Anonymous
Post 01/30/2024 13:17     Subject: I hate Trump, but I get why a huge part of middle America loves him

Centralized government is always tye vehicle for evil leaders. I always vote for a decentralized and weak as possible centralized authority. Government should fear its citizens.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2024 13:12     Subject: I hate Trump, but I get why a huge part of middle America loves him
Anonymous wrote:I don't live him. I actually dislike him and think he's a liar and a fraud. But I have no choice but to vote for him. The alternative is unthinkable.


You have no choice, really? Nah, you’re enjoying it. The fraud and the vileness is what you enjoy about him. Just own it- you’re a bad person. You want bad things for other people. There are lots of bad people in America, and you’re one of them. Despite whatever nonsense you tell yourself.

(PS- God knows you’re a bad person, too.)
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2024 13:02     Subject: I hate Trump, but I get why a huge part of middle America loves him
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a typical educated and wealthy DC-area striver. Atheist, support women's right to choose, value the diversity of cultures in this world, etc. I wouldn't say no to a tax cut, lol. I'm going to be good whoever gets elected.

We gotta face facts, though. Most of America is not like DC. It's hugely white, under-educated, under-employed people, who have been truly screwed over by progressive policies.

They have to compete with millions upon millions of lower cost illegal migrants flooding across the borders. They have been penalized by the color of their skin when applying to college and jobs. Suicide, depression, opioids, wars they have to fight and die in...it has gotten quite bad.

Once upon a time, democrats valued this massive part of America. Do they still? Can they?




This is basically the Cliff Notes version of what Bill Maher has been saying for years.

I’ll add another layer - I was in multiple Walmarts in Delaware in the fall (searching for something very specific), and I observed the same thing each time: a smattering of black and white longtime DE locals who were visibly annoyed (at best) or almost confused at the overwhelming numbers of Spanish-speaking newcomers at every turn. All the local churches had flipped to Spanish as well. Imagine living in a small town that has completely shifted in terms of demographics. Hint: it’s far more noticeable in smaller areas than places like the dc metro area.

If you don’t think that change will impact votes, then I suspect you’ll get a big wake-up call in November.

FTR, I’m a Dem who will never vote R no matter what…but I see the writing on the wall.


The same folks are also upset their crab meat cost $50/lb during COVID, lawn services are suddenly out of reach, and restaurant meals cost a fortune. It’s all related. We’ve run out of cheap labor demographically, and that’s a big part of what is driving up costs ( beyond simple profiteering which is also a factor).

Some communities have embraced the immigrants as breathing life into dying towns. Yeah, it’s a little hard to be a minority in your home. I imagine the former largely WASP residents of many areas felt the same way when the Irish, the Italians, the Polish, Eastern European Jews, etc. moved in and “took over” 100 years ago. But guess what- they all assimilated eventually and added immensely to the fabric of the country. In case anyone forgot their own family history, it did take a generation or two for that to happen.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2024 12:50     Subject: I hate Trump, but I get why a huge part of middle America loves him
I don't live him. I actually dislike him and think he's a liar and a fraud. But I have no choice but to vote for him. The alternative is unthinkable.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2024 12:46     Subject: I hate Trump, but I get why a huge part of middle America loves him
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because they are woefully uneducated, under the influence of cultish religion, and resent their lot in life.
Others? They like tax breaks and the supposed wealth he represents.


They are deplorable, but inhave to give them a credit - they are nit hateful like democrats. So much hate in OPs post, I truly doubt the level of her or his education.


Jesus Christ dude. Go anywhere you hear MAGA talking about liberals and you’d have to be deaf to think they aren’t hateful. But I also think you are perfectly aware of what Trump supporters say about liberals and you’re just a liar.


You can find thousands of posts here stating "I hate Trump". There is no single one saying "I hate Biden". People pity him, feel sorry for him for what he has done to the country and to his own children but no one hates him. I was listening to a lot of Trump's speeches. I can't recall him stating anything about hating liberals.


You’re right. Trump is just a stand up guy. That whole mocking a reporter for being mentally disabled- it was just a joke!

Obvious /s
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2024 09:35     Subject: Re:I hate Trump, but I get why a huge part of middle America loves him
Anonymous wrote:when I worked at a biglaw firm in new York (Sheppard mullin), the partners provided pro bono legal services to a Venezuelan migrant who was clearly lying to get asylum

she claimed their phone was being monitored by the authorities because she heard static, etc. She knew exactly what to say b/c she had been coached.

She then came to this country, never paid rent even though she had Gucci bags. The firm also represented her in housing court too so that she could get endless extensions

this is what most asylum claims are. the goal is just to come up with a story and get these people into the country, where they disappear and never show up to court

the biggest law firms in the world support this


When I was doing something the other day, I ran across an anecdote. I took that anecdote and pretended it was representative of the world generally.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2024 08:15     Subject: I hate Trump, but I get why a huge part of middle America loves him
Anonymous wrote:I'm a typical educated and wealthy DC-area striver. Atheist, support women's right to choose, value the diversity of cultures in this world, etc. I wouldn't say no to a tax cut, lol. I'm going to be good whoever gets elected.

