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Anonymous wrote:Kid had 1580 SAT/36 ACT.
Salutatorian. Private HS in Texas. Basically maxed out GPA with 10 APs at 5.

Great ECs.

Denied at H,P,S
Accepted Vandy, Duke and Oxford.

This is crazy. Harvard, Princeton, Stanford is such a crap shoot even with these stats….so frustrating.
Where is you kid going between Vandy, Duke and Oxford?

None of this is crazy. This person could’ve gotten rejected more than a decade ago. Just having a good score isn’t unique- a lot of people have good scores with course rigor.

+1 Parents don't grasp this until their kid experiences it themselves. These schools are rejecting 95 out of every 100 applicants (it is actually probably more like rejecting 97/98 out 100 if you take out the spots that are essentially reserved for athletes, kids of donors/legacy and questbridge). Your outstanding kid is competing with literally thousands of other equally qualified students for a couple of spots.

Im the parent of the kid denied at H,P and S and accepted to Vandy, Duke and Oxford.
The frustrating part for him is that little sister just got in Stanford, same major, worst stats. 1550/35 top 3% but not salutatorian and quite frankly, worse ECs than her brother.

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Anonymous wrote:Kid had 1580 SAT/36 ACT.
Salutatorian. Private HS in Texas. Basically maxed out GPA with 10 APs at 5.

Great ECs.

Denied at H,P,S
Accepted Vandy, Duke and Oxford.

This is crazy. Harvard, Princeton, Stanford is such a crap shoot even with these stats….so frustrating.
Where is you kid going between Vandy, Duke and Oxford?

None of this is crazy. This person could’ve gotten rejected more than a decade ago. Just having a good score isn’t unique- a lot of people have good scores with course rigor.

+1 Parents don't grasp this until their kid experiences it themselves. These schools are rejecting 95 out of every 100 applicants (it is actually probably more like rejecting 97/98 out 100 if you take out the spots that are essentially reserved for athletes, kids of donors/legacy and questbridge). Your outstanding kid is competing with literally thousands of other equally qualified students for a couple of spots.

Anonymous wrote:4.4 GPA, 35 ACT, white unhooked female at private college prep school; STEM major; one National Level EC that wasn't crazy; she ED'd to Rice and was accepted. Rice was her first choice and being unhooked, we figured that was her best bet.

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Anonymous wrote:3.94, 1580 (first try), took highest rigor advanced classes, good internship and non profit involvement, lots of school related leadership roles and submitted research. No national awards or APs.

Rejected. Upenn ED1 , uva

Accepted to targets: nyu, pitt, umd, case western and usc

Attending NYU, business

Wharton?

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Anonymous wrote:this thread is hella depressing. what's the point of racking up all these stats?

or are we all just obsessing over the wrong list of schools?

like there's no hope for me fr.

Pick a different major. Computer science, engineering, business will generally all lead to these outcomes.

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Anonymous wrote:Kid had 1580 SAT/36 ACT.
Salutatorian. Private HS in Texas. Basically maxed out GPA with 10 APs at 5.

Great ECs.

Denied at H,P,S
Accepted Vandy, Duke and Oxford.

This is crazy. Harvard, Princeton, Stanford is such a crap shoot even with these stats….so frustrating.
Where is you kid going between Vandy, Duke and Oxford?

None of this is crazy. This person could’ve gotten rejected more than a decade ago. Just having a good score isn’t unique- a lot of people have good scores with course rigor.

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Anonymous wrote:The smartest thing colleges could do, financially speaking, is admit whip-smart, hard-working CS and engineering majors. These are the kids who have the best odds of striking it rich and having something to give back to the college 20 or 40 years down the road. They are also more likely to contribute to society with patents, innovation, technological advance, improved productivity, etc. Colleges are short-sighted to not woo them.

Top legal and finance kids typically earn far more than engineering/cs kids. But, your strategy would push the average earnings number up a lot.

The top finance kids ARE the top CS kids and legal requires an extra degree where stem majors still make more than non-stem majors, frequently by a lot.

Umm. No. I work at a top Wall Street bank and we don’t hire CS kids for finance roles. Sorry.

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Anonymous wrote:The smartest thing colleges could do, financially speaking, is admit whip-smart, hard-working CS and engineering majors. These are the kids who have the best odds of striking it rich and having something to give back to the college 20 or 40 years down the road. They are also more likely to contribute to society with patents, innovation, technological advance, improved productivity, etc. Colleges are short-sighted to not woo them.

Top legal and finance kids typically earn far more than engineering/cs kids. But, your strategy would push the average earnings number up a lot.

The top finance kids ARE the top CS kids and legal requires an extra degree where stem majors still make more than non-stem majors, frequently by a lot.

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Anonymous wrote:Kid had 1580 SAT/36 ACT.
Salutatorian. Private HS in Texas. Basically maxed out GPA with 10 APs at 5.

Great ECs.

Denied at H,P,S
Accepted Vandy, Duke and Oxford.

This is crazy. Harvard, Princeton, Stanford is such a crap shoot even with these stats….so frustrating.
Where is you kid going between Vandy, Duke and Oxford?

Anonymous wrote:Kid had 1580 SAT/36 ACT.
Salutatorian. Private HS in Texas. Basically maxed out GPA with 10 APs at 5.

Great ECs.

Denied at H,P,S
Accepted Vandy, Duke and Oxford.

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Anonymous wrote:How about this for a reality check:

4.0 UW, 4.86 W
1560 SAT, 13 AP 8 5s, 5 4s (non-STEM), AP Calc BC 10th grade, through MVC and Linear algebra
4 year varsity athlete
national CS awards
part time job

Rejected: Carnegie Mellon, Northwestern, Brown
WL: Cornell, Northeastern, Case Western
Accepted: UMD, RIT, RPI

CS major
MCPS Magnet
At UMD on scholarship

Did he draw swastika in the margins of his essays or something? WTF?
4.86 barely seems possible unless you took a bunch of high school courses before high school.

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Anonymous wrote:The smartest thing colleges could do, financially speaking, is admit whip-smart, hard-working CS and engineering majors. These are the kids who have the best odds of striking it rich and having something to give back to the college 20 or 40 years down the road. They are also more likely to contribute to society with patents, innovation, technological advance, improved productivity, etc. Colleges are short-sighted to not woo them.

Do you think life is better with SM? I don't. What is Bezos giving back? Elon Musk? IMO, the tech bros are actually destroying society and our country.