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Anonymous wrote:I am sure if the new admissions has been as successful as they claimed, TJ teachers would not have to send out emails like this

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Wows, I wonder what happened last year.

That was not last year. DD as a freshman last year and I recall seeing this email string post while we were delivering that spring of 2022 whether to send her or not. It was from the 2021-2022 year.

Moreover Math 4 “normal track” is mainly a sophomore class. “Normal track” for the first batch of new admission system kids would have been Research Statistics and Math 3 freshman year in 2021-2022. That means it was mainly - or at least a very large share - the kids under the last old admissions system class in Math 4 that year.

Bingo. The email header even says "Spring '22" on it. The only kids who would have received that email from the Class of 2025 would have been significantly advanced in math.

Remember the Class of 2025 only had about 20 something Alg 1. So, this course had a few Alg 1 from the Class of 2025 and most from Geo from the Class of 2026. This shows an even crazier truth, even Geo freshmen in the new admissions are not ready for a normal TJ curriculum.

Of course, the 550 selections are random lottery choice from 2600 applicants. No mechanism to pick the most qualified in math and science. As with any random probability selection, there is an even spread of math and science talent from top 1/5th of the class with algebra 2 to the bottom 1/5th with algebra 1, and geometry students fill the middle with wide varying range of proficiencies.

Straight from FCPS, here are some initial stats (note: these are PRIOR to tomorrow’s deadline, after which offers go out to waitlist kiddos).

https://www.fcps.edu/news/offers-extended-thomas-jefferson-high-school-science-and-technology-class-2028

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Anonymous wrote:I am sure if the new admissions has been as successful as they claimed, TJ teachers would not have to send out emails like this

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Wows, I wonder what happened last year.

That was not last year. DD as a freshman last year and I recall seeing this email string post while we were delivering that spring of 2022 whether to send her or not. It was from the 2021-2022 year.

Moreover Math 4 “normal track” is mainly a sophomore class. “Normal track” for the first batch of new admission system kids would have been Research Statistics and Math 3 freshman year in 2021-2022. That means it was mainly - or at least a very large share - the kids under the last old admissions system class in Math 4 that year.

Bingo. The email header even says "Spring '22" on it. The only kids who would have received that email from the Class of 2025 would have been significantly advanced in math.

Remember the Class of 2025 only had about 20 something Alg 1. So, this course had a few Alg 1 from the Class of 2025 and most from Geo from the Class of 2026. This shows an even crazier truth, even Geo freshmen in the new admissions are not ready for a normal TJ curriculum.

“All students offered admissions need to record the intent to attend TJHSST or not by Friday, April 26 at 4:00pm.”


One would assume offers to those on the waitlist will go out shortly thereafter.

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Anonymous wrote:I am sure if the new admissions has been as successful as they claimed, TJ teachers would not have to send out emails like this

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Wows, I wonder what happened last year.

This is not from last year. This is from Spring,22.

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Anonymous wrote:I am sure if the new admissions has been as successful as they claimed, TJ teachers would not have to send out emails like this

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Wows, I wonder what happened last year.

That was not last year. DD as a freshman last year and I recall seeing this email string post while we were delivering that spring of 2022 whether to send her or not. It was from the 2021-2022 year.

Moreover Math 4 “normal track” is mainly a sophomore class. “Normal track” for the first batch of new admission system kids would have been Research Statistics and Math 3 freshman year in 2021-2022. That means it was mainly - or at least a very large share - the kids under the last old admissions system class in Math 4 that year.

Bingo. The email header even says "Spring '22" on it. The only kids who would have received that email from the Class of 2025 would have been significantly advanced in math.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.fcps.edu/news/offers-extended-thomas-jefferson-high-school-science-and-technology-class-2028

Longfellow actually have the highest acceptance…

In absolute yes, but it's more revealing to look at % accepted by school.

Where are you seeing this data?