We gotta face facts, though. Most of America is not like DC. It's hugely white, under-educated, under-employed people, who have been truly screwed over by progressive policies.

They have to compete with millions upon millions of lower cost illegal migrants flooding across the borders. They have been penalized by the color of their skin when applying to college and jobs. Suicide, depression, opioids, wars they have to fight and die in...it has gotten quite bad.

Once upon a time, democrats valued this massive part of America. Do they still? Can they?




This is basically the Cliff Notes version of what Bill Maher has been saying for years.

I’ll add another layer - I was in multiple Walmarts in Delaware in the fall (searching for something very specific), and I observed the same thing each time: a smattering of black and white longtime DE locals who were visibly annoyed (at best) or almost confused at the overwhelming numbers of Spanish-speaking newcomers at every turn. All the local churches had flipped to Spanish as well. Imagine living in a small town that has completely shifted in terms of demographics. Hint: it’s far more noticeable in smaller areas than places like the dc metro area.

If you don’t think that change will impact votes, then I suspect you’ll get a big wake-up call in November.

FTR, I’m a Dem who will never vote R no matter what…but I see the writing on the wall.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2024 06:55     Subject: I hate Trump, but I get why a huge part of middle America loves him
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because they are woefully uneducated, under the influence of cultish religion, and resent their lot in life.
Others? They like tax breaks and the supposed wealth he represents.


They are deplorable, but inhave to give them a credit - they are nit hateful like democrats. So much hate in OPs post, I truly doubt the level of her or his education.


Jesus Christ dude. Go anywhere you hear MAGA talking about liberals and you’d have to be deaf to think they aren’t hateful. But I also think you are perfectly aware of what Trump supporters say about liberals and you’re just a liar.


You can find thousands of posts here stating "I hate Trump". There is no single one saying "I hate Biden". People pity him, feel sorry for him for what he has done to the country and to his own children but no one hates him. I was listening to a lot of Trump's speeches. I can't recall him stating anything about hating liberals.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2024 11:45     Subject: I hate Trump, but I get why a huge part of middle America loves him
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The MAGA extremists and the progressive extremists are all extremely unpleasant and nasty people. There is no sense arguing about who is worse.

BoThSiDeS!


I mean, it’s true. There is very little difference between the leftists openly supporting Hamas, including overtly cheering on the sexual torture of Jewish girls, and the very fine people who marched in Charleston. They are all profoundly evil people.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2024 06:52     Subject: I hate Trump, but I get why a huge part of middle America loves him
Anonymous wrote:The MAGA extremists and the progressive extremists are all extremely unpleasant and nasty people. There is no sense arguing about who is worse.

BoThSiDeS!
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2024 01:55     Subject: I hate Trump, but I get why a huge part of middle America loves him
The MAGA extremists and the progressive extremists are all extremely unpleasant and nasty people. There is no sense arguing about who is worse.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2024 00:45     Subject: I hate Trump, but I get why a huge part of middle America loves him
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because they are woefully uneducated, under the influence of cultish religion, and resent their lot in life.
Others? They like tax breaks and the supposed wealth he represents.


They are deplorable, but inhave to give them a credit - they are nit hateful like democrats. So much hate in OPs post, I truly doubt the level of her or his education.


Jesus Christ dude. Go anywhere you hear MAGA talking about liberals and you’d have to be deaf to think they aren’t hateful. But I also think you are perfectly aware of what Trump supporters say about liberals and you’re just a liar.


MAGAs are a hateful bunch.



Not nearly as hateful as progressive liberals, though.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2024 00:08     Subject: I hate Trump, but I get why a huge part of middle America loves him
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because they are woefully uneducated, under the influence of cultish religion, and resent their lot in life.
Others? They like tax breaks and the supposed wealth he represents.


They are deplorable, but inhave to give them a credit - they are nit hateful like democrats. So much hate in OPs post, I truly doubt the level of her or his education.


Jesus Christ dude. Go anywhere you hear MAGA talking about liberals and you’d have to be deaf to think they aren’t hateful. But I also think you are perfectly aware of what Trump supporters say about liberals and you’re just a liar.


MAGAs are a hateful bunch.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2024 20:25     Subject: I hate Trump, but I get why a huge part of middle America loves him
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because they are woefully uneducated, under the influence of cultish religion, and resent their lot in life.
Others? They like tax breaks and the supposed wealth he represents.


As if Democrats don't also have a woefully uneducated base?


No, they are statistically not undereducated.


Democrats have some very bright, well educated voters. They also have a large subset who aren't.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2024 20:22     Subject: I hate Trump, but I get why a huge part of middle America loves him
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because they are woefully uneducated, under the influence of cultish religion, and resent their lot in life.
Others? They like tax breaks and the supposed wealth he represents.


As if Democrats don't also have a woefully uneducated base?


No, they are statistically not undereducated.


Perhaps not, but at this point seeing the quality of their educations, I think it’s hard to argue they have benefited from them.