Anonymous wrote:Orchestrated hit job--these are AI generated posts. Read the NYT article; MAGA is terrified of her for the same reasons they are of Massie. She's independent and fearless and isn't afraid of Trump. She told ICE to pound sand after she watched what happened in Minnesota. She's always been a centrist and will continue to be. We need more fearless people to stand up to Trump and his donors.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that she doesn’t understand basic economics. Raising taxes doesn’t work - it just causes wealthy people to move to a lower tax state. See California population outflows…

False
https://www.forbes.com/sites/teresaghilarducci/2025/12/29/do-wealth-taxes-really-make-billionaires-leave/

“Cristobal Young and Charles Varner’s work using New Jersey and California tax data finds near-zero long-run migration elasticities among millionaires. Even after sizable tax increases, the number who leave is small, and the revenue gained from those who stay exceeds the revenue lost from movers.”

VA raising taxes could cause folks to move to DC or Maryland (if that’s where they’d rather be), as VA would no longer be the low-tax option in the DMV.

Why? You’re going to have to show the math on that one.

Traffic sucks. Most people choose their location based on their work location, not minor variations in tax rates.

The current maximum state + local income tax rates in the DMV are as follows:

Virginia: 5.75%
Maryland (6.5%) + Bethesda (3.2%): 9.7%
DC: 10.75%

For persons with $1M of taxable income, they pay $57,500 if they live in Virginia, $97,000 in Maryland, or $107,500 in DC. We absolutely chose to live in Virginia over DC to save the $50k in taxes (as well as to have access to in-state tuition for our kids to VA universities). If Virginia raises taxes to over 10%, we'd just move to DC and be part of the gentrification of DC.

How much do you make? How much of it is over $1m?

We make ~$2.5M HHI.

Using very simple math/accounting:
5.75% => $144k VA tax

If the legislation passes (it's not even out of committee yet BTW):
5.75% + 10% for over $1M => $208k VA tax

Are we going to move over $64k? No. That's less than 3% of our income and a fraction of what we'd pay for realtor fees to sell our house.

In reality, it'd be less than that with various deductions. And if we were going to move, it'd probably be somewhere with even more taxes.


Republican histrionics aren't based in reality.

You do you. I wasn't hypothesizing that someone would move out of Virginia to save taxes. I was hypothesizing that there are plenty of people that WORK in DC, but chose to live in VA for various reasons, one of which might have been lower taxes. I know I made this choice and the tax savings was material enough that I was willing to commute into DC. If VA eliminates the tax savings, those people may chose to move to DC to be closer to work. As someone else noted, commuting sucks.

I was responding to the person who wrote "If Virginia raises taxes to over 10%, we'd just move to DC and be part of the gentrification of DC."

I am that person. For some reason you are missing the point. I work in DC. I would prefer to live in DC but choose to live in VA because the taxes are so much lower. If Virginia takes away the lower taxes, I will just move to DC. I am imagining that there are others in the same position based on anecdotal conversations with co-workers about WHY they chose to live in DC v. Maryland v. Virginia.

So....you would move out of VA to save taxes?

“ "I'm leaving Virginia because of Spanberger's policies" lol oh no who will remain to scream at the workers at Chipotle and drive down everyone else's property values with their ratty ass "let's go brandon" flags they refuse to take down”

@amandasmildtakes

You would do better to listen than to assume anyone with concerns is a MAGA. I voted for Spanberger because she has generally been a moderate. But now I see that she is going to be pretty far to the left along with the state legislature. So tired of going from one extreme to the other. Why does each party do this every time they get power? They think the have a mandate and go too far the other way, alienating independents. Then we flip back to the other side being in charge and that side does the same thing.

This is the problem. 5 minutes of research and anyone would see she is a progressive pretending to be a moderate.

But agree that the constantly swinging pendulum alienates those that want America to follow a more centrist course.

Anonymous wrote:The $15 minimum wage won’t help anyone in Fairfax County because literally the only people making less than that are teenage part time workers and summer lifeguards at neighborhood pools. Not people who need “financial stability to support their families” - this is pretty much just feel-good virtue signaling.

In poorer parts of Virginia, it will depress job creation especially for young people trying to get on the ladder.

I’d be interested in seeing statistics about people making less than $15 right now in Virginia. Where are those jobs? Who is working them? How will the increase to $15 impact these businesses and creation of jobs? How much cost will be transferred onto the customer? Our pool dues will go up. Not a problem for me, but could potentially hit some families on a tight budget. And unnecessary because our pool already has a surplus of teens wanting to work there for 12.77 an hour.

