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Anonymous wrote:This thread is terrible PR. I am surprise none of there over paid directors has not stopped here and posted some desperate spin.

Paul Ellis does not care about anything but money coming into his club. I know for a fact parents has voiced many concerns and nothing ever changes. He doesn't care about parents or players. He is willing to lose the parents and players that have a heart for the game and know what this club is doing isn't anything to get their kid to play their best.

He doesn't care about you and other parents because you are probably annoying and an idiot. He does care about the player and the game. Do you even know the talent he's seen? Your child probably couldn't even hold a water bottle in comparison to the talent he's had in the past. That's probably why you're on here complaining. Shut up. https://www.vadcsoccerhof.org/hall-of-fame-inductees/hall-of-fame-bios/paul-ellis#:~:text=Paul%20Ellis%20is%20currently%20the,levels%20of%20the%20youth%20game.

Nonsense. He came up with a whole plan to create a separate organization to keep travel profits separate from the original rec leagues they were associated with, designated himself in charge, and pays himself a large salary. (They don't even get their own permits, they use CYA fields which means fewer fields for the CYA rec teams.) He cares about cash money ducats and nothing else. If he truly cared about the game and the player, he would let exceptional poor kids play for free (Valor has very stingy financial aid). They would send weak players back to the rec leagues instead of taking their money and be honest with parents.

THIS. U9 boys team has a gold, white, black, silver and blue. We have watched some of these games in passing and they are painful. And it isnt the kids fault. these are rec league players paying travel dues just because. If he was in it for the players these teams wouldnt exist.

I believe the U10 girls have 5 or 6 teams as well.

The U11 girls only have 2 teams and the second team is very weak.

That's putting it nicely. They were in 6th division last season. Though, to their credit, they did bump up to 5th division for the spring after beating 4th/5th teams from other clubs.

In their defense a very close friend of mine has a kid on the u11 gold and these girls have not had proper training since entering the travel soccer program. Honestly I would consider these girls self taught. If you knew half of the shenanigans these players and parents are dealing with you would be shocked. We are on our third travel team with my daughter and while some of it is regular club growing pains they really did a disservice to these girls.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is terrible PR. I am surprise none of there over paid directors has not stopped here and posted some desperate spin.

Paul Ellis does not care about anything but money coming into his club. I know for a fact parents has voiced many concerns and nothing ever changes. He doesn't care about parents or players. He is willing to lose the parents and players that have a heart for the game and know what this club is doing isn't anything to get their kid to play their best.

He doesn't care about you and other parents because you are probably annoying and an idiot. He does care about the player and the game. Do you even know the talent he's seen? Your child probably couldn't even hold a water bottle in comparison to the talent he's had in the past. That's probably why you're on here complaining. Shut up. https://www.vadcsoccerhof.org/hall-of-fame-inductees/hall-of-fame-bios/paul-ellis#:~:text=Paul%20Ellis%20is%20currently%20the,levels%20of%20the%20youth%20game.

Nonsense. He came up with a whole plan to create a separate organization to keep travel profits separate from the original rec leagues they were associated with, designated himself in charge, and pays himself a large salary. (They don't even get their own permits, they use CYA fields which means fewer fields for the CYA rec teams.) He cares about cash money ducats and nothing else. If he truly cared about the game and the player, he would let exceptional poor kids play for free (Valor has very stingy financial aid). They would send weak players back to the rec leagues instead of taking their money and be honest with parents.

THIS. U9 boys team has a gold, white, black, silver and blue. We have watched some of these games in passing and they are painful. And it isnt the kids fault. these are rec league players paying travel dues just because. If he was in it for the players these teams wouldnt exist.

I believe the U10 girls have 5 or 6 teams as well.

The U11 girls only have 2 teams and the second team is very weak.

That's putting it nicely. They were in 6th division last season. Though, to their credit, they did bump up to 5th division for the spring after beating 4th/5th teams from other clubs.

In their defense a very close friend of mine has a kid on the u11 gold and these girls have not had proper training since entering the travel soccer program. Honestly I would consider these girls self taught. If you knew half of the shenanigans these players and parents are dealing with you would be shocked. We are on our third travel team with my daughter and while some of it is regular club growing pains they really did a disservice to these girls.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is terrible PR. I am surprise none of there over paid directors has not stopped here and posted some desperate spin.

