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Anonymous wrote:A legitimate gun club would allow your DH to keep the weapon there.

Wait… This is really out of the blue, and seems odd. I have been following this thread but haven’t chimed in, but now I really want to know more about what you mean.

DH and I have shot all the shotgun sports (skeet, sporting clays and trap) for years. I have never heard of anything like this.

Exactly which gun club are you talking about?

Also my Syren would cost about $5k to replace and hubbie’s Kolar would be >$15k. Why in the world would we ever want them out of our possession. What gun club would want to assume that liability.

Please fill us all in with your expert knowledge and experience in the world of shooting sports.

Not the pp you're responding to, because they're an ignorant, paranoid person. Seconding what you said, because this isn't how guns/gun ownership works. It's literally the stupidest possible idea. What benefit would there be to any business taking responsibility for multiple owners' likely multiple firearms? The liability would be unreal.

This is what anti-gun nuts think is a solution, but it's just a dozen new problems waiting to happen.

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Anonymous wrote:^ This. The myth of a normal person just snapping is truly a myth. The vast majority of homicides are committed by a tiny percentage of highly aberrant people with a long history of highly aberrant behavior. And almost all of those data points are clustered in inner city ghettos.

Antigun people who have that irrational fear of weapons are the ones projecting their mental illnesses and violent thoughts onto everyone else.

Typical antigun nut thinks everyone is deranged as them and that everyone must be disarmed.

But isn't it funny how they never seem to want to disarm the police and military or governments. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm!

Such an odd conclusion. I think we all agree that people with extensive training defending the public are different from all the random people owning guns.

I think we should adopt the Swiss philosophy. Every household is required to have a military rifle after receiving extensive training (and annual continuing training) and anyone that uses that weapon outside of self-defense or repelling invasion (why this law exists since no real standing army) receives harsh punishment.

Swiss government also provides a super hi-tech fun safe which keeps a record of every time the safe is opened.

So…it fulfills the right wing dream of everyone owning a gun (but imagine the outrage if that dream includes common sense rules around it).

You really do not know what you are talking about.
And no, USA doesn't need to be as restrictive as Switzerland, which has extensive draconian laws.

I stated a fact about how the Swiss handle guns…but I don’t know what I am talking about?

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Anonymous wrote:^ This. The myth of a normal person just snapping is truly a myth. The vast majority of homicides are committed by a tiny percentage of highly aberrant people with a long history of highly aberrant behavior. And almost all of those data points are clustered in inner city ghettos.

Antigun people who have that irrational fear of weapons are the ones projecting their mental illnesses and violent thoughts onto everyone else.

Typical antigun nut thinks everyone is deranged as them and that everyone must be disarmed.

But isn't it funny how they never seem to want to disarm the police and military or governments. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm!

Such an odd conclusion. I think we all agree that people with extensive training defending the public are different from all the random people owning guns.

I think we should adopt the Swiss philosophy. Every household is required to have a military rifle after receiving extensive training (and annual continuing training) and anyone that uses that weapon outside of self-defense or repelling invasion (why this law exists since no real standing army) receives harsh punishment.

Swiss government also provides a super hi-tech fun safe which keeps a record of every time the safe is opened.

So…it fulfills the right wing dream of everyone owning a gun (but imagine the outrage if that dream includes common sense rules around it).

You really do not know what you are talking about.
And no, USA doesn't need to be as restrictive as Switzerland, which has extensive draconian laws.

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Anonymous wrote:A legitimate gun club would allow your DH to keep the weapon there.

Wait… This is really out of the blue, and seems odd. I have been following this thread but haven’t chimed in, but now I really want to know more about what you mean.

DH and I have shot all the shotgun sports (skeet, sporting clays and trap) for years. I have never heard of anything like this.

Exactly which gun club are you talking about?

Also my Syren would cost about $5k to replace and hubbie’s Kolar would be >$15k. Why in the world would we ever want them out of our possession. What gun club would want to assume that liability.

Please fill us all in with your expert knowledge and experience in the world of shooting sports.

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Anonymous wrote:^ This. The myth of a normal person just snapping is truly a myth. The vast majority of homicides are committed by a tiny percentage of highly aberrant people with a long history of highly aberrant behavior. And almost all of those data points are clustered in inner city ghettos.

Antigun people who have that irrational fear of weapons are the ones projecting their mental illnesses and violent thoughts onto everyone else.

Typical antigun nut thinks everyone is deranged as them and that everyone must be disarmed.

But isn't it funny how they never seem to want to disarm the police and military or governments. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm!

Such an odd conclusion. I think we all agree that people with extensive training defending the public are different from all the random people owning guns.

I think we should adopt the Swiss philosophy. Every household is required to have a military rifle after receiving extensive training (and annual continuing training) and anyone that uses that weapon outside of self-defense or repelling invasion (why this law exists since no real standing army) receives harsh punishment.

Swiss government also provides a super hi-tech fun safe which keeps a record of every time the safe is opened.

So…it fulfills the right wing dream of everyone owning a gun (but imagine the outrage if that dream includes common sense rules around it).

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Anonymous wrote:That would be a hard no for be:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3085447/

Same. When I was 19 I went through an awful depressive episode that I would’ve absolutely ended if I had access to a firearm. Guns are FAR more likely to be used in suicide than in protection.

