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Anonymous wrote:Normally the P would speak to the student's parents then maybe initiate a suspension and it's done. Instead, Jawando and other activists are using as it as an excuse to smear a school that's academically succeeding while the majority of MCPS schools are in decline. All I know is that this is the same pattern I've seen these past few years. Something will happen at an academically successful MCPS school and some outside agitator looking to make a name for themselves will blow it out of proportion. I think it was the Churchill incident that got quietly dropped because the student who wrote on the desk was black himself? The Wheaton incident was the murder, but I think that was dropped when it turned out it was the foster home kid that did it from the foster home that MCPS zoned into the school. Now it's Wootton under fire for a print job, a desk scribble and someone yelling from a car? Yet not a peep about the student charged with attempted murder at Blair? Seriously? Wootton is the most serious incident in MCPS?

Mark my words - this is the excuse certain anti-asian racist adults will use to deliberately discriminate against a top MCPS school with a large white and asian population. This is how the County will justify not removing the asbesdos from the school, ignoring the possiblity of future cancer. This is the excuse the county will use the next time a ceiling tile falls in the middle of class. This is how the Wootten kids have their school's funding taking away for programs. It is so clear what is happening here.

Half of the BOE was cleaned out, but it's not enough. Jawando needs to be voted out and the members of the BOE and Central Office fired.

Elevating and calling out real examples of anti-Blackness is somehow actually anti-Asian? Make it make sense.

Moreover, this only made the news because the principal failed to follow protocol. Not sure how that fits into the conspiracy theories and persecution complex.

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Anonymous wrote:Normally the P would speak to the student's parents then maybe initiate a suspension and it's done. Instead, Jawando and other activists are using as it as an excuse to smear a school that's academically succeeding while the majority of MCPS schools are in decline. All I know is that this is the same pattern I've seen these past few years. Something will happen at an academically successful MCPS school and some outside agitator looking to make a name for themselves will blow it out of proportion. I think it was the Churchill incident that got quietly dropped because the student who wrote on the desk was black himself? The Wheaton incident was the murder, but I think that was dropped when it turned out it was the foster home kid that did it from the foster home that MCPS zoned into the school. Now it's Wootton under fire for a print job, a desk scribble and someone yelling from a car? Yet not a peep about the student charged with attempted murder at Blair? Seriously? Wootton is the most serious incident in MCPS?

Mark my words - this is the excuse certain anti-asian racist adults will use to deliberately discriminate against a top MCPS school with a large white and asian population. This is how the County will justify not removing the asbesdos from the school, ignoring the possiblity of future cancer. This is the excuse the county will use the next time a ceiling tile falls in the middle of class. This is how the Wootten kids have their school's funding taking away for programs. It is so clear what is happening here.

Half of the BOE was cleaned out, but it's not enough. Jawando needs to be voted out and the members of the BOE and Central Office fired.

Elevating and calling out real examples of anti-Blackness is somehow actually anti-Asian? Make it make sense.

Moreover, this only made the news because the principal failed to follow protocol. Not sure how that fits into the conspiracy theories and persecution complex.

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Anonymous wrote:Normally the P would speak to the student's parents then maybe initiate a suspension and it's done. Instead, Jawando and other activists are using as it as an excuse to smear a school that's academically succeeding while the majority of MCPS schools are in decline. All I know is that this is the same pattern I've seen these past few years. Something will happen at an academically successful MCPS school and some outside agitator looking to make a name for themselves will blow it out of proportion. I think it was the Churchill incident that got quietly dropped because the student who wrote on the desk was black himself? The Wheaton incident was the murder, but I think that was dropped when it turned out it was the foster home kid that did it from the foster home that MCPS zoned into the school. Now it's Wootton under fire for a print job, a desk scribble and someone yelling from a car? Yet not a peep about the student charged with attempted murder at Blair? Seriously? Wootton is the most serious incident in MCPS?

Mark my words - this is the excuse certain anti-asian racist adults will use to deliberately discriminate against a top MCPS school with a large white and asian population. This is how the County will justify not removing the asbesdos from the school, ignoring the possiblity of future cancer. This is the excuse the county will use the next time a ceiling tile falls in the middle of class. This is how the Wootten kids have their school's funding taking away for programs. It is so clear what is happening here.

