Anonymous wrote:There is no way the county will become more selective. The in pool score will never be higher than 132. They will simply enlarge the number of AAP classrooms, if indeed the huge pool is not a rumour propogated by a troll who enjoys inserting extra doubt and anxiety into the process. I agree totally with PP . . . If you're not a troll, name the principal.

who are you to say this? a troll?

There is no way the county will become more selective. The in pool score will never be higher than 132. They will simply enlarge the number of AAP classrooms, if indeed the huge pool is not a rumour propogated by a troll who enjoys inserting extra doubt and anxiety into the process. I agree totally with PP . . . If you're not a troll, name the principal.

two comments:

First, if the principal stated this at a PTA meeting, he should be identified. Otherwise, we can assume it is a lie by a troll.

Second, if there has been score inflation, it is probably the result of test prep -- something that is not good overall. While I can afford test prep, not everyone can. That can further to harm economically disadvantaged children. The companies that do the test prep claim 15 point increase (or more). That 15 points does not make your child one standard deviation unit smarter. These tests were not designed for test prep. And the way the county uses them, as a proxy for an IQ test, is the problem.

I meant to type "you could look at it as a good THING..."

If it is true, they CAN change the score that counts as the in-pool score. I thought in years past that it varied a little from 132 to 134 or something close to that.

Or they can just screen all the files that are 130 and just be more selective about who has "the whole package."

While there will be some who are unhappy that a child will be declined this year although they might have been invited in years past -- you could look at it as a good think in that FCPS kids are smarter than ever! This improves the regular school discussion level as well.

I wish they would just send out the scores so I can stop being so curious!! Frankly, I'm fine with my kid scoring high enough to be noticed for pull-out services at the regular school rather than being in the pool for the AAP center. But, just tell us what the scores are already!

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Anonymous wrote:The principal of the school that my child attends told me that fairfax is in a pickle with the cogat scores this year. He said there are typically around 1200 students with a score in the 130 range who get into the pool automatically but this year there are around 2200 who would automatically qualify to be in the pool. They strongly suspect that there was a lot of practice testing and coaching leading up to this years test. He is unsure what is going to happen as many don't want to include the cogat score as part of the application because of this. Jury is still out on the whole matter.

There was a poster last year making up rumours like this. As if a principal would be privy to this info . . . as if a principal would tell a parent if s/he did have access to this info.

Told the whole PTA during a meeting. Not everyone is lying.

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Anonymous wrote:The principal of the school that my child attends told me that fairfax is in a pickle with the cogat scores this year. He said there are typically around 1200 students with a score in the 130 range who get into the pool automatically but this year there are around 2200 who would automatically qualify to be in the pool. They strongly suspect that there was a lot of practice testing and coaching leading up to this years test. He is unsure what is going to happen as many don't want to include the cogat score as part of the application because of this. Jury is still out on the whole matter.

There was a poster last year making up rumours like this. As if a principal would be privy to this info . . . as if a principal would tell a parent if s/he did have access to this info.

Thanks for pointing that out. I did have a bit of deja vu there when reading the PP.

Title for new reality TV show: The GBRS of Fairfax County

Well, I do hope they dont consider the scores only. GBRS should be considered more than the scores.
There are test prep centers at every corner. I know atleast 25 kids in our school who went for these prep classes.

Anonymous wrote:The principal of the school that my child attends told me that fairfax is in a pickle with the cogat scores this year. He said there are typically around 1200 students with a score in the 130 range who get into the pool automatically but this year there are around 2200 who would automatically qualify to be in the pool. They strongly suspect that there was a lot of practice testing and coaching leading up to this years test. He is unsure what is going to happen as many don't want to include the cogat score as part of the application because of this. Jury is still out on the whole matter.

There was a poster last year making up rumours like this. As if a principal would be privy to this info . . . as if a principal would tell a parent if s/he did have access to this info.

Maybe they should up the pool score to 140, or require 130 on NNAT and one sub category of the cogAT instead of either/or.

Yes, everyone would freak out, but they can't screen twice as many kids for AAP. It's just not logical.

The principal of the school that my child attends told me that fairfax is in a pickle with the cogat scores this year. He said there are typically around 1200 students with a score in the 130 range who get into the pool automatically but this year there are around 2200 who would automatically qualify to be in the pool. They strongly suspect that there was a lot of practice testing and coaching leading up to this years test. He is unsure what is going to happen as many don't want to include the cogat score as part of the application because of this. Jury is still out on the whole matter.

Anonymous wrote:Scores in teens and still getting in by self referral. Shows how subjective the whole process is.

You are assuming that there are no biases in the scores. We know the scores are biased in favor of 1) kids without anxiety, 2) kids who prepped, etc.

These biases have nothing to do with intelligence. The GBRS has a different set of biases.

It is not like AAP costs anything....and I am serious

Anonymous wrote:Scores in teens and still getting in by self referral. Shows how subjective the whole process is.

CONGRATULATIONS! You must be so proud of your special snowflake.

Scores in teens and still getting in by self referral. Shows how subjective the whole process is.