Anonymous
Post 10/24/2023 08:22     Subject: Chances of VA House of Del flipping Dem?

equity efforts in schools is enough for me to vote R.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2023 08:14     Subject: Chances of VA House of Del flipping Dem?

Please explain in detail the Rs plan for any of the issues you claim to care about.

They honestly have done Jack anywhere else, but sure, in VA, it will be different /s
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2023 08:11     Subject: Chances of VA House of Del flipping Dem?

I say again, trusting Rs on ANYTHING is deeply stupid
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2023 08:06     Subject: Chances of VA House of Del flipping Dem?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:According to the Washington Post polls, abortion is the second least important issues to voters after trans issues as the least important issue.

Democrats running on culture wars may not play out how they think it will.


Trans issues were a distant last place of issues voters care about

Voters trust Democrats more than Republicans by a 6-point margin.

Republicans care about crime because they think the mean streets of Warrenton are unsafe. But there just aren’t that many Republicans anymore.

Abortion is a massive issue for Democrats and all women (including Republican women and independents).

So, sure. Bring it.


On education I meant to say
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2023 08:04     Subject: Chances of VA House of Del flipping Dem?

Anonymous wrote:According to the Washington Post polls, abortion is the second least important issues to voters after trans issues as the least important issue.

Democrats running on culture wars may not play out how they think it will.


Trans issues were a distant last place of issues voters care about

Voters trust Democrats more than Republicans by a 6-point margin.

Republicans care about crime because they think the mean streets of Warrenton are unsafe. But there just aren’t that many Republicans anymore.

Abortion is a massive issue for Democrats and all women (including Republican women and independents).

So, sure. Bring it.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2023 07:47     Subject: Re:Chances of VA House of Del flipping Dem?

Anonymous wrote:Republicans proposed this bill to ban all abortions THIS YEAR (2023).

https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?231+vot+HV1622+HB1954
SB 1284 Abortion; prohibited, exceptions, penalty.
Introduced by: T. Travis Hackworth
SUMMARY AS INTRODUCED:
Abortion prohibited; exceptions; penalty. Provides that life begins at conception and no abortion is authorized or shall be performed on an unborn child except when (i) a physician determines, in reasonable medical judgment, that a medical emergency exists, defined in the bill such that the abortion is performed to save the life of the mother, or (ii) the probable gestational age of the unborn child is 20 weeks or less and the pregnancy is the result of rape or incest in which an official police report has been filed alleging the offense of rape or incest and such abortion is performed by a licensed physician in a hospital. The bill provides that any person who performs an unlawful abortion is guilty of a Class 4 felony.
2023 SESSION
SB 1284 Abortion; prohibited, exceptions, penalty.
SENATE PATRONS
T. Travis Hackworth (chief patron)
Stephen D. Newman (chief co-patron)
Amanda F. Chase
Mark D. Obenshain
Mark J. Peake
Bryce E. Reeves
William M. Stanley, Jr.



Virginia Republicans are a real and imminent threat to women. The Ds only have control of the Senate by 2 seats.



Not a single comment about this. Rs want to hide the fact that they are actively trying to oppress women in VA.

That’s why the Rs here keep deflecting with books from high school libraries.

They have zero defense for the Republican state legislature candidates. They know if the Rs take full control that they will come after women’s rights and the Ds won’t be there to block them.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2023 07:31     Subject: Chances of VA House of Del flipping Dem?

Anonymous wrote:According to the Washington Post polls, abortion is the second least important issues to voters after trans issues as the least important issue.

Democrats running on culture wars may not play out how they think it will.


Republicans are pushing “culture wars” by attacking LGBTQ youth, anti-racism, etc.

Republicans attacking women goes way beyond that. It’s going to backfire.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2023 07:28     Subject: Chances of VA House of Del flipping Dem?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry but if the R’s push through a complete ban it won’t last long at all.

I’m voting R this year and it feels weird. The local Dem officials think they can govern incompetently with 0 impunity


You’re voting R for state legislature to spite local Ds?

And willing to throw away women’s rights to do so?

This whole “you have to vote for all Ds or else you are voting to throw away women’s rights” argument is tiresome. Here’s a thought, maybe Ds should take a look in the mirror and realize their stances on crime and schools aren’t popular and adjust accordingly, instead of relying on guilting voters into supporting them based solely on the abortion issue.


That’s your big problem: Democrats’ “stances on crime and school” are PLENTY popular. And the results of elections around the country since Dobbs shows emphatically that abortion is the overriding concern for voters.