That has to be the most ridiculous thing said on this forum in ages.

Guns are used over 1.2 to 2 million times a year in the USA alone for self defense. Most don't have to fire a shot, simply the presence of it stops the altercation or attack.

There are around 20,000 suicides by firearm a year in the USA.

1.5 million > 20,000 by a huge margin.

You're figures are bulls*** and you know it.
Give a cite if you aren't just trolling with your stupidity.

You are 600 times more likely to be killed by a doctor or medical error than a firearm in the US. That's across the board stats including everyone, even gang members, police, etc.

But you cannot avoid interacting with the health care system. We should be able go avoid guns.

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Anonymous wrote:^ This. The myth of a normal person just snapping is truly a myth. The vast majority of homicides are committed by a tiny percentage of highly aberrant people with a long history of highly aberrant behavior. And almost all of those data points are clustered in inner city ghettos.

Antigun people who have that irrational fear of weapons are the ones projecting their mental illnesses and violent thoughts onto everyone else.

Typical antigun nut thinks everyone is deranged as them and that everyone must be disarmed.

But isn't it funny how they never seem to want to disarm the police and military or governments. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm!

Such an odd conclusion. I think we all agree that people with extensive training defending the public are different from all the random people owning guns.

I think we should adopt the Swiss philosophy. Every household is required to have a military rifle after receiving extensive training (and annual continuing training) and anyone that uses that weapon outside of self-defense or repelling invasion (why this law exists since no real standing army) receives harsh punishment.

Swiss government also provides a super hi-tech fun safe which keeps a record of every time the safe is opened.

So…it fulfills the right wing dream of everyone owning a gun (but imagine the outrage if that dream includes common sense rules around it).

If you think that most police and military personnel have “extensive training defending the public,” you don’t know much about police or military training standards.

Anonymous wrote:A legitimate gun club would allow your DH to keep the weapon there.

Anonymous wrote:“I think we should adopt the Swiss philosophy.”

The Swiss philosophy works for the Swiss. But Americans are not Swiss. Won’t work here.

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Anonymous wrote:^ This. The myth of a normal person just snapping is truly a myth. The vast majority of homicides are committed by a tiny percentage of highly aberrant people with a long history of highly aberrant behavior. And almost all of those data points are clustered in inner city ghettos.

Antigun people who have that irrational fear of weapons are the ones projecting their mental illnesses and violent thoughts onto everyone else.

Typical antigun nut thinks everyone is deranged as them and that everyone must be disarmed.

But isn't it funny how they never seem to want to disarm the police and military or governments. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm!

Such an odd conclusion. I think we all agree that people with extensive training defending the public are different from all the random people owning guns.

I think we should adopt the Swiss philosophy. Every household is required to have a military rifle after receiving extensive training (and annual continuing training) and anyone that uses that weapon outside of self-defense or repelling invasion (why this law exists since no real standing army) receives harsh punishment.

Swiss government also provides a super hi-tech fun safe which keeps a record of every time the safe is opened.

So…it fulfills the right wing dream of everyone owning a gun (but imagine the outrage if that dream includes common sense rules around it).

If you think that most police and military personnel have “extensive training defending the public,” you don’t know much about police or military training standards.

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Anonymous wrote:^ This. The myth of a normal person just snapping is truly a myth. The vast majority of homicides are committed by a tiny percentage of highly aberrant people with a long history of highly aberrant behavior. And almost all of those data points are clustered in inner city ghettos.

Antigun people who have that irrational fear of weapons are the ones projecting their mental illnesses and violent thoughts onto everyone else.

Typical antigun nut thinks everyone is deranged as them and that everyone must be disarmed.

But isn't it funny how they never seem to want to disarm the police and military or governments. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm!

Such an odd conclusion. I think we all agree that people with extensive training defending the public are different from all the random people owning guns.

I think we should adopt the Swiss philosophy. Every household is required to have a military rifle after receiving extensive training (and annual continuing training) and anyone that uses that weapon outside of self-defense or repelling invasion (why this law exists since no real standing army) receives harsh punishment.

Swiss government also provides a super hi-tech fun safe which keeps a record of every time the safe is opened.

So…it fulfills the right wing dream of everyone owning a gun (but imagine the outrage if that dream includes common sense rules around it).

Anonymous wrote:A legitimate gun club would allow your DH to keep the weapon there.

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Anonymous wrote:He's taken up shooting as a hobby in the past few months and recently decided to purchase a gun. He came home with it without discussion. We have elementary age kids, and I just don't want it in the house. He doesn't care, says it's for his hobby and he'll keep it locked up. Am I unreasonable? Is he?

He's unreasonable, not you. Tell him that he has 1 day to get rid of the gun or he can move out.

He could just as easily say "You have one day to accept it, or you can move out."

This. Some of these controlling women are telling on themselves, acting they they have the right to dictate how it's gonna be for their household, which simultaneously whining that "he should've communicated!!!"

I foresee a lot of divorces.

Exactly. The “he should’ve communicated and not acted unilaterally” is a proxy for “he should have communicated so I could have acted unilaterally”