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Anonymous wrote:There should be Nuremberg type trials for this whole debacle. I will never forget what they did.

Same - we can never EVER forget this.

You are mental.

Yeah, okay. Go live in China. You love your lockdowns.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok. I think they made the best decisions with the information they had at the time. We will be better prepared for the next pandemic.

No one will listen to public health officials during the next pandemic.

+1. It's already happening with childhood vaccinations. Covid vaccines were pushed and pushed, with the effectiveness vastly overstated, and public health officials wonder why parents now are looking askew at other vaccines. Unfortunately vital vaccines that have truly changed life expectancy like measles and polio.

Good job, public health!

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Anonymous wrote:I still have no clue why all the playgrounds got fenced off and closed. WHY?!

We tried very hard to keep things normal for our small kids, but as parents we paid a heavy price. I changed a lot as a parent and also as a person. I had a great life beforehand filled with friends and relatives. It made me realize that you can't rely on anyone. Grandparents just huddled in their houses by themselves while kids had mental breakdown and parents nearly lost their jobs.

Yes I was changed as a person too. Became pretty jaded. My kid, surprisingly, did better - but I would never dream of denying that some kids were deeply affected.
As for the playgrounds - those in power had to “do something” and it was the easiest thing to do.

People were dying and your biggest worry was playgrounds. You can get a $100-200 swing set for your backyard. No backyard, go to a friends house.

Kids couldn't go to the playground, but hordes of people could gather en masse for BLM protests. With the explicit permission of public health officials.

See why some of us are jaded?

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Anonymous wrote:Ok. I think they made the best decisions with the information they had at the time. We will be better prepared for the next pandemic.

No one will listen to public health officials during the next pandemic.

I will because I understand what they’re working with. I also assessed my level of risk and adjusted accordingly.

Anonymous wrote:Ok. I think they made the best decisions with the information they had at the time. We will be better prepared for the next pandemic.

We have a SARS-like disease. Should you wear a mask? Initially, we were told no--They just don't know. Then, they said, you should wear a cloth mask. OK, OK, two cloth masks. Hey, remember when we said cloth masks work, well, we meant N95. If you want extra protection wear a cloth mask over the N95. No, wait a minute, that's dumb, just an N95 correctly fitted is fine.

This guidance was from experts in disease transmission. Why weren't we just told to wear N95s? Fear of shortages, because the government failed to restock after the 2009 flu pandemic. It wasn't a health policy decision; it was purely a political decision. The government doesn't make mistakes.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/why-were-running-out-of-masks-in-the-coronavirus-crisis/609757/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-coronavirus-masks/

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Anonymous wrote:Ok. I think they made the best decisions with the information they had at the time. We will be better prepared for the next pandemic.

No one will listen to public health officials during the next pandemic.

Yep, they effectively played politics with public health policy whereby certain stakeholders were winners and got to do what they wanted, while certain stakeholders were shutdown in order to balance that out. The initial strategy to "flatten the curve" in the very short term to figure out hospital logistics made sense but then they continued punishing certain stakeholders per above. And next time, nobody will pay attention besides people like the poster in this thread who thrives in that isolationist lifestyle. You could see that with monkeypox. The collective reaction was a shrug of the shoulders and telling them to STFU.

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Anonymous wrote:Keeping public schools closed for an extra year - while private schools and restaurants and retail and etc were open - was a giant mistake.

And I will never forgive progressives and teachers unions for throwing kids under the bus like that

You are right, they should have kept them all closed/virtual. Imagine if they did how many lives could have been saved. So, some of us did our part while the rest of you lived life as normal, spreading it to the rest of us and killing our family members. Thank you. Really appreciate your kindness and empathy.

How did you do your part? By outsourcing all your home services (food, utilities, infrastructure, etc.) to others out in public while you WFH or SHM?

Anonymous wrote:Ok. I think they made the best decisions with the information they had at the time. We will be better prepared for the next pandemic.

No one will listen to public health officials during the next pandemic.

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Anonymous wrote:I still have no clue why all the playgrounds got fenced off and closed. WHY?!

We tried very hard to keep things normal for our small kids, but as parents we paid a heavy price. I changed a lot as a parent and also as a person. I had a great life beforehand filled with friends and relatives. It made me realize that you can't rely on anyone. Grandparents just huddled in their houses by themselves while kids had mental breakdown and parents nearly lost their jobs.

Yes I was changed as a person too. Became pretty jaded. My kid, surprisingly, did better - but I would never dream of denying that some kids were deeply affected.
As for the playgrounds - those in power had to “do something” and it was the easiest thing to do.