Half of the BOE was cleaned out, but it's not enough. Jawando needs to be voted out and the members of the BOE and Central Office fired.

Elevating and calling out real examples of anti-Blackness is somehow actually anti-Asian? Make it make sense.

Anonymous wrote:Normally the P would speak to the student's parents then maybe initiate a suspension and it's done. Instead, Jawando and other activists are using as it as an excuse to smear a school that's academically succeeding while the majority of MCPS schools are in decline. All I know is that this is the same pattern I've seen these past few years. Something will happen at an academically successful MCPS school and some outside agitator looking to make a name for themselves will blow it out of proportion. I think it was the Churchill incident that got quietly dropped because the student who wrote on the desk was black himself? The Wheaton incident was the murder, but I think that was dropped when it turned out it was the foster home kid that did it from the foster home that MCPS zoned into the school. Now it's Wootton under fire for a print job, a desk scribble and someone yelling from a car? Yet not a peep about the student charged with attempted murder at Blair? Seriously? Wootton is the most serious incident in MCPS?

Mark my words - this is the excuse certain anti-asian racist adults will use to deliberately discriminate against a top MCPS school with a large white and asian population. This is how the County will justify not removing the asbesdos from the school, ignoring the possiblity of future cancer. This is the excuse the county will use the next time a ceiling tile falls in the middle of class. This is how the Wootten kids have their school's funding taking away for programs. It is so clear what is happening here.

Half of the BOE was cleaned out, but it's not enough. Jawando needs to be voted out and the members of the BOE and Central Office fired.

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Anonymous wrote:What happened at Wootton is no different than the N Word card incident at Churchill that made national news about 6 years ago. Dr. Moran was Director then. Churchill had a meeting similar to the Wootton meeting tonight. Dr. Moran speaks a good speech but there was little action taken to create a meaningful change at Churchill. I’m not expecting much to change at Wootton.

Frankly, MCPS should have a K to 12 plan for teaching respect for all students and staff including a plan to end bullying and racism in all schools. Why is MCPS always reacting to hate incidents instead of preventing them?

+1. I'm on my third kid through Churchill and had one there at the time that kids thought it was fun to be handing out N Word cards. I haven't seen any change over those many years. My current student says Black kids won't speak up or report bad behavior because they'll be ostracized by the majority. But DC complains about kids saying inappropriate things regularly. (DC is also impressed that Wootton kids took action and seemingly got something done.)

What did they get done, besides a round of musical chairs at the Principal's desk? Are Black students going to stop writing the N-word now?

i've no idea about how often the black kids use it as a term of empowerment (sort of). but I do know that white kids have yelled it at my black kid at school events. and that white kids regularly say things besides this particular word that are racist on their face. i'm less worried about the former (which is often not done in a hateful way or intended to denigrate) than the latter (which clearly are both). this is the point. every white kid (and parent) knows that aiming that word at a minority is done to humiliate or put them down. there's literally no reason to use that word unless you're okay with this outcome. why people on this board openly and repeatedly say that is acceptable is beyond me.

No one is saying that it's acceptable. Some people have reported that they hear/see the word being used often in schools and elsewhere, but that doesn't mean it's acceptable.

Perhaps you don't find it acceptable, but clearly there are people on this board who draw an equivalence between the way Black people use the term and the way White people do.

LOL. So it's fine when black kids say the n-word to each other, but if a non-black person tries to fit in with them and say the exact same word and trying to be cool, the non-black kid will be branded forever as racist??!?!?

WTF!!!! YOU'RE CRAZY!!!!

If you cannot see why a non-black kid cannot say the word, you're dumber than I thought, and this area is supposed to be well educated??
-White person

Tge tide is turning so try to catch up. 30 years ago we had the n word debate in my uni. Back then, it was generally accepted that black people reclaiming the word was a positive but whites should not say it. That was largely because white people were widely using the n word in a derogatory manner. Today that's not the case. I have never heard a non black use that word as a slur in about 30 years.
I have heard black people use it freely towards both other blacks and to whites. Always in a manner that csn be considered endearing or familiar.