Fortunately, there are likely very few full time adult workers making less than 15 right now, so probably not much impact compared to 20 or 25.

I also voted for a “moderate” am I am sick of the swinging back and forth between extremes. Youngkin, for his faults, was not extreme and seemed to have an understanding of the value of keeping things on an even keel and listening to voters. He did not try and reinvent the wheel, at least where things were already working pretty well. It is too bad that he wasn’t able to distance himself from Trump just a little more.

It is a mistake for Dems in general to engage in the kind of power grabbing they are attempting with the redistricting. We need to fight against the consolidation of power to one political party.

Dem extremism got us Trump. Trump’s extremism will lead to the pendulum swinging back. The swings are becoming too wide and causing too much instability. Rather than power grabbing and instituting your most extreme policies, why not actually listen to opposing views and work to find solutions that the great majority in the middle can live with?

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Anonymous wrote:I think that she doesn’t understand basic economics. Raising taxes doesn’t work - it just causes wealthy people to move to a lower tax state. See California population outflows…

False
https://www.forbes.com/sites/teresaghilarducci/2025/12/29/do-wealth-taxes-really-make-billionaires-leave/

“Cristobal Young and Charles Varner’s work using New Jersey and California tax data finds near-zero long-run migration elasticities among millionaires. Even after sizable tax increases, the number who leave is small, and the revenue gained from those who stay exceeds the revenue lost from movers.”

VA raising taxes could cause folks to move to DC or Maryland (if that’s where they’d rather be), as VA would no longer be the low-tax option in the DMV.

Why? You’re going to have to show the math on that one.

Traffic sucks. Most people choose their location based on their work location, not minor variations in tax rates.

The current maximum state + local income tax rates in the DMV are as follows:

Virginia: 5.75%
Maryland (6.5%) + Bethesda (3.2%): 9.7%
DC: 10.75%

For persons with $1M of taxable income, they pay $57,500 if they live in Virginia, $97,000 in Maryland, or $107,500 in DC. We absolutely chose to live in Virginia over DC to save the $50k in taxes (as well as to have access to in-state tuition for our kids to VA universities). If Virginia raises taxes to over 10%, we'd just move to DC and be part of the gentrification of DC.

How much do you make? How much of it is over $1m?

We make ~$2.5M HHI.

Using very simple math/accounting:
5.75% => $144k VA tax

If the legislation passes (it's not even out of committee yet BTW):
5.75% + 10% for over $1M => $208k VA tax

Are we going to move over $64k? No. That's less than 3% of our income and a fraction of what we'd pay for realtor fees to sell our house.

In reality, it'd be less than that with various deductions. And if we were going to move, it'd probably be somewhere with even more taxes.


Republican histrionics aren't based in reality.

You do you. I wasn't hypothesizing that someone would move out of Virginia to save taxes. I was hypothesizing that there are plenty of people that WORK in DC, but chose to live in VA for various reasons, one of which might have been lower taxes. I know I made this choice and the tax savings was material enough that I was willing to commute into DC. If VA eliminates the tax savings, those people may chose to move to DC to be closer to work. As someone else noted, commuting sucks.

I was responding to the person who wrote "If Virginia raises taxes to over 10%, we'd just move to DC and be part of the gentrification of DC."

I am that person. For some reason you are missing the point. I work in DC. I would prefer to live in DC but choose to live in VA because the taxes are so much lower. If Virginia takes away the lower taxes, I will just move to DC. I am imagining that there are others in the same position based on anecdotal conversations with co-workers about WHY they chose to live in DC v. Maryland v. Virginia.

So....you would move out of VA to save taxes?

“ "I'm leaving Virginia because of Spanberger's policies" lol oh no who will remain to scream at the workers at Chipotle and drive down everyone else's property values with their ratty ass "let's go brandon" flags they refuse to take down”

@amandasmildtakes

You would do better to listen than to assume anyone with concerns is a MAGA. I voted for Spanberger because she has generally been a moderate. But now I see that she is going to be pretty far to the left along with the state legislature. So tired of going from one extreme to the other. Why does each party do this every time they get power? They think the have a mandate and go too far the other way, alienating independents. Then we flip back to the other side being in charge and that side does the same thing.

100% this. I also voted for her, thinking she was a moderate. I certainly didn’t think she would be raising our taxes.