People were dying and your biggest worry was playgrounds. You can get a $100-200 swing set for your backyard. No backyard, go to a friends house.

Literally no one was dying of covid from open playgrounds. Don't be ridiculous.

Yes, I sent my kids (teens) to the park to meet with friends during the whole lockdown. They had to see friends. No one got Covid.

Ok. I think they made the best decisions with the information they had at the time. We will be better prepared for the next pandemic.

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Anonymous wrote:I still have no clue why all the playgrounds got fenced off and closed. WHY?!

We tried very hard to keep things normal for our small kids, but as parents we paid a heavy price. I changed a lot as a parent and also as a person. I had a great life beforehand filled with friends and relatives. It made me realize that you can't rely on anyone. Grandparents just huddled in their houses by themselves while kids had mental breakdown and parents nearly lost their jobs.

Yes I was changed as a person too. Became pretty jaded. My kid, surprisingly, did better - but I would never dream of denying that some kids were deeply affected.
As for the playgrounds - those in power had to “do something” and it was the easiest thing to do.

People were dying and your biggest worry was playgrounds. You can get a $100-200 swing set for your backyard. No backyard, go to a friends house.

Oh sweetie go check on your kids and their virtual school! Oh wait they actually rebelled and went in person?

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Anonymous wrote:It would be great to have a non-partisan assessment of what worked and what didn’t work. Everything is so politicized and polarized it is ridiculous.

I think one important lesson is that schools stayed closed far too long, and we are paying a heavy price for that.

The kids paid a heavy price, and their parents. The people who made these decisions aren't paying anything and will never be held accountable.

You keep forgetting to mention the teachers who might have refused to go to work or quit if they had been forced back. Who was going to do the teaching? Why do you expect people to sacrifice for you?

This is the latest Democratic spin. “Oh we could not have opened schools! Teachers would have quit!” Do you think we are idiots? In DC right here, private and parochial teachers returnee. They returned in other states and in countries around the world. The reason blue city teachers refused to return is that their unions had political support and the Dems turned “keep schools closed” into a campaign promise, which is absolutely deranged. And then cowed public opinion by labeling any parent who dissented as a racist teacher-killer. Not to mention exaggerating the risk. We lived through it sweetie - we know what happened.

And yet, you still come on here and spew nonsense. Somewhere in the middle is the truth, but you are to busy foaming and the mouth about "Dems" to ever see it. Seek therapy. Truly.

Do you think Democrats that critize the Democratic establishment don’t exist?

Of course, there are (many) people who register as Democrats who criticize the Dem leadership. However, most of us aren't interested in listening to raving. If you can calm down and come back with reasoned opinions, we might be interested in listening. But you are just another blustering fool.

We aren’t interested in your raving either.

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Anonymous wrote:I still have no clue why all the playgrounds got fenced off and closed. WHY?!

We tried very hard to keep things normal for our small kids, but as parents we paid a heavy price. I changed a lot as a parent and also as a person. I had a great life beforehand filled with friends and relatives. It made me realize that you can't rely on anyone. Grandparents just huddled in their houses by themselves while kids had mental breakdown and parents nearly lost their jobs.

Yes I was changed as a person too. Became pretty jaded. My kid, surprisingly, did better - but I would never dream of denying that some kids were deeply affected.
As for the playgrounds - those in power had to “do something” and it was the easiest thing to do.

People were dying and your biggest worry was playgrounds. You can get a $100-200 swing set for your backyard. No backyard, go to a friends house.

Literally no one was dying of covid from open playgrounds. Don't be ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:Keeping public schools closed for an extra year - while private schools and restaurants and retail and etc were open - was a giant mistake.

And I will never forgive progressives and teachers unions for throwing kids under the bus like that

You are right, they should have kept them all closed/virtual. Imagine if they did how many lives could have been saved. So, some of us did our part while the rest of you lived life as normal, spreading it to the rest of us and killing our family members. Thank you. Really appreciate your kindness and empathy.

DP. You can’t possibly be serious.

Anonymous wrote:Keeping public schools closed for an extra year - while private schools and restaurants and retail and etc were open - was a giant mistake.

And I will never forgive progressives and teachers unions for throwing kids under the bus like that

You are right, they should have kept them all closed/virtual. Imagine if they did how many lives could have been saved. So, some of us did our part while the rest of you lived life as normal, spreading it to the rest of us and killing our family members. Thank you. Really appreciate your kindness and empathy.