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Anonymous wrote:I am sure if the new admissions has been as successful as they claimed, TJ teachers would not have to send out emails like this

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I have a real hard time believing these poorly written emails actually originated from teachers

They sound like how math teachers would write - direct and straightforward. Equity admissions may secure students a spot at TJ, but it won't compensate for lack of prerequisite math and daily practice habits. Math learning demands practice, and unlike in middle school with superficial homework and inflated grades, fortunately, at TJ, math teachers insist on thorough learning, which makes practice unavoidable. Those who have cultivated disciplined math practice and deep learning habits from their elementary and middle school grades would find TJ math learning seamless. However, TJ math teachers, some of whom are alumni themselves as the email notes, are warning students to abandon their lazy expectations of inflated grades and buckle down.

It's been established upthread that the students who received this email would have been primarily members of the Class of 2024, under the old admissions process. Sorry about your narrative.

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I have a real hard time believing these poorly written emails actually originated from teachers

Poorly written and absolutely nothing I'd ever expect to read from a teacher. At MIT we regularly had exam averages in the 50s, 60s or 70s. Professors were never unprofessional like that.

You explained it yourself. It wasn't anything REGULAR at TJ. Maybe, it's now.

It was actually quite common in physics at TJ for many years.

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I have a real hard time believing these poorly written emails actually originated from teachers

Poorly written and absolutely nothing I'd ever expect to read from a teacher. At MIT we regularly had exam averages in the 50s, 60s or 70s. Professors were never unprofessional like that.

The MIT tests are hard enough that an average in the 50s is fine and within the professor's expectations. That's not true in highschool. Furthermore, if they didn't care, they wouldn't have put in the effort of writing that email to give the students a wake up call

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I have a real hard time believing these poorly written emails actually originated from teachers

Poorly written and absolutely nothing I'd ever expect to read from a teacher. At MIT we regularly had exam averages in the 50s, 60s or 70s. Professors were never unprofessional like that.

"Poorly written" and "unprofessional" because the teacher didn't sugar coat the unpreparedness and lack of effort from the students recently admitted to TJ.

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I have a real hard time believing these poorly written emails actually originated from teachers

Poorly written and absolutely nothing I'd ever expect to read from a teacher. At MIT we regularly had exam averages in the 50s, 60s or 70s. Professors were never unprofessional like that.

You explained it yourself. It wasn't anything REGULAR at TJ. Maybe, it's now.

The "MIT" person is likely the same troll who has been spouting their "MIT" credentials on the opening line of their threads while showing a general lack of understanding and common sense on basic topics. If they actually went to MIT, they would understand that 1) A typical MIT exam in the sciences and engineering is purely about raw problem solving; on a different level than what is tested on a TJ Math 4 exam, thus a curve at MIT is normal and even very likely. 2) The TJ letter was extremely well written and pinpointed the exact problem with abundant evidence of the students lack of motivation or effort. They even excellently summarized that it's not a capability issue, it's about attitude.
Unfortunately this is much more common these days; it's not a coincidence that a current #1 bestseller is this book https://www.amazon.com/Anxious-Generation-Rewiring-Childhood-Epidemic/dp/0593655036

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I have a real hard time believing these poorly written emails actually originated from teachers

Poorly written and absolutely nothing I'd ever expect to read from a teacher. At MIT we regularly had exam averages in the 50s, 60s or 70s. Professors were never unprofessional like that.

You explained it yourself. It wasn't anything REGULAR at TJ. Maybe, it's now.

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I have a real hard time believing these poorly written emails actually originated from teachers

They sound like how math teachers would write - direct and straightforward. Equity admissions may secure students a spot at TJ, but it won't compensate for lack of prerequisite math and daily practice habits. Math learning demands practice, and unlike in middle school with superficial homework and inflated grades, fortunately, at TJ, math teachers insist on thorough learning, which makes practice unavoidable. Those who have cultivated disciplined math practice and deep learning habits from their elementary and middle school grades would find TJ math learning seamless. However, TJ math teachers, some of whom are alumni themselves as the email notes, are warning students to abandon their lazy expectations of inflated grades and buckle down.

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I have a real hard time believing these poorly written emails actually originated from teachers

Poorly written and absolutely nothing I'd ever expect to read from a teacher. At MIT we regularly had exam averages in the 50s, 60s or 70s. Professors were never unprofessional like that.