Paul Ellis does not care about anything but money coming into his club. I know for a fact parents has voiced many concerns and nothing ever changes. He doesn't care about parents or players. He is willing to lose the parents and players that have a heart for the game and know what this club is doing isn't anything to get their kid to play their best.

He doesn't care about you and other parents because you are probably annoying and an idiot. He does care about the player and the game. Do you even know the talent he's seen? Your child probably couldn't even hold a water bottle in comparison to the talent he's had in the past. That's probably why you're on here complaining. Shut up. https://www.vadcsoccerhof.org/hall-of-fame-inductees/hall-of-fame-bios/paul-ellis#:~:text=Paul%20Ellis%20is%20currently%20the,levels%20of%20the%20youth%20game.

Nonsense. He came up with a whole plan to create a separate organization to keep travel profits separate from the original rec leagues they were associated with, designated himself in charge, and pays himself a large salary. (They don't even get their own permits, they use CYA fields which means fewer fields for the CYA rec teams.) He cares about cash money ducats and nothing else. If he truly cared about the game and the player, he would let exceptional poor kids play for free (Valor has very stingy financial aid). They would send weak players back to the rec leagues instead of taking their money and be honest with parents.

THIS. U9 boys team has a gold, white, black, silver and blue. We have watched some of these games in passing and they are painful. And it isnt the kids fault. these are rec league players paying travel dues just because. If he was in it for the players these teams wouldnt exist.

I believe the U10 girls have 5 or 6 teams as well.

The U11 girls only have 2 teams and the second team is very weak.

That's putting it nicely. They were in 6th division last season. Though, to their credit, they did bump up to 5th division for the spring after beating 4th/5th teams from other clubs.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is terrible PR. I am surprise none of there over paid directors has not stopped here and posted some desperate spin.

Paul Ellis does not care about anything but money coming into his club. I know for a fact parents has voiced many concerns and nothing ever changes. He doesn't care about parents or players. He is willing to lose the parents and players that have a heart for the game and know what this club is doing isn't anything to get their kid to play their best.

He doesn't care about you and other parents because you are probably annoying and an idiot. He does care about the player and the game. Do you even know the talent he's seen? Your child probably couldn't even hold a water bottle in comparison to the talent he's had in the past. That's probably why you're on here complaining. Shut up. https://www.vadcsoccerhof.org/hall-of-fame-inductees/hall-of-fame-bios/paul-ellis#:~:text=Paul%20Ellis%20is%20currently%20the,levels%20of%20the%20youth%20game.

Nonsense. He came up with a whole plan to create a separate organization to keep travel profits separate from the original rec leagues they were associated with, designated himself in charge, and pays himself a large salary. (They don't even get their own permits, they use CYA fields which means fewer fields for the CYA rec teams.) He cares about cash money ducats and nothing else. If he truly cared about the game and the player, he would let exceptional poor kids play for free (Valor has very stingy financial aid). They would send weak players back to the rec leagues instead of taking their money and be honest with parents.

THIS. U9 boys team has a gold, white, black, silver and blue. We have watched some of these games in passing and they are painful. And it isnt the kids fault. these are rec league players paying travel dues just because. If he was in it for the players these teams wouldnt exist.

I believe the U10 girls have 5 or 6 teams as well.

The U11 girls only have 2 teams and the second team is very weak.

That's putting it nicely. They were in 6th division last season. Though, to their credit, they did bump up to 5th division for the spring after beating 4th/5th teams from other clubs.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is terrible PR. I am surprise none of there over paid directors has not stopped here and posted some desperate spin.

Paul Ellis does not care about anything but money coming into his club. I know for a fact parents has voiced many concerns and nothing ever changes. He doesn't care about parents or players. He is willing to lose the parents and players that have a heart for the game and know what this club is doing isn't anything to get their kid to play their best.

He doesn't care about you and other parents because you are probably annoying and an idiot. He does care about the player and the game. Do you even know the talent he's seen? Your child probably couldn't even hold a water bottle in comparison to the talent he's had in the past. That's probably why you're on here complaining. Shut up. https://www.vadcsoccerhof.org/hall-of-fame-inductees/hall-of-fame-bios/paul-ellis#:~:text=Paul%20Ellis%20is%20currently%20the,levels%20of%20the%20youth%20game.