Moreover, the fear-based crime messaging only works on uneducated voters. Voters here roll their eyes at the suggestion that there’s a crime problem in the mean streets of Warrenton or Culpeper or Lorton or wherever.

Keep telling yourself that the way Dems are handling crime is popular. Loudoun County parents love the direction their schools have taken too. My town doesn’t have a crime problem, and I don’t want the streets of my town/county to become like DC or even MoCo, so I’m fine with keeping the status quo at our local level with Rs. But keep pushing the abortion issue as the single issue that voters should base their decision on.
-signed an educated voter with a law degree


Thanks, I will. Because it’s the winning issue.

You go on believing phantom menaces if you need to.

My house/ex’s household have already produced 8 votes for Dems in Loudoun. That is me, my two college age children who came home to vote early, my girlfriend, my ex and her boyfriend and his two adult children.

The Republican messaging here is a complete loser.

Crime isn’t a problem, we know full well this is about abortion and Youngkin’s future political ambitions, and we intend to take back our public schools from the lunatics obsessed with marginalizing at-risk students and banning books.


So it’s pretty important to you that books depicting graphic illustrations of boy to adult oral sex be made available to children in *school* libraries rather than accessible at Barnes & Noble or available to be checked out at the public library? Because that’s what we’re taking about here, right? That’s the “banned books” rhetoric …
Get as much porn into schools as possible because why have any expectation that books chosen for school libraries should be porn-free?


Yes, I'm 100% ok with that.

And your hyperbole about "porn" is ridiculous. You know that, you just argue everything in bad faith. We see you clearly.


Jesus. Talk about "seeing YOU clearly" - there is no hyperbole about porn. And no one is "banning" these books. They're all available at your local public library or book store, or Amazon. You'll always be able to do porn storytime with your kids, no worries. Making sure our public school libraries have appropriate reading material is not "banning" anything. But you know that. Thanks for showing - yet again - your true colors.
DP


It’s not porn. No matter how many times you push those Republican lies.


It certainly is. No matter how many times you Democrats continue to gaslight us. Why weren't parents allowed to read aloud from these books in school board meetings? Why are the graphically sexual images in these books deleted from this site when they're posted? We'll wait while you spin something up.


No, it’s not porn. Stop being deliberately obtuse.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/pornography
Pornography–"porn" or "porno" for short–is material that depicts nudity or sexual acts for the purpose of sexual stimulation. However, the presence of nudity or sexual acts in piece of media does not necessarily make that media pornographic if the purpose of that media form is something other than sexual stimulation

If you actually read the books you’d know they weren’t intended for sexual stimulation.

And what is appropriate for a high school student is different than what’s appropriate for a kindergartner. You can’t post the word beetch on DCUM. That’s not really a test of anything.


Please post the image in question here. I would like to see it for myself.


You are perfectly welcome to google the images in question. I'm not about to post it here and then get banned for doing so. Knock yourself out.


Wait - what??!?

You just spent several paragraphs explaining it is NOT porn and appropriate for public school libraries.

If it is not porn, why are you afraid of posting it here? You make no sense at all. Somebody please post it so we can all see it is not porn.


There are multiple people posting.

Stop being obtuse. This has been explained multiple times. Jeff has strict rules around content for his advertising. You can't even post the word "b i t c h". You going to ban all books that include that word in them?

It's not porn. We all know it. The Republicans continue to push this lie to deflect from the fact that they are trying to take away basic rights from women (and LGBTQ). They hope that some rubes will just believe what they say without actually reading the books. I don't know why anyone would believe a word that Rs say. Youngkin even admits that he can't be honest during an election.


It’s not porn, but it cannot be posted on a discussion board for adults ? - and it absolutely must be available to children???

You are obviously a D. And you make zero sense.


There are a lot of things that can't be posted here. That's not the test of anything. Again, deliberately obtuse.

And it's available to teens in the library in some HSs.




Teens in public school can see it, but it cannot be posted here??

At least post a link so parents can see the image you keep arguing about.

At this point, I’m not sure what Google search terms would bring up the image you are defending.


I'm not "arguing" about an image - I'm supporting librarians who have chosen various books depicting the journeys of LGBTQ self discovery. None of these books contain "porn".

If you have no idea what is being discussed, maybe try searching on "Republicans attack books about LGBTQ youth as wedge issue to deflect from their attacks on women"?


Seems like YOU have chosen this book to argue about. At least show us what the issue is. Why can’t you post the image? Or even post a link to the image??

Why all the secrecy?? (It strongly suggests you are hiding something / being dishonest here).


