Anonymous wrote:Finally, for the last three graduating classes at Trinity (354 students in total over 2024, 2025 and 2026), 54 have attended Harvard, Stanford, Princeton or Yale (HYPS), or just over 15% of the class (it has ranged from 12%-18% each year). I didn't include MIT as it's not a popular destination for the NYC privates (Trinity has only sent 2 kids to MIT over the past 4-5 years).

I think that's telling b/c MIT arguably has the most meritocratic admissions policies - no legacy, no donor, and limited recruited athletes, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:The 70/120 at Trinity is excluding those going to very strong but not top schools like Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna, Emory, Georgetown, Haverford, U Michigan, NYU, UVA, etc. If you add those schools, that gets you to 95 of the 110 students that have declared college destinations. The bottom 15 of the class are going to schools including Colby, Lehigh, McGill, Middlebury, Northeastern, Pitzer, St. Andrews, Tufts, Tulane, UT-Austin, and Wesleyan.

Sorry, but that's not the "bottom" 15. I see Syracuse, Colgate, U of Miami, SMU, UMD, Mississippi, Colorado State, Trinity College, and Hamilton, many of which are below your bottom 15 schools. And Haverford, Emory, Michigan, NYU, and UVA are at least on par with, if not below, Tufts, Wesleyan, and Middlebury.

of the schools i have glanced at - The Trinity results are the most below my expectations of what i would have expected. out of the 105 or so kids, at least 25% are going to what i would consider "subpar" schools relative to the Trinity reputation.

anyone have thoughts on why that would be the case?

It’s very weird that a bunch of adults are stalking high school instagram pages for college decisions. The quality of these institutions doesn’t change from year to year. Just because Brearley sent more kids to Harvard this year does not make it objectively better than another school. Next year they will have a different class profile and may get fewer acceptances. Not every kid at Trinity is going to get into an Ivy. Not every kid is going to stand out in a very competitive field. there are also lots of reasons why a kid may choose one school over another. Some kids are looking for fit and some may be going where they get the most money. Also, many of these “lesser than” schools are much more competitive than they were a generation ago and, as a result, I think teenagers today have a more expansive view of what a “good college” is. If you’re sending your kid to one of these schools you should think about whether you’ll think it’s a waste if they end up at Emory or Wake Forest.

I think that’s all that needs to be said. creepiest thread ever.

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Anonymous wrote:The 70/120 at Trinity is excluding those going to very strong but not top schools like Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna, Emory, Georgetown, Haverford, U Michigan, NYU, UVA, etc. If you add those schools, that gets you to 95 of the 110 students that have declared college destinations. The bottom 15 of the class are going to schools including Colby, Lehigh, McGill, Middlebury, Northeastern, Pitzer, St. Andrews, Tufts, Tulane, UT-Austin, and Wesleyan.

Sorry, but that's not the "bottom" 15. I see Syracuse, Colgate, U of Miami, SMU, UMD, Mississippi, Colorado State, Trinity College, and Hamilton, many of which are below your bottom 15 schools. And Haverford, Emory, Michigan, NYU, and UVA are at least on par with, if not below, Tufts, Wesleyan, and Middlebury.

DP, but you have no idea the circumstances of why these people go those schools - for instance SMU Business punches above it’s weight for kids who want a certain type of Greek life and Colorado State is very strong in Wildlife Biology. Kids don’t always choose the highest ranked school they can get into. Belittling kid’s college choices is not a good look.

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Anonymous wrote:The 70/120 at Trinity is excluding those going to very strong but not top schools like Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna, Emory, Georgetown, Haverford, U Michigan, NYU, UVA, etc. If you add those schools, that gets you to 95 of the 110 students that have declared college destinations. The bottom 15 of the class are going to schools including Colby, Lehigh, McGill, Middlebury, Northeastern, Pitzer, St. Andrews, Tufts, Tulane, UT-Austin, and Wesleyan.

Sorry, but that's not the "bottom" 15. I see Syracuse, Colgate, U of Miami, SMU, UMD, Mississippi, Colorado State, Trinity College, and Hamilton, many of which are below your bottom 15 schools. And Haverford, Emory, Michigan, NYU, and UVA are at least on par with, if not below, Tufts, Wesleyan, and Middlebury.

of the schools i have glanced at - The Trinity results are the most below my expectations of what i would have expected. out of the 105 or so kids, at least 25% are going to what i would consider "subpar" schools relative to the Trinity reputation.

anyone have thoughts on why that would be the case?

It’s very weird that a bunch of adults are stalking high school instagram pages for college decisions. The quality of these institutions doesn’t change from year to year. Just because Brearley sent more kids to Harvard this year does not make it objectively better than another school. Next year they will have a different class profile and may get fewer acceptances. Not every kid at Trinity is going to get into an Ivy. Not every kid is going to stand out in a very competitive field. there are also lots of reasons why a kid may choose one school over another. Some kids are looking for fit and some may be going where they get the most money. Also, many of these “lesser than” schools are much more competitive than they were a generation ago and, as a result, I think teenagers today have a more expansive view of what a “good college” is. If you’re sending your kid to one of these schools you should think about whether you’ll think it’s a waste if they end up at Emory or Wake Forest.

My guess would be that because they have probably the strongest sibling/legacy policy of the TT’s there’s a bigger subset of people who may not have otherwise made it through the admissions screening. But admittedly I’m just making that up without supporting data.