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“ "I'm leaving Virginia because of Spanberger's policies" lol oh no who will remain to scream at the workers at Chipotle and drive down everyone else's property values with their ratty ass "let's go brandon" flags they refuse to take down”

@amandasmildtakes

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Anonymous wrote:I think that she doesn’t understand basic economics. Raising taxes doesn’t work - it just causes wealthy people to move to a lower tax state. See California population outflows…

False
https://www.forbes.com/sites/teresaghilarducci/2025/12/29/do-wealth-taxes-really-make-billionaires-leave/

“Cristobal Young and Charles Varner’s work using New Jersey and California tax data finds near-zero long-run migration elasticities among millionaires. Even after sizable tax increases, the number who leave is small, and the revenue gained from those who stay exceeds the revenue lost from movers.”

VA raising taxes could cause folks to move to DC or Maryland (if that’s where they’d rather be), as VA would no longer be the low-tax option in the DMV.

Why? You’re going to have to show the math on that one.

Traffic sucks. Most people choose their location based on their work location, not minor variations in tax rates.

The current maximum state + local income tax rates in the DMV are as follows:

Virginia: 5.75%
Maryland (6.5%) + Bethesda (3.2%): 9.7%
DC: 10.75%

For persons with $1M of taxable income, they pay $57,500 if they live in Virginia, $97,000 in Maryland, or $107,500 in DC. We absolutely chose to live in Virginia over DC to save the $50k in taxes (as well as to have access to in-state tuition for our kids to VA universities). If Virginia raises taxes to over 10%, we'd just move to DC and be part of the gentrification of DC.

How much do you make? How much of it is over $1m?

We make ~$2.5M HHI.

Using very simple math/accounting:
5.75% => $144k VA tax

If the legislation passes (it's not even out of committee yet BTW):
5.75% + 10% for over $1M => $208k VA tax

Are we going to move over $64k? No. That's less than 3% of our income and a fraction of what we'd pay for realtor fees to sell our house.

In reality, it'd be less than that with various deductions. And if we were going to move, it'd probably be somewhere with even more taxes.


Republican histrionics aren't based in reality.

You do you. I wasn't hypothesizing that someone would move out of Virginia to save taxes. I was hypothesizing that there are plenty of people that WORK in DC, but chose to live in VA for various reasons, one of which might have been lower taxes. I know I made this choice and the tax savings was material enough that I was willing to commute into DC. If VA eliminates the tax savings, those people may chose to move to DC to be closer to work. As someone else noted, commuting sucks.

I was responding to the person who wrote "If Virginia raises taxes to over 10%, we'd just move to DC and be part of the gentrification of DC."

I am that person. For some reason you are missing the point. I work in DC. I would prefer to live in DC but choose to live in VA because the taxes are so much lower. If Virginia takes away the lower taxes, I will just move to DC. I am imagining that there are others in the same position based on anecdotal conversations with co-workers about WHY they chose to live in DC v. Maryland v. Virginia.

So....you would move out of VA to save taxes?

“ "I'm leaving Virginia because of Spanberger's policies" lol oh no who will remain to scream at the workers at Chipotle and drive down everyone else's property values with their ratty ass "let's go brandon" flags they refuse to take down”

@amandasmildtakes

You would do better to listen than to assume anyone with concerns is a MAGA. I voted for Spanberger because she has generally been a moderate. But now I see that she is going to be pretty far to the left along with the state legislature. So tired of going from one extreme to the other. Why does each party do this every time they get power? They think the have a mandate and go too far the other way, alienating independents. Then we flip back to the other side being in charge and that side does the same thing.

100% this. I also voted for her, thinking she was a moderate. I certainly didn’t think she would be raising our taxes.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that she doesn’t understand basic economics. Raising taxes doesn’t work - it just causes wealthy people to move to a lower tax state. See California population outflows…

False
https://www.forbes.com/sites/teresaghilarducci/2025/12/29/do-wealth-taxes-really-make-billionaires-leave/

“Cristobal Young and Charles Varner’s work using New Jersey and California tax data finds near-zero long-run migration elasticities among millionaires. Even after sizable tax increases, the number who leave is small, and the revenue gained from those who stay exceeds the revenue lost from movers.”

VA raising taxes could cause folks to move to DC or Maryland (if that’s where they’d rather be), as VA would no longer be the low-tax option in the DMV.

Why? You’re going to have to show the math on that one.

Traffic sucks. Most people choose their location based on their work location, not minor variations in tax rates.

