Anonymous
Post 03/26/2024 16:08     Subject: Key bridge in Baltimore collapses after cargo ship crashes into it
Can we start a new thread for how to survive in water so this can just be about the bridge?

I was looking at one of the vessel tracking pages and there were dozens of ships lingering in the bay. How long do we think until the pet reopens? Will those ships wait it out or turn around?
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2024 16:06     Subject: Key bridge in Baltimore collapses after cargo ship crashes into it
WaPo says the NTSB head said their team arrived at 6 pm to start their investigation…but 6 pm hasn’t happened yet 🤔
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2024 16:05     Subject: Key bridge in Baltimore collapses after cargo ship crashes into it
Anonymous wrote:I’ve not read all pages… but. What is the prudent thing to do… open a window so you can squeeze out?


Yes. Open it before you are submerged and get out as quickly as possible. If you have children in your car, I dunno just go down with them. Personally I could not live knowing I had been able to escape a vehicle and left them behind.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2024 16:03     Subject: Key bridge in Baltimore collapses after cargo ship crashes into it
I’ve not read all pages… but. What is the prudent thing to do… open a window so you can squeeze out?
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2024 16:03     Subject: Key bridge in Baltimore collapses after cargo ship crashes into it
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Anonymous wrote:I would say 99.9% of DCUM posters would not survive this bridge crash. Most of you are past 50, in poor physical health, and overweight. You can roll down your windows all you want though. Whatever makes you sleep better at night.


This bridge is 185 feet above the water in the middle. It's unlikely to survive that fall, especially with tons of steel collapsing on you as well, regardless of age or fitness.


They rescued two alive already


Hours ago. The water is very cold, so it's unlikely they'll find more.


A ten story fall is not survivable. I wonder if the two survivors were strapped in or on a section that did not totally collapse.

One of the survivors was a worker on the ship
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2024 16:01     Subject: Key bridge in Baltimore collapses after cargo ship crashes into it
To think that bridge collapsed in 40 seconds...
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2024 15:55     Subject: Key bridge in Baltimore collapses after cargo ship crashes into it
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Anonymous wrote:Even if you got out of the car, you are in the middle of a huge river! How are you swimming to safety? What about the infant in the car seat?


I used to drive my kids back and forth from VA to MD several times a week and would keep their life jackets in the car because I am a little paranoid. I'm also a bridge engineer and have an unnatural fear of such an incident. We don't go as frequently anymore, but I'm gonna put them back in the car.


that was an unexpected plot twist



You'd think as an engineer you would have an understanding of the rarity of this kind of thing happening. I mean, does someone have the statistics on how many people are killed annually by bridge collapses? I'm guessing a million other things rank much higher.


I believe these are government employees that have never had to make a cost-benefit or risk analysis. Remember, if it saves just one person...


What are the chances of a life jacket saving anyone in the event of your car falling off a bridge into water? You have a few seconds, at most, to unbuckle car seats/seat belts, open car doors and windows, put on life jacket for yourself and your kids, all while violently falling through the air/being bumped around the inside of the vehicle, potentially w debris and/or other vehicles hitting you and becoming submerged in water. I’m just trying to understand how you would even be able to/have time to get a life jacket on in this scenario.


I could definitely see a market for a car seat with a built in airbag or other floatation device that allows the car seat to surface to the air on its own. Maybe similar to the airbags used by backcountry skiers to survive avalanches.

Car is filling with water, you get to the back seat and unlatch the car seat from the anchors. Once the pressure equalizes, you open the backdoor, activate the airbag, and push out your kid's car seat (with kid still strapped in). Kid floats to the surface. This also allows the adults to better focus on their own safety once they escape the underwater vehicle and don't have to worry about trying to surface while holding a squirmy kid.


Tell me you've never installed a carseat without telling me you've never installed a carseat
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2024 15:53     Subject: Key bridge in Baltimore collapses after cargo ship crashes into it
Where are the articles about how a ship that just left port, 10 mins later has all power going out before even getting out from the bridge they all go under.

What a $hitShow.

Total investigation of the crew, maintenance crew/records, all people on board (petro, food, waste), etc. for Foul Play.

And look into the tech and cyber angle.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2024 15:53     Subject: Key bridge in Baltimore collapses after cargo ship crashes into it
Anonymous wrote:Who are these geniuses who think you can open a door or window underwater??
Are you unfamiliar with water pressure ???


i honestly think that person meant they'd open the door on the way down?? which is ridiculous, obviously.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2024 15:46     Subject: Key bridge in Baltimore collapses after cargo ship crashes into it
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Anonymous wrote:Even if you got out of the car, you are in the middle of a huge river! How are you swimming to safety? What about the infant in the car seat?


I used to drive my kids back and forth from VA to MD several times a week and would keep their life jackets in the car because I am a little paranoid. I'm also a bridge engineer and have an unnatural fear of such an incident. We don't go as frequently anymore, but I'm gonna put them back in the car.


that was an unexpected plot twist



You'd think as an engineer you would have an understanding of the rarity of this kind of thing happening. I mean, does someone have the statistics on how many people are killed annually by bridge collapses? I'm guessing a million other things rank much higher.


I believe these are government employees that have never had to make a cost-benefit or risk analysis. Remember, if it saves just one person...


No idea what you are saying but govt employees make these judgments all the time. It came up at the Supreme Court argument on the abortion pill today that the FDA isn’t looking at the risk of the pill in isolation but compared to other alternatives. And pretty much every rule gets costed out with an alternatives analysis.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2024 15:45     Subject: Key bridge in Baltimore collapses after cargo ship crashes into it
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Anonymous wrote:The Baltimore mayor….. wow.

Good luck to his voters.


What exactly is wrong with the Baltimore mayor? Be specific.


I'd love PP to elaborate as well. I keep seeing a brief response clip in which he sounded perfectly normal on Twitter, and the replies are teeming with racism.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2024 15:42     Subject: Key bridge in Baltimore collapses after cargo ship crashes into it
Anonymous wrote:The Baltimore mayor….. wow.

Good luck to his voters.


What exactly is wrong with the Baltimore mayor? Be specific.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2024 15:40     Subject: Key bridge in Baltimore collapses after cargo ship crashes into it
The Baltimore mayor….. wow.

Good luck to his voters.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2024 15:31     Subject: Key bridge in Baltimore collapses after cargo ship crashes into it
Anonymous wrote:Here's the link again:

It's not clear if any or how many cars may have been plunged into the water. This Topgear video opened my eyes to how things would probably go - basically forget about waiting for the car to fill up with water, etc. Just get the heck out as fast as you can.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-hADcZ49fE


Welp, there goes my plan. He had to wait a loooooooooooong time for that pressure to equalize.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2024 15:25     Subject: Key bridge in Baltimore collapses after cargo ship crashes into it
It is dangerous being a construction worker on Baltimore's I-695. Last year in March , six construction workers were killed when a car hit them on I-695 near I-70. And now this March it seems that another 6 construction workers were killed on the bridge connecting I-695.