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Anonymous wrote:The 70/120 at Trinity is excluding those going to very strong but not top schools like Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna, Emory, Georgetown, Haverford, U Michigan, NYU, UVA, etc. If you add those schools, that gets you to 95 of the 110 students that have declared college destinations. The bottom 15 of the class are going to schools including Colby, Lehigh, McGill, Middlebury, Northeastern, Pitzer, St. Andrews, Tufts, Tulane, UT-Austin, and Wesleyan.

Sorry, but that's not the "bottom" 15. I see Syracuse, Colgate, U of Miami, SMU, UMD, Mississippi, Colorado State, Trinity College, and Hamilton, many of which are below your bottom 15 schools. And Haverford, Emory, Michigan, NYU, and UVA are at least on par with, if not below, Tufts, Wesleyan, and Middlebury.

of the schools i have glanced at - The Trinity results are the most below my expectations of what i would have expected. out of the 105 or so kids, at least 25% are going to what i would consider "subpar" schools relative to the Trinity reputation.

anyone have thoughts on why that would be the case?

Anonymous wrote:The 70/120 at Trinity is excluding those going to very strong but not top schools like Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna, Emory, Georgetown, Haverford, U Michigan, NYU, UVA, etc. If you add those schools, that gets you to 95 of the 110 students that have declared college destinations. The bottom 15 of the class are going to schools including Colby, Lehigh, McGill, Middlebury, Northeastern, Pitzer, St. Andrews, Tufts, Tulane, UT-Austin, and Wesleyan.

Sorry, but that's not the "bottom" 15. I see Syracuse, Colgate, U of Miami, SMU, UMD, Mississippi, Colorado State, Trinity College, and Hamilton, many of which are below your bottom 15 schools. And Haverford, Emory, Michigan, NYU, and UVA are at least on par with, if not below, Tufts, Wesleyan, and Middlebury.

I think it is really dependent on the schools. If you have a kid that's not at the right TT, they sometimes pass them along, and they don't end up excelling whereas they might at a K-8 that was more willing to work with them. Some schools counsel you out fast, but some places do let these kids, often high IQ kids linger in the system for far too long, and they waste their potential by putting them in with a bunch of redshirted kids who don't need the exec skills in kinder and first so the class skips over them. There are kids who would excel in a TT high school if they had not gone to a TT lower.

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Anonymous wrote:Off the top, one Princeton admit is a recruited athlete and one is a prof’s kid. I’m sure more hooks abound. The admissions are impressive but I’m not putting huge stock in them esp wrt a particular university.

Anonymous wrote:At Trinity, so far 8 of 120 graduating seniors have announced they will be attending Princeton (compared to 2 at Horace Mann and 1 at Riverdale). A huge group also going to Columbia, Duke, Chicago and Cornell. Of the 110 kids that have reported college destinations, close to 40 going to Ivies, and close to 70 going to Ivies + Stanford, Duke, Chicago, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Rice, Wash U, Williams, Amherst and Pomona.

It's interesting because the 2025 page is still up on Instagram and it's a similar proportion going Ivy+ but many more to Brown last year and less to Duke vs vice versa this year. Wonder what drives this and how to think about the value of the school in this context. Sounds like it's just as difficult if not more to get into HYPS as a competitive suburban public but far greater likelihood to end up at the next rung of lower Ivies, Duke and UChicago. Would most find this to be an acceptable or even good outcome for all those tuition dollars?

value is an interesting way of looking at it. I think there are thousands of families in NYC who would if given the chance would pay for Trinity. It's not as simple as that to get in.

We have one child at a TT and one at a 2T. The education and general caliber of the students is noticeable difference.

I don’t know any suburban public high school that sends 15% to HYPS. Privates may have hooks but so do top suburban publics. Then the 50%ish to top 20 colleges…

If a kid is going to be in the top 1-5% at a good suburban public school then TT offer no value. Otherwise the value looks pretty clear.

Anonymous wrote:The 70/120 at Trinity is excluding those going to very strong but not top schools like Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna, Emory, Georgetown, Haverford, U Michigan, NYU, UVA, etc. If you add those schools, that gets you to 95 of the 110 students that have declared college destinations. The bottom 15 of the class are going to schools including Colby, Lehigh, McGill, Middlebury, Northeastern, Pitzer, St. Andrews, Tufts, Tulane, UT-Austin, and Wesleyan.

i only see 104 on the page

Anonymous wrote:How are the 2T schools doing?

They are doing very well. The improvement versus the last few years is pretty noticeable.

Anonymous wrote:If 95/110 kids went to schools like those Trinity is sending its senior class too, I would pay the tuition. HYPS might be only 15% of the class, but the next 70% (other than the bottom 15% of the classs!) have great college destinations.

this is our thinking as well. 75-85% of the class at the TT go to great (top 30, including national and small liberal arts) schools. 40-50% of the t2 go to great schools.

If 95/110 kids went to schools like those Trinity is sending its senior class too, I would pay the tuition. HYPS might be only 15% of the class, but the next 70% (other than the bottom 15% of the classs!) have great college destinations.

Finally, for the last three graduating classes at Trinity (354 students in total over 2024, 2025 and 2026), 54 have attended Harvard, Stanford, Princeton or Yale (HYPS), or just over 15% of the class (it has ranged from 12%-18% each year). I didn't include MIT as it's not a popular destination for the NYC privates (Trinity has only sent 2 kids to MIT over the past 4-5 years).