The current maximum state + local income tax rates in the DMV are as follows:

Virginia: 5.75%
Maryland (6.5%) + Bethesda (3.2%): 9.7%
DC: 10.75%

For persons with $1M of taxable income, they pay $57,500 if they live in Virginia, $97,000 in Maryland, or $107,500 in DC. We absolutely chose to live in Virginia over DC to save the $50k in taxes (as well as to have access to in-state tuition for our kids to VA universities). If Virginia raises taxes to over 10%, we'd just move to DC and be part of the gentrification of DC.

How much do you make? How much of it is over $1m?

We make ~$2.5M HHI.

Using very simple math/accounting:
5.75% => $144k VA tax

If the legislation passes (it's not even out of committee yet BTW):
5.75% + 10% for over $1M => $208k VA tax

Are we going to move over $64k? No. That's less than 3% of our income and a fraction of what we'd pay for realtor fees to sell our house.

In reality, it'd be less than that with various deductions. And if we were going to move, it'd probably be somewhere with even more taxes.


Republican histrionics aren't based in reality.

You do you. I wasn't hypothesizing that someone would move out of Virginia to save taxes. I was hypothesizing that there are plenty of people that WORK in DC, but chose to live in VA for various reasons, one of which might have been lower taxes. I know I made this choice and the tax savings was material enough that I was willing to commute into DC. If VA eliminates the tax savings, those people may chose to move to DC to be closer to work. As someone else noted, commuting sucks.

I was responding to the person who wrote "If Virginia raises taxes to over 10%, we'd just move to DC and be part of the gentrification of DC."

I am that person. For some reason you are missing the point. I work in DC. I would prefer to live in DC but choose to live in VA because the taxes are so much lower. If Virginia takes away the lower taxes, I will just move to DC. I am imagining that there are others in the same position based on anecdotal conversations with co-workers about WHY they chose to live in DC v. Maryland v. Virginia.

So....you would move out of VA to save taxes?

“ "I'm leaving Virginia because of Spanberger's policies" lol oh no who will remain to scream at the workers at Chipotle and drive down everyone else's property values with their ratty ass "let's go brandon" flags they refuse to take down”

@amandasmildtakes

You would do better to listen than to assume anyone with concerns is a MAGA. I voted for Spanberger because she has generally been a moderate. But now I see that she is going to be pretty far to the left along with the state legislature. So tired of going from one extreme to the other. Why does each party do this every time they get power? They think the have a mandate and go too far the other way, alienating independents. Then we flip back to the other side being in charge and that side does the same thing.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that she doesn’t understand basic economics. Raising taxes doesn’t work - it just causes wealthy people to move to a lower tax state. See California population outflows…

False
https://www.forbes.com/sites/teresaghilarducci/2025/12/29/do-wealth-taxes-really-make-billionaires-leave/

“Cristobal Young and Charles Varner’s work using New Jersey and California tax data finds near-zero long-run migration elasticities among millionaires. Even after sizable tax increases, the number who leave is small, and the revenue gained from those who stay exceeds the revenue lost from movers.”

VA raising taxes could cause folks to move to DC or Maryland (if that’s where they’d rather be), as VA would no longer be the low-tax option in the DMV.

Why? You’re going to have to show the math on that one.

Traffic sucks. Most people choose their location based on their work location, not minor variations in tax rates.

The current maximum state + local income tax rates in the DMV are as follows:

Virginia: 5.75%
Maryland (6.5%) + Bethesda (3.2%): 9.7%
DC: 10.75%

For persons with $1M of taxable income, they pay $57,500 if they live in Virginia, $97,000 in Maryland, or $107,500 in DC. We absolutely chose to live in Virginia over DC to save the $50k in taxes (as well as to have access to in-state tuition for our kids to VA universities). If Virginia raises taxes to over 10%, we'd just move to DC and be part of the gentrification of DC.

How much do you make? How much of it is over $1m?

We make ~$2.5M HHI.

Using very simple math/accounting:
5.75% => $144k VA tax

If the legislation passes (it's not even out of committee yet BTW):
5.75% + 10% for over $1M => $208k VA tax

Are we going to move over $64k? No. That's less than 3% of our income and a fraction of what we'd pay for realtor fees to sell our house.

In reality, it'd be less than that with various deductions. And if we were going to move, it'd probably be somewhere with even more taxes.


Republican histrionics aren't based in reality.

You do you. I wasn't hypothesizing that someone would move out of Virginia to save taxes. I was hypothesizing that there are plenty of people that WORK in DC, but chose to live in VA for various reasons, one of which might have been lower taxes. I know I made this choice and the tax savings was material enough that I was willing to commute into DC. If VA eliminates the tax savings, those people may chose to move to DC to be closer to work. As someone else noted, commuting sucks.