The words been reclaimed and changed. Time to stop the white savior bs and admit the black community killed the original meaning of the words themselves without the teary victim mentality some try to impsose on the community.

My black kid (not at Wootton) has had the word yelled at them by a white kid as an insult at within MCPS context (in a sports game) within the last couple of months. Along with other racial insults. My other kid was in a parent carpool to a sports event a couple of months before and was told by white friends that the parent they rode with in a different car used the term to insult black drivers as they were driving to the same event. Your experience is not everyone's experience.

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Anonymous wrote:Can we cut it about the debate on whether Black people use the n word in a different manner than non-Blacks? We know they do, and there's a whole lot of nuance around the conversation but that has nothing to do with the incidents at Wootton.

And again, this phenomenon is not unique to Black people:

Women refer to each as a "ho," "sl*t" or "b*ch" in a joking or friendly manner, but it is still correctly misoygnistic if a man uses those words to demean a woman.

Hispanics call each other mockingly derogatory terms such as "wetback" or "illegal" but it's still a form of hate-bias if non-Hispanics use those terms to make them feel unwelcome.

Asians mock each other for the shape of their eyes or mock their parents' accents, it's still racist if non-Asians make jokes about those attributes to them.

Cut the crap out and stop acting like Black people are some kind of favored outlier that MCPS is protecting. They aren't and that's what is at the core of the problem at Wootton. Black people's concerns, trauma and complaints are routinely dismissed and diminished or ignored.

You say something like that in my presence and I'll turn my back on you. You're total trash. If you work for MCPS, you need to be fired.
You've also never set foot at Wootton, so don't even claim that you "know".

Anonymous wrote:Normally the P would speak to the student's parents then maybe initiate a suspension and it's done. Instead, Jawando and other activists are using as it as an excuse to smear a school that's academically succeeding while the majority of MCPS schools are in decline. All I know is that this is the same pattern I've seen these past few years. Something will happen at an academically successful MCPS school and some outside agitator looking to make a name for themselves will blow it out of proportion. I think it was the Churchill incident that got quietly dropped because the student who wrote on the desk was black himself? The Wheaton incident was the murder, but I think that was dropped when it turned out it was the foster home kid that did it from the foster home that MCPS zoned into the school. Now it's Wootton under fire for a print job, a desk scribble and someone yelling from a car? Yet not a peep about the student charged with attempted murder at Blair? Seriously? Wootton is the most serious incident in MCPS?

Mark my words - this is the excuse certain anti-asian racist adults will use to deliberately discriminate against a top MCPS school with a large white and asian population. This is how the County will justify not removing the asbesdos from the school, ignoring the possiblity of future cancer. This is the excuse the county will use the next time a ceiling tile falls in the middle of class. This is how the Wootten kids have their school's funding taking away for programs. It is so clear what is happening here.

Half of the BOE was cleaned out, but it's not enough. Jawando needs to be voted out and the members of the BOE and Central Office fired.

Anonymous wrote:Can we cut it about the debate on whether Black people use the n word in a different manner than non-Blacks? We know they do, and there's a whole lot of nuance around the conversation but that has nothing to do with the incidents at Wootton.

And again, this phenomenon is not unique to Black people:

Women refer to each as a "ho," "sl*t" or "b*ch" in a joking or friendly manner, but it is still correctly misoygnistic if a man uses those words to demean a woman.

Hispanics call each other mockingly derogatory terms such as "wetback" or "illegal" but it's still a form of hate-bias if non-Hispanics use those terms to make them feel unwelcome.

Asians mock each other for the shape of their eyes or mock their parents' accents, it's still racist if non-Asians make jokes about those attributes to them.

Cut the crap out and stop acting like Black people are some kind of favored outlier that MCPS is protecting. They aren't and that's what is at the core of the problem at Wootton. Black people's concerns, trauma and complaints are routinely dismissed and diminished or ignored.

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Anonymous wrote:What happened at Wootton is no different than the N Word card incident at Churchill that made national news about 6 years ago. Dr. Moran was Director then. Churchill had a meeting similar to the Wootton meeting tonight. Dr. Moran speaks a good speech but there was little action taken to create a meaningful change at Churchill. I’m not expecting much to change at Wootton.

