Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ The progress we’ve seen from our efforts over the past decade (including increasing new Black enrollment by 13% over the past year alone and 87% over the past five years) is due to these collaborative efforts. That doesn’t mean we don’t have more to do. In contrast, those who seek to dismantle DEI offices and activities offer no alternative solutions and have no plans to use any “resources saved” to improve the lives of Black students or other minoritized communities. (In fact, when DEI programs have been dismantled, the resources are more likely to go to functions and groups other than minoritized ones).

So, let’s be very clear: those critics (like Heritage) who say they want to dismantle DEI work because they care about Black or minoritized students are gaslighting you.”


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Well let's just hope they get rid of the waste.

I mean 250 MILLION. WTF?

Howard university's annual budget is $200 million
Morehouse is $160 million
Spelman is $140 million

I don't think there are any HBCUs that have a budget higher than $250 million

There are a handful of HBCUs that are under great economic strain.
Meanwhile, Michigan is spending this kid of money to remind white people to feel guilty about slavery.
Just give the money to the HBCUs and you'll be doing more good.

It was over 8 years and much of it included scholarship money.

OK. Sure. It would still be better to just give the money to the United Negro College Fund.,

Stop talking s-t. You are just talking to talk.

I say this as a U of M alum and current undergrad tuition funder. And a long time donor to UNCF too.

Anonymous wrote:It seems telling that the critique of the work done by an NYT investigative reporter largely centers on his reference to the Heritage Foundation -- to wit, so many commentators saying the legitimacy of the article fails there for them. Assume every bad thing you wish about Heritage Foundation, but the merit of the article is in the thoroughness of the reporting. If the reporting is fair and substantiated, then any critique ought to deal with those facts.

Is that a joke?

Go read the rebuttal and we'll wait your response.

Heritage was an accurate red flag.

It seems telling that the critique of the work done by an NYT investigative reporter largely centers on his reference to the Heritage Foundation -- to wit, so many commentators saying the legitimacy of the article fails there for them. Assume every bad thing you wish about Heritage Foundation, but the merit of the article is in the thoroughness of the reporting. If the reporting is fair and substantiated, then any critique ought to deal with those facts.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ The progress we’ve seen from our efforts over the past decade (including increasing new Black enrollment by 13% over the past year alone and 87% over the past five years) is due to these collaborative efforts. That doesn’t mean we don’t have more to do. In contrast, those who seek to dismantle DEI offices and activities offer no alternative solutions and have no plans to use any “resources saved” to improve the lives of Black students or other minoritized communities. (In fact, when DEI programs have been dismantled, the resources are more likely to go to functions and groups other than minoritized ones).

So, let’s be very clear: those critics (like Heritage) who say they want to dismantle DEI work because they care about Black or minoritized students are gaslighting you.”


100%

Well let's just hope they get rid of the waste.

I mean 250 MILLION. WTF?

Howard university's annual budget is $200 million
Morehouse is $160 million
Spelman is $140 million

I don't think there are any HBCUs that have a budget higher than $250 million

There are a handful of HBCUs that are under great economic strain.
Meanwhile, Michigan is spending this kid of money to remind white people to feel guilty about slavery.
Just give the money to the HBCUs and you'll be doing more good.

It was over 8 years and much of it included scholarship money.

OK. Sure. It would still be better to just give the money to the United Negro College Fund.,

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ The progress we’ve seen from our efforts over the past decade (including increasing new Black enrollment by 13% over the past year alone and 87% over the past five years) is due to these collaborative efforts. That doesn’t mean we don’t have more to do. In contrast, those who seek to dismantle DEI offices and activities offer no alternative solutions and have no plans to use any “resources saved” to improve the lives of Black students or other minoritized communities. (In fact, when DEI programs have been dismantled, the resources are more likely to go to functions and groups other than minoritized ones).

So, let’s be very clear: those critics (like Heritage) who say they want to dismantle DEI work because they care about Black or minoritized students are gaslighting you.”


100%

Well let's just hope they get rid of the waste.

I mean 250 MILLION. WTF?

Howard university's annual budget is $200 million
Morehouse is $160 million
Spelman is $140 million

I don't think there are any HBCUs that have a budget higher than $250 million

There are a handful of HBCUs that are under great economic strain.
Meanwhile, Michigan is spending this kid of money to remind white people to feel guilty about slavery.
Just give the money to the HBCUs and you'll be doing more good.

It was over 8 years and much of it included scholarship money.