+1
It's called gaslighting. This PP thinks no one's actually going to look for the pictures in question, so she just continues to gaslight about their contents. Classic Democrat.


I challenge anyone who questions these books to actually read them.

Be informed instead of pushing propaganda.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2023 07:26     Subject: Re:Chances of VA House of Del flipping Dem?

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I could care less about your uterus, and I am a woman who has spent her entire adult life having women play the uterus card every single Election Day. I care about my DC's schools and the downfall of the quality of education they are receiving as I cannot afford private school nor am I able to help adult DC pay for private school at some point. Second to this, crime and financial security. Those are my issues and that is what I am voting on, can't afford to waste another vote on women's issues.


Abortion has never been so important now that the Republicans have reversed RvW against the will of the people. This is a critical vote for women in VA.

You’re going to hear way more about abortion if the VA Republicans take control.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2023 06:21     Subject: Chances of VA House of Del flipping Dem?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry but if the R’s push through a complete ban it won’t last long at all.

I’m voting R this year and it feels weird. The local Dem officials think they can govern incompetently with 0 impunity


You’re voting R for state legislature to spite local Ds?

And willing to throw away women’s rights to do so?

This whole “you have to vote for all Ds or else you are voting to throw away women’s rights” argument is tiresome. Here’s a thought, maybe Ds should take a look in the mirror and realize their stances on crime and schools aren’t popular and adjust accordingly, instead of relying on guilting voters into supporting them based solely on the abortion issue.


That’s your big problem: Democrats’ “stances on crime and school” are PLENTY popular. And the results of elections around the country since Dobbs shows emphatically that abortion is the overriding concern for voters.

Moreover, the fear-based crime messaging only works on uneducated voters. Voters here roll their eyes at the suggestion that there’s a crime problem in the mean streets of Warrenton or Culpeper or Lorton or wherever.

Keep telling yourself that the way Dems are handling crime is popular. Loudoun County parents love the direction their schools have taken too. My town doesn’t have a crime problem, and I don’t want the streets of my town/county to become like DC or even MoCo, so I’m fine with keeping the status quo at our local level with Rs. But keep pushing the abortion issue as the single issue that voters should base their decision on.
-signed an educated voter with a law degree


Thanks, I will. Because it’s the winning issue.

You go on believing phantom menaces if you need to.

My house/ex’s household have already produced 8 votes for Dems in Loudoun. That is me, my two college age children who came home to vote early, my girlfriend, my ex and her boyfriend and his two adult children.

The Republican messaging here is a complete loser.

Crime isn’t a problem, we know full well this is about abortion and Youngkin’s future political ambitions, and we intend to take back our public schools from the lunatics obsessed with marginalizing at-risk students and banning books.


So it’s pretty important to you that books depicting graphic illustrations of boy to adult oral sex be made available to children in *school* libraries rather than accessible at Barnes & Noble or available to be checked out at the public library? Because that’s what we’re taking about here, right? That’s the “banned books” rhetoric …
Get as much porn into schools as possible because why have any expectation that books chosen for school libraries should be porn-free?


Yes, I'm 100% ok with that.

And your hyperbole about "porn" is ridiculous. You know that, you just argue everything in bad faith. We see you clearly.


Jesus. Talk about "seeing YOU clearly" - there is no hyperbole about porn. And no one is "banning" these books. They're all available at your local public library or book store, or Amazon. You'll always be able to do porn storytime with your kids, no worries. Making sure our public school libraries have appropriate reading material is not "banning" anything. But you know that. Thanks for showing - yet again - your true colors.
DP


It’s not porn. No matter how many times you push those Republican lies.


It certainly is. No matter how many times you Democrats continue to gaslight us. Why weren't parents allowed to read aloud from these books in school board meetings? Why are the graphically sexual images in these books deleted from this site when they're posted? We'll wait while you spin something up.


No, it’s not porn. Stop being deliberately obtuse.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/pornography
Pornography–"porn" or "porno" for short–is material that depicts nudity or sexual acts for the purpose of sexual stimulation. However, the presence of nudity or sexual acts in piece of media does not necessarily make that media pornographic if the purpose of that media form is something other than sexual stimulation

If you actually read the books you’d know they weren’t intended for sexual stimulation.

And what is appropriate for a high school student is different than what’s appropriate for a kindergartner. You can’t post the word beetch on DCUM. That’s not really a test of anything.


Please post the image in question here. I would like to see it for myself.


You are perfectly welcome to google the images in question. I'm not about to post it here and then get banned for doing so. Knock yourself out.


Wait - what??!?