Frankly, MCPS should have a K to 12 plan for teaching respect for all students and staff including a plan to end bullying and racism in all schools. Why is MCPS always reacting to hate incidents instead of preventing them?

+1. I'm on my third kid through Churchill and had one there at the time that kids thought it was fun to be handing out N Word cards. I haven't seen any change over those many years. My current student says Black kids won't speak up or report bad behavior because they'll be ostracized by the majority. But DC complains about kids saying inappropriate things regularly. (DC is also impressed that Wootton kids took action and seemingly got something done.)

What did they get done, besides a round of musical chairs at the Principal's desk? Are Black students going to stop writing the N-word now?

i've no idea about how often the black kids use it as a term of empowerment (sort of). but I do know that white kids have yelled it at my black kid at school events. and that white kids regularly say things besides this particular word that are racist on their face. i'm less worried about the former (which is often not done in a hateful way or intended to denigrate) than the latter (which clearly are both). this is the point. every white kid (and parent) knows that aiming that word at a minority is done to humiliate or put them down. there's literally no reason to use that word unless you're okay with this outcome. why people on this board openly and repeatedly say that is acceptable is beyond me.

No one is saying that it's acceptable. Some people have reported that they hear/see the word being used often in schools and elsewhere, but that doesn't mean it's acceptable.

Perhaps you don't find it acceptable, but clearly there are people on this board who draw an equivalence between the way Black people use the term and the way White people do.

LOL. So it's fine when black kids say the n-word to each other, but if a non-black person tries to fit in with them and say the exact same word and trying to be cool, the non-black kid will be branded forever as racist??!?!?

WTF!!!! YOU'RE CRAZY!!!!

If you cannot see why a non-black kid cannot say the word, you're dumber than I thought, and this area is supposed to be well educated??
-White person

Tge tide is turning so try to catch up. 30 years ago we had the n word debate in my uni. Back then, it was generally accepted that black people reclaiming the word was a positive but whites should not say it. That was largely because white people were widely using the n word in a derogatory manner. Today that's not the case. I have never heard a non black use that word as a slur in about 30 years.
I have heard black people use it freely towards both other blacks and to whites. Always in a manner that csn be considered endearing or familiar.

The words been reclaimed and changed. Time to stop the white savior bs and admit the black community killed the original meaning of the words themselves without the teary victim mentality some try to impsose on the community.

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Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. DCC high school. Black kids use the N word all the time. I have not heard a non-black kid use it.

I never hear that are you sure you're a teacher?

dp.. my kids are at RM (not black), and they say they hear it all the time from black kids. They never hear it from non black kids, and my kids know not to use it.

I went to a majority minority HS with lots of black kids, and they used it *a lot*.

I work at a nearby HS and have never heard it. Seems like you are making this up to push your agenda.

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Anonymous wrote:What happened at Wootton is no different than the N Word card incident at Churchill that made national news about 6 years ago. Dr. Moran was Director then. Churchill had a meeting similar to the Wootton meeting tonight. Dr. Moran speaks a good speech but there was little action taken to create a meaningful change at Churchill. I’m not expecting much to change at Wootton.

Frankly, MCPS should have a K to 12 plan for teaching respect for all students and staff including a plan to end bullying and racism in all schools. Why is MCPS always reacting to hate incidents instead of preventing them?

+1. I'm on my third kid through Churchill and had one there at the time that kids thought it was fun to be handing out N Word cards. I haven't seen any change over those many years. My current student says Black kids won't speak up or report bad behavior because they'll be ostracized by the majority. But DC complains about kids saying inappropriate things regularly. (DC is also impressed that Wootton kids took action and seemingly got something done.)

What did they get done, besides a round of musical chairs at the Principal's desk? Are Black students going to stop writing the N-word now?

i've no idea about how often the black kids use it as a term of empowerment (sort of). but I do know that white kids have yelled it at my black kid at school events. and that white kids regularly say things besides this particular word that are racist on their face. i'm less worried about the former (which is often not done in a hateful way or intended to denigrate) than the latter (which clearly are both). this is the point. every white kid (and parent) knows that aiming that word at a minority is done to humiliate or put them down. there's literally no reason to use that word unless you're okay with this outcome. why people on this board openly and repeatedly say that is acceptable is beyond me.