Nonsense. He came up with a whole plan to create a separate organization to keep travel profits separate from the original rec leagues they were associated with, designated himself in charge, and pays himself a large salary. (They don't even get their own permits, they use CYA fields which means fewer fields for the CYA rec teams.) He cares about cash money ducats and nothing else. If he truly cared about the game and the player, he would let exceptional poor kids play for free (Valor has very stingy financial aid). They would send weak players back to the rec leagues instead of taking their money and be honest with parents.

THIS. U9 boys team has a gold, white, black, silver and blue. We have watched some of these games in passing and they are painful. And it isnt the kids fault. these are rec league players paying travel dues just because. If he was in it for the players these teams wouldnt exist.

I believe the U10 girls have 5 or 6 teams as well.

The U11 girls only have 2 teams and the second team is very weak.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is terrible PR. I am surprise none of there over paid directors has not stopped here and posted some desperate spin.

Paul Ellis does not care about anything but money coming into his club. I know for a fact parents has voiced many concerns and nothing ever changes. He doesn't care about parents or players. He is willing to lose the parents and players that have a heart for the game and know what this club is doing isn't anything to get their kid to play their best.

He doesn't care about you and other parents because you are probably annoying and an idiot. He does care about the player and the game. Do you even know the talent he's seen? Your child probably couldn't even hold a water bottle in comparison to the talent he's had in the past. That's probably why you're on here complaining. Shut up. https://www.vadcsoccerhof.org/hall-of-fame-inductees/hall-of-fame-bios/paul-ellis#:~:text=Paul%20Ellis%20is%20currently%20the,levels%20of%20the%20youth%20game.

Nonsense. He came up with a whole plan to create a separate organization to keep travel profits separate from the original rec leagues they were associated with, designated himself in charge, and pays himself a large salary. (They don't even get their own permits, they use CYA fields which means fewer fields for the CYA rec teams.) He cares about cash money ducats and nothing else. If he truly cared about the game and the player, he would let exceptional poor kids play for free (Valor has very stingy financial aid). They would send weak players back to the rec leagues instead of taking their money and be honest with parents.

THIS. U9 boys team has a gold, white, black, silver and blue. We have watched some of these games in passing and they are painful. And it isnt the kids fault. these are rec league players paying travel dues just because. If he was in it for the players these teams wouldnt exist.

I believe the U10 girls have 5 or 6 teams as well.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is terrible PR. I am surprise none of there over paid directors has not stopped here and posted some desperate spin.

Paul Ellis does not care about anything but money coming into his club. I know for a fact parents has voiced many concerns and nothing ever changes. He doesn't care about parents or players. He is willing to lose the parents and players that have a heart for the game and know what this club is doing isn't anything to get their kid to play their best.

He doesn't care about you and other parents because you are probably annoying and an idiot. He does care about the player and the game. Do you even know the talent he's seen? Your child probably couldn't even hold a water bottle in comparison to the talent he's had in the past. That's probably why you're on here complaining. Shut up. https://www.vadcsoccerhof.org/hall-of-fame-inductees/hall-of-fame-bios/paul-ellis#:~:text=Paul%20Ellis%20is%20currently%20the,levels%20of%20the%20youth%20game.

Nonsense. He came up with a whole plan to create a separate organization to keep travel profits separate from the original rec leagues they were associated with, designated himself in charge, and pays himself a large salary. (They don't even get their own permits, they use CYA fields which means fewer fields for the CYA rec teams.) He cares about cash money ducats and nothing else. If he truly cared about the game and the player, he would let exceptional poor kids play for free (Valor has very stingy financial aid). They would send weak players back to the rec leagues instead of taking their money and be honest with parents.

THIS. U9 boys team has a gold, white, black, silver and blue. We have watched some of these games in passing and they are painful. And it isnt the kids fault. these are rec league players paying travel dues just because. If he was in it for the players these teams wouldnt exist.

I believe the U10 girls have 5 or 6 teams as well.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is terrible PR. I am surprise none of there over paid directors has not stopped here and posted some desperate spin.