You just spent several paragraphs explaining it is NOT porn and appropriate for public school libraries.

If it is not porn, why are you afraid of posting it here? You make no sense at all. Somebody please post it so we can all see it is not porn.


There are multiple people posting.

Stop being obtuse. This has been explained multiple times. Jeff has strict rules around content for his advertising. You can't even post the word "b i t c h". You going to ban all books that include that word in them?

It's not porn. We all know it. The Republicans continue to push this lie to deflect from the fact that they are trying to take away basic rights from women (and LGBTQ). They hope that some rubes will just believe what they say without actually reading the books. I don't know why anyone would believe a word that Rs say. Youngkin even admits that he can't be honest during an election.


It’s not porn, but it cannot be posted on a discussion board for adults ? - and it absolutely must be available to children???

You are obviously a D. And you make zero sense.


There are a lot of things that can't be posted here. That's not the test of anything. Again, deliberately obtuse.

And it's available to teens in the library in some HSs.




Teens in public school can see it, but it cannot be posted here??

At least post a link so parents can see the image you keep arguing about.

At this point, I’m not sure what Google search terms would bring up the image you are defending.


I'm not "arguing" about an image - I'm supporting librarians who have chosen various books depicting the journeys of LGBTQ self discovery. None of these books contain "porn".

If you have no idea what is being discussed, maybe try searching on "Republicans attack books about LGBTQ youth as wedge issue to deflect from their attacks on women"?


DP. Actually, here's a link that should set the record straight. I'm sure you'll enjoy the porn depicted here.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/


That is really disturbing.

Warning: Definitely NSFW.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2023 00:20     Subject: Chances of VA House of Del flipping Dem?

Anonymous wrote:According to the Washington Post polls, abortion is the second least important issues to voters after trans issues as the least important issue.

Democrats running on culture wars may not play out how they think it will.


Q5b. Will abortion be very important, fairly important, not too important or not at all important in your vote for the Virginia legislature this year?

80% important


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Post 10/23/2023 22:47     Subject: Chances of VA House of Del flipping Dem?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry but if the R’s push through a complete ban it won’t last long at all.

I’m voting R this year and it feels weird. The local Dem officials think they can govern incompetently with 0 impunity


You’re voting R for state legislature to spite local Ds?

And willing to throw away women’s rights to do so?

This whole “you have to vote for all Ds or else you are voting to throw away women’s rights” argument is tiresome. Here’s a thought, maybe Ds should take a look in the mirror and realize their stances on crime and schools aren’t popular and adjust accordingly, instead of relying on guilting voters into supporting them based solely on the abortion issue.


That’s your big problem: Democrats’ “stances on crime and school” are PLENTY popular. And the results of elections around the country since Dobbs shows emphatically that abortion is the overriding concern for voters.

Moreover, the fear-based crime messaging only works on uneducated voters. Voters here roll their eyes at the suggestion that there’s a crime problem in the mean streets of Warrenton or Culpeper or Lorton or wherever.

Keep telling yourself that the way Dems are handling crime is popular. Loudoun County parents love the direction their schools have taken too. My town doesn’t have a crime problem, and I don’t want the streets of my town/county to become like DC or even MoCo, so I’m fine with keeping the status quo at our local level with Rs. But keep pushing the abortion issue as the single issue that voters should base their decision on.
-signed an educated voter with a law degree


Thanks, I will. Because it’s the winning issue.

You go on believing phantom menaces if you need to.

My house/ex’s household have already produced 8 votes for Dems in Loudoun. That is me, my two college age children who came home to vote early, my girlfriend, my ex and her boyfriend and his two adult children.

The Republican messaging here is a complete loser.

Crime isn’t a problem, we know full well this is about abortion and Youngkin’s future political ambitions, and we intend to take back our public schools from the lunatics obsessed with marginalizing at-risk students and banning books.


So it’s pretty important to you that books depicting graphic illustrations of boy to adult oral sex be made available to children in *school* libraries rather than accessible at Barnes & Noble or available to be checked out at the public library? Because that’s what we’re taking about here, right? That’s the “banned books” rhetoric …
Get as much porn into schools as possible because why have any expectation that books chosen for school libraries should be porn-free?


Yes, I'm 100% ok with that.

And your hyperbole about "porn" is ridiculous. You know that, you just argue everything in bad faith. We see you clearly.


Jesus. Talk about "seeing YOU clearly" - there is no hyperbole about porn. And no one is "banning" these books. They're all available at your local public library or book store, or Amazon. You'll always be able to do porn storytime with your kids, no worries. Making sure our