I was responding to the person who wrote "If Virginia raises taxes to over 10%, we'd just move to DC and be part of the gentrification of DC."

I am that person. For some reason you are missing the point. I work in DC. I would prefer to live in DC but choose to live in VA because the taxes are so much lower. If Virginia takes away the lower taxes, I will just move to DC. I am imagining that there are others in the same position based on anecdotal conversations with co-workers about WHY they chose to live in DC v. Maryland v. Virginia.

So....you would move out of VA to save taxes?

“ "I'm leaving Virginia because of Spanberger's policies" lol oh no who will remain to scream at the workers at Chipotle and drive down everyone else's property values with their ratty ass "let's go brandon" flags they refuse to take down”

@amandasmildtakes

You would do better to listen than to assume anyone with concerns is a MAGA. I voted for Spanberger because she has generally been a moderate. But now I see that she is going to be pretty far to the left along with the state legislature. So tired of going from one extreme to the other. Why does each party do this every time they get power? They think the have a mandate and go too far the other way, alienating independents. Then we flip back to the other side being in charge and that side does the same thing.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that she doesn’t understand basic economics. Raising taxes doesn’t work - it just causes wealthy people to move to a lower tax state. See California population outflows…

False
https://www.forbes.com/sites/teresaghilarducci/2025/12/29/do-wealth-taxes-really-make-billionaires-leave/

“Cristobal Young and Charles Varner’s work using New Jersey and California tax data finds near-zero long-run migration elasticities among millionaires. Even after sizable tax increases, the number who leave is small, and the revenue gained from those who stay exceeds the revenue lost from movers.”

VA raising taxes could cause folks to move to DC or Maryland (if that’s where they’d rather be), as VA would no longer be the low-tax option in the DMV.

Why? You’re going to have to show the math on that one.

Traffic sucks. Most people choose their location based on their work location, not minor variations in tax rates.

The current maximum state + local income tax rates in the DMV are as follows:

Virginia: 5.75%
Maryland (6.5%) + Bethesda (3.2%): 9.7%
DC: 10.75%

For persons with $1M of taxable income, they pay $57,500 if they live in Virginia, $97,000 in Maryland, or $107,500 in DC. We absolutely chose to live in Virginia over DC to save the $50k in taxes (as well as to have access to in-state tuition for our kids to VA universities). If Virginia raises taxes to over 10%, we'd just move to DC and be part of the gentrification of DC.

How much do you make? How much of it is over $1m?

We make ~$2.5M HHI.

Using very simple math/accounting:
5.75% => $144k VA tax

If the legislation passes (it's not even out of committee yet BTW):
5.75% + 10% for over $1M => $208k VA tax

Are we going to move over $64k? No. That's less than 3% of our income and a fraction of what we'd pay for realtor fees to sell our house.

In reality, it'd be less than that with various deductions. And if we were going to move, it'd probably be somewhere with even more taxes.


Republican histrionics aren't based in reality.

You do you. I wasn't hypothesizing that someone would move out of Virginia to save taxes. I was hypothesizing that there are plenty of people that WORK in DC, but chose to live in VA for various reasons, one of which might have been lower taxes. I know I made this choice and the tax savings was material enough that I was willing to commute into DC. If VA eliminates the tax savings, those people may chose to move to DC to be closer to work. As someone else noted, commuting sucks.

I was responding to the person who wrote "If Virginia raises taxes to over 10%, we'd just move to DC and be part of the gentrification of DC."

I am that person. For some reason you are missing the point. I work in DC. I would prefer to live in DC but choose to live in VA because the taxes are so much lower. If Virginia takes away the lower taxes, I will just move to DC. I am imagining that there are others in the same position based on anecdotal conversations with co-workers about WHY they chose to live in DC v. Maryland v. Virginia.

So....you would move out of VA to save taxes?

“ "I'm leaving Virginia because of Spanberger's policies" lol oh no who will remain to scream at the workers at Chipotle and drive down everyone else's property values with their ratty ass "let's go brandon" flags they refuse to take down”

@amandasmildtakes

You would do better to listen than to assume anyone with concerns is a MAGA. I voted for Spanberger because she has generally been a moderate. But now I see that she is going to be pretty far to the left along with the state legislature. So tired of going from one extreme to the other. Why does each party do this every time they get power? They think the have a mandate and go too far the other way, alienating independents. Then we flip back to the other side being in charge and that side does the same thing.