS help her case in your opinion?


I wouldn't count on the GBRS helping much if you're coming from private school. Even though it may be inconsistent in FCPS, it's probably still considered more objective. GL
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2013 15:51     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
hope we can get result next Monday
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2013 15:27     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
wow, a gbrs of 16!
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2013 13:59     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
When you say starting for next year, you mean for fall of 2013? If so, and you are a county resident, you are too late. If you mean getting a jump on applications for 2014, how do you have the gbrs already?
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2013 12:49     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
115 and 116 are not very high, and these are the 2 areas of the WISC that the cmte looks at. I would do another test - the CogAT, perhaps, in the fall.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2013 11:59     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
Anonymous wrote:I am starting my daughters paperwork for next year. She got a GBRS of 16 but she doesnt seem to make the cutoff requirement on the WISC... scored FSIQ 126 but VCI is 115 and PRI 116.

will the GBRS help her case in your opinion?


Im wondering if I should even turn in the paperwork or if i should just try the WISC again in another year (she is in pvt school)
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2013 11:58     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
I am starting my daughters paperwork for next year. She got a GBRS of 16 but she doesnt seem to make the cutoff requirement on the WISC... scored FSIQ 126 but VCI is 115 and PRI 116.

will the GBRS help her case in your opinion?
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2013 11:52     Subject: Re:GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
Here is the updated list again! Please update the missing GBRS & other scores.

1. WISC: VCI 132 PRI 123 WM 120 PS 137 FSIQ 135
GBRS: 8
NNAT 135
FxAT 79%

2. WISC: VCI 124 PRI 141 FSIQ 138
GBRS: 11

3. WISC: VCI 138 PRI 137 WM 129 PS 141 FSIQ 147
GBRS: 8
NNAT: 145
FxAT: 86%

4. WISC: VCI 138 PRI 131 WM 126 PS 128 FSIQ 140
GBRS: 13
NNAT: 135
FxAT: 83%

5. WISC: VCI 128 PRI 120 FSIQ 129
GBRS: 10

6. WISC: FSIQ 144
GBRS: 16
NNAT: 126
FxAT: 76

7. SB: 132
WISC: 133
GBRS: 11

8. WISC: FSIQ 145 VCI 137 PRI 135 WM 130 PS 140
GBRS: 6
NNAT 145
FxAT 78%

9. WISC: VCI 115 PRI 136 WM 110 PS 115 FSIQ 126
GBRS 12

10. WISC: 128 PR 133 WM 126 PS 121 FSIQ 135
GBRS 12
NNAT 156
FxAT 89

11. WISC: VSI 112 PRI 139 WM 110 PS 115 FSIQ 126

12. WISC: FSIQ 129
GBRS 8

13. WISC: VCI 138 PRI 132
GBRS 8

14. WISC: FSIQ 132 VCI 135 PRI 130
GBRS 10

15. WISC: VC 130 PR 127 WM 123 PS 112 FSIQ: 130
GBRS: 13

16. WISC: FSIQ 149 VCI 134 PRI 141 PSI 133
NNAT 139
CogAt 89%
GBRS 6

17. WISC: 150
NNAT:129
CogAt:83%

18. WISC: FSIQ: 123 VCI: 126 PRI: 125
GBRS: 11

19. FSIQ: 134 VCI: 132 PRI: 137 WMI-120 PSI: 112
GBRS: 8

20. WISC: FSIQ 146 VCI: 140 PRI:149 WMI:129 PSI:121
NNAT : 146
GBRS : 6
FxAT : 86%

21. WISC: FSIQ: 124 VCI:119 PRI:125 WMI:120 PSI:109
NNAT: 150
FxAT: 71%
GBRS: 13

22. WISC: FSIQ 130 VCI: 119 PRI 125 WMI: 110 PSI: 139
NNAT: 124
FxAT 89%

23. WISC: FSIQ: 150
NNAT: 151
FxAT: 78%
GBRS: 11

24. WISC 152, VCI=146, PRI=139, WMI=139, PSI=144
GBRS=9

25. WISC : FSIQ 130 VCI:114 PRI 135 WMI: 125 PSI :122
GBRS:10
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2013 11:29     Subject: Re:GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
Anonymous wrote:To the person who posted this:

"I am in the same situation and hopeful to win denial. We are #24 on the list WISC 152 with VCI 144, PRI 139 and have been hopeful to win with the GBRS=9!"

Placement is based on your child's educational needs. It is not a trophy that you win.[/quote]

So, true, but so many parents see AAP as some sort of reward for success in school, not as a support system for a child's educational needs. Some parents will even announce their child's test scores at the bus stop!