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ng that it's acceptable. Some people have reported that they hear/see the word being used often in schools and elsewhere, but that doesn't mean it's acceptable.

Perhaps you don't find it acceptable, but clearly there are people on this board who draw an equivalence between the way Black people use the term and the way White people do.

So what do you think MCPS's official policy should be regarding the use of the word, by anyone?

Does mcps go to these extremes for other slurs?

No, they don't. Either ban every slur or. Ban no slurs. Making one group more protected than other groups drives wedges where there weren't any.

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Anonymous wrote:What happened at Wootton is no different than the N Word card incident at Churchill that made national news about 6 years ago. Dr. Moran was Director then. Churchill had a meeting similar to the Wootton meeting tonight. Dr. Moran speaks a good speech but there was little action taken to create a meaningful change at Churchill. I’m not expecting much to change at Wootton.

Frankly, MCPS should have a K to 12 plan for teaching respect for all students and staff including a plan to end bullying and racism in all schools. Why is MCPS always reacting to hate incidents instead of preventing them?

+1. I'm on my third kid through Churchill and had one there at the time that kids thought it was fun to be handing out N Word cards. I haven't seen any change over those many years. My current student says Black kids won't speak up or report bad behavior because they'll be ostracized by the majority. But DC complains about kids saying inappropriate things regularly. (DC is also impressed that Wootton kids took action and seemingly got something done.)

What did they get done, besides a round of musical chairs at the Principal's desk? Are Black students going to stop writing the N-word now?

i've no idea about how often the black kids use it as a term of empowerment (sort of). but I do know that white kids have yelled it at my black kid at school events. and that white kids regularly say things besides this particular word that are racist on their face. i'm less worried about the former (which is often not done in a hateful way or intended to denigrate) than the latter (which clearly are both). this is the point. every white kid (and parent) knows that aiming that word at a minority is done to humiliate or put them down. there's literally no reason to use that word unless you're okay with this outcome. why people on this board openly and repeatedly say that is acceptable is beyond me.

No one is saying that it's acceptable. Some people have reported that they hear/see the word being used often in schools and elsewhere, but that doesn't mean it's acceptable.

Perhaps you don't find it acceptable, but clearly there are people on this board who draw an equivalence between the way Black people use the term and the way White people do.

LOL. So it's fine when black kids say the n-word to each other, but if a non-black person tries to fit in with them and say the exact same word and trying to be cool, the non-black kid will be branded forever as racist??!?!?

WTF!!!! YOU'RE CRAZY!!!!

If you cannot see why a non-black kid cannot say the word, you're dumber than I thought, and this area is supposed to be well educated??
-White person

Tge tide is turning so try to catch up. 30 years ago we had the n word debate in my uni. Back then, it was generally accepted that black people reclaiming the word was a positive but whites should not say it. That was largely because white people were widely using the n word in a derogatory manner. Today that's not the case. I have never heard a non black use that word as a slur in about 30 years.
I have heard black people use it freely towards both other blacks and to whites. Always in a manner that csn be considered endearing or familiar.

The words been reclaimed and changed. Time to stop the white savior bs and admit the black community killed the original meaning of the words themselves without the teary victim mentality some try to impsose on the community.

Do you read the news? These are all separate incidents, by the way.
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/25/632191533/ga-lawmaker-resigns-after-dropping-pants-shouting-slurs-on-sacha-baron-cohen-sho

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/md-legislative-black-caucus-to-meet-with-lawmaker-accused-of-using-the-n-word/2019/02/25/b66a5850-38fe-11e9-a2cd-307b06d0257b_story.html

https://iowacapitaldispatch.com/2024/11/17/pro-gun-advocate-drops-the-n-word-during-testimony-to-michigan-senate-committee/

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alabama-lawmaker-uses-racist-slur-recorded-council-meeting-faces-calls-n1274603