Paul Ellis does not care about anything but money coming into his club. I know for a fact parents has voiced many concerns and nothing ever changes. He doesn't care about parents or players. He is willing to lose the parents and players that have a heart for the game and know what this club is doing isn't anything to get their kid to play their best.

He doesn't care about you and other parents because you are probably annoying and an idiot. He does care about the player and the game. Do you even know the talent he's seen? Your child probably couldn't even hold a water bottle in comparison to the talent he's had in the past. That's probably why you're on here complaining. Shut up. https://www.vadcsoccerhof.org/hall-of-fame-inductees/hall-of-fame-bios/paul-ellis#:~:text=Paul%20Ellis%20is%20currently%20the,levels%20of%20the%20youth%20game.

Nonsense. He came up with a whole plan to create a separate organization to keep travel profits separate from the original rec leagues they were associated with, designated himself in charge, and pays himself a large salary. (They don't even get their own permits, they use CYA fields which means fewer fields for the CYA rec teams.) He cares about cash money ducats and nothing else. If he truly cared about the game and the player, he would let exceptional poor kids play for free (Valor has very stingy financial aid). They would send weak players back to the rec leagues instead of taking their money and be honest with parents.

THIS. U9 boys team has a gold, white, black, silver and blue. We have watched some of these games in passing and they are painful. And it isnt the kids fault. these are rec league players paying travel dues just because. If he was in it for the players these teams wouldnt exist.

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Anonymous wrote:At rec games, I have seen parents filming with their phones but never a tripod or professional set up. Seems a little OTT.

What was over the top? Filming your kids soccer game? Or threatening to call the cops because you are filming your kids soccer game?

Having the whole set up for filming a rec game seems excessive but its a free country. I can't believe someone even complained about that.

Who knows? These rec coaches are egomaniacs. Filming games, threatening to call the cops, using travel players in rec tournaments. This crap just doesn't happen in travel.

So did the police get called? I’m still stunned that anyone would call the cops for filming a rec game.

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how this thread about valor has exploded and the club sent out tryout registration emails this AM. I guess they want to see how many existing kids will be trying out this year. I think many are jumping ship.

Tryout registration!? The season hasn't even started yet. Or barely. Its like you are paying for half a year.

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We basically pay for 1 season. Winter program is nonexistent and spring will also be a wash. The key takeaway is learn from us, and stay away.

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how this thread about valor has exploded and the club sent out tryout registration emails this AM. I guess they want to see how many existing kids will be trying out this year. I think many are jumping ship.

Tryout registration!? The season hasn't even started yet. Or barely. Its like you are paying for half a year.

Anonymous wrote:I think every club is going to start to put up tryout ads and registration links now. ECNL and GA sessions are underway. We have not registered yet (though we will- DS is a happy kid at Valor with a coach who teaches the game and cares about the players), but I'm not going to be offended by the fact that the option is there already. In my son's age group there is plenty of movement between teams and people from outside absolutely attended tryouts and made all of the teams last year. My neighbor with a daughter is quite happy too. I told her about this thread and she was shocked. We both have younger players. You never know, but I would be surprised if anyone on our team is not returning.

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Anonymous wrote:At rec games, I have seen parents filming with their phones but never a tripod or professional set up. Seems a little OTT.

What was over the top? Filming your kids soccer game? Or threatening to call the cops because you are filming your kids soccer game?

Having the whole set up for filming a rec game seems excessive but its a free country. I can't believe someone even complained about that.

Who knows? These rec coaches are egomaniacs. Filming games, threatening to call the cops, using travel players in rec tournaments. This crap just doesn't happen in travel.

Anonymous wrote:I think every club is going to start to put up tryout ads and registration links now. ECNL and GA sessions are underway. We have not registered yet (though we will- DS is a happy kid at Valor with a coach who teaches the game and cares about the players), but I'm not going to be offended by the fact that the option is there already. In my son's age group there is plenty of movement between teams and people from outside absolutely attended tryouts and made all of the teams last year. My neighbor with a daughter is quite happy too. I told her about this thread and she was shocked. We both have younger players. You never know, but I would be surprised if anyone on our team is not returning.