“For instance, while the reporter frames our DEI programs as primarily focused on race, he overlooks that much of the “quarter billion” U-M has invested in DEI over the past eight years (from a $12 billion annual budget) goes toward socioeconomic access and financial aid programs like the GoBlue Guarantee. This program has been key in recruiting students from across Michigan, particularly white students from rural counties.”

https://academeblog.org/2024/10/18/a-battle-for-truth-setting-the-record-straight-on-dei-at-u-of-michigan/

The Go Blue Guarantee is focused on ECONOMIC diversity, not racial diversity.

https://diversity.umich.edu/dei-strategic-plan/building-an-institutional-plan/signature-initiatives/reducing-economic-barriers-the-go-blue-guarantee/

And? DEI isn't only about race.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ The progress we’ve seen from our efforts over the past decade (including increasing new Black enrollment by 13% over the past year alone and 87% over the past five years) is due to these collaborative efforts. That doesn’t mean we don’t have more to do. In contrast, those who seek to dismantle DEI offices and activities offer no alternative solutions and have no plans to use any “resources saved” to improve the lives of Black students or other minoritized communities. (In fact, when DEI programs have been dismantled, the resources are more likely to go to functions and groups other than minoritized ones).

So, let’s be very clear: those critics (like Heritage) who say they want to dismantle DEI work because they care about Black or minoritized students are gaslighting you.”


100%

Well let's just hope they get rid of the waste.

I mean 250 MILLION. WTF?

Howard university's annual budget is $200 million
Morehouse is $160 million
Spelman is $140 million

I don't think there are any HBCUs that have a budget higher than $250 million

There are a handful of HBCUs that are under great economic strain.
Meanwhile, Michigan is spending this kid of money to remind white people to feel guilty about slavery.
Just give the money to the HBCUs and you'll be doing more good.

It was over 8 years and much of it included scholarship money.

“For instance, while the reporter frames our DEI programs as primarily focused on race, he overlooks that much of the “quarter billion” U-M has invested in DEI over the past eight years (from a $12 billion annual budget) goes toward socioeconomic access and financial aid programs like the GoBlue Guarantee. This program has been key in recruiting students from across Michigan, particularly white students from rural counties.”

https://academeblog.org/2024/10/18/a-battle-for-truth-setting-the-record-straight-on-dei-at-u-of-michigan/

The Go Blue Guarantee is focused on ECONOMIC diversity, not racial diversity.

https://diversity.umich.edu/dei-strategic-plan/building-an-institutional-plan/signature-initiatives/reducing-economic-barriers-the-go-blue-guarantee/

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ The progress we’ve seen from our efforts over the past decade (including increasing new Black enrollment by 13% over the past year alone and 87% over the past five years) is due to these collaborative efforts. That doesn’t mean we don’t have more to do. In contrast, those who seek to dismantle DEI offices and activities offer no alternative solutions and have no plans to use any “resources saved” to improve the lives of Black students or other minoritized communities. (In fact, when DEI programs have been dismantled, the resources are more likely to go to functions and groups other than minoritized ones).

So, let’s be very clear: those critics (like Heritage) who say they want to dismantle DEI work because they care about Black or minoritized students are gaslighting you.”


100%

Well let's just hope they get rid of the waste.

I mean 250 MILLION. WTF?

Howard university's annual budget is $200 million
Morehouse is $160 million
Spelman is $140 million

I don't think there are any HBCUs that have a budget higher than $250 million

There are a handful of HBCUs that are under great economic strain.
Meanwhile, Michigan is spending this kid of money to remind white people to feel guilty about slavery.
Just give the money to the HBCUs and you'll be doing more good.

It was over 8 years and much of it included scholarship money.

“For instance, while the reporter frames our DEI programs as primarily focused on race, he overlooks that much of the “quarter billion” U-M has invested in DEI over the past eight years (from a $12 billion annual budget) goes toward socioeconomic access and financial aid programs like the GoBlue Guarantee. This program has been key in recruiting students from across Michigan, particularly white students from rural counties.”

https://academeblog.org/2024/10/18/a-battle-for-truth-setting-the-record-straight-on-dei-at-u-of-michigan/

Anonymous wrote:Funny how parents are terrified of DEI but the students probably aren’t nearly as triggered.

My kids sit quietly and never give their opinion in class out of fear. Say that in their opinion DEI cultivates racism.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ The progress we’ve seen from our efforts over the past decade (including increasing new Black enrollment by 13% over the past year alone and 87% over the past five years) is due to these collaborative efforts. That doesn’t mean we don’t have more to do. In contrast, those who seek to dismantle DEI offices and activities offer no alternative solutions and have no plans to use any “resources saved” to improve the lives of Black students or other minoritized communities. (In fact, when DEI programs have been dismantled, the resources are more likely to go to functions and groups other than minoritized ones).

So, let’s be very clear: those critics (like Heritage) who say they want to dismantle DEI work because they care about Black or minoritized students are gaslighting you.”


100%

Well let's just hope they get rid of the waste.

I mean 250 MILLION. WTF?

Howard university's annual budget is $200 million
Morehouse is $160 million
Spelman is $140 million

I don't think there are any HBCUs that have a budget higher than $250 million

There are a handful of HBCUs that are under great economic strain.
Meanwhile, Michigan is spending this kid of money to remind white people to feel guilty about slavery.
Just give the money to the HBCUs and you'll be doing more good.

It was over 8 years and much of it included scholarship money.

Anonymous wrote:“ The progress we’ve seen from our efforts over the past decade (including increasing new Black enrollment by 13% over the past year alone and 87% over the past five years) is due to these collaborative efforts. That doesn’t mean we don’t have more to do. In contrast, those who seek to dismantle DEI offices and activities offer no alternative solutions and have no plans to use any “resources saved” to improve the lives of Black students or other minoritized communities. (In fact, when DEI programs have been dismantled, the resources are more likely to go to functions and groups other than minoritized ones).

So, let’s be very clear: those critics (like Heritage) who say they want to dismantle DEI work because they care about Black or minoritized students are gaslighting you.”


100%

Well let's just hope they get rid of the waste.

I mean 250 MILLION. WTF?

Howard university's annual budget is $200 million
Morehouse is $160 million
Spelman is $140 million

I don't think there are any HBCUs that have a budget higher than $250 million

There are a handful of HBCUs that are under great economic strain.
Meanwhile, Michigan is spending this kid of money to remind white people to feel guilty about slavery.
Just give the money to the HBCUs and you'll be doing more good.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DEI overall has had a net positive in our society. Including at UMichigan.

Better representation in classrooms and conference rooms.

Bias and inclusion training.

People more willing to have tough conversations and examine their own biases/assumptions.

Overall, there will be painful times when we are bringing everything to the surface and having these critical conversations. And there will be mistakes along the way. But overall the ship is heading in the right direction.

For UMichigan, a lower % of students feel discrimination today than they did in 2016. BUT the student representation on campus has not budged. They need to do more to make it an attractive campus for talented black students.

+1 This thread is actually proof DEI has been successful. People are having the hard conversations.

This is so dumb. Presumably, if Michigan fires all its DEI bureaucrats, we will have another thread with a hard conversation about that. Meaning, according to your logic, that thread will be proof that firing all the DEI bureaucrats is an also a successful method to stimulate dialogue about diversity.

Florida news covers all kinds of censorship/cancelling/erasure/firings/controversy/upset. And it impacts people's opinion of Florida/Florida government/Florida public education.

PP's point stands.

+1 Banning books makes people want to read them more. Those against DEI would have been better off ignoring it.

Just ignore the $250 million?
DEI is a waste of money, time and talent.
We would all be better off if we took every penny spent on DEI and spent it on nutritionists and therapists.

The journalist should work on his sexism. Don’t get tips from that professor though.

“ On a personal note, the article was rife with sexist tropes, which many in our community noted and found offensive and antithetical to the values of DEI. Despite providing extensive information on my scholarly and professional background (including 26 years as a faculty member and almost two decades as an administrator prior to my current role), none of my credentials nor faculty title were mentioned, my marital status was referred to numerous times, and gendered language was used to describe my interactions and mannerisms, even though we talked by phone! Sadly we know that this type of minimizing and attempt to delegitimize is particularly likely to happen to women and women of color, especially those in leadership roles.”

“ The progress we’ve seen from our efforts over the past decade (including increasing new Black enrollment by 13% over the past year alone and 87% over the past five years) is due to these collaborative efforts. That doesn’t mean we don’t have more to do. In contrast, those who seek to dismantle DEI offices and activities offer no alternative solutions and have no plans to use any “resources saved” to improve the lives of Black students or other minoritized communities. (In fact, when DEI programs have been dismantled, the resources are more likely to go to functions and groups other than minoritized ones).

So, let’s be very clear: those critics (like Heritage) who say they want to dismantle DEI work because they care about Black or minoritized students are gaslighting you.”


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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DEI overall has had a net positive in our society. Including at UMichigan.

Better representation in classrooms and conference rooms.

Bias and inclusion training.

People more willing to have tough conversations and examine their own biases/assumptions.

Overall, there will be painful times when we are bringing everything to the surface and having these critical conversations. And there will be mistakes along the way. But overall the ship is heading in the right direction.

For UMichigan, a lower % of students feel discrimination today than they did in 2016. BUT the student representation on campus has not budged. They need to do more to make it an attractive campus for talented black students.

+1 This thread is actually proof DEI has been successful. People are having the hard conversations.

This is so dumb. Presumably, if Michigan fires all its DEI bureaucrats, we will have another thread with a hard conversation about that. Meaning, according to your logic, that thread will be proof that firing all the DEI bureaucrats is an also a successful method to stimulate dialogue about diversity.

Florida news covers all kinds of censorship/cancelling/erasure/firings/controversy/upset. And it impacts people's opinion of Florida/Florida government/Florida public education.

PP's point stands.

+1 Banning books makes people want to read them more. Those against DEI would have been better off ignoring it.

As pointed out here several times…

“ Similarly, the article raises many concerns around political bias. For example, the reporter cites the Heritage Foundation as a primary data source for validating assertions regarding the failures of DEI efforts. As many know, the Heritage Foundation is a political organization — not a research organization or think tank that uses empirical standards — and it is the architect of Project 2025, which is staunchly anti-DEI. However, in the article, the organization is presented as an objective and key research authority. Ironically, only a few weeks ago, the NYT discredited the Heritage Foundation for spreading deceptive videos about non-citizen voters. But, we should view this organization as a credible critic of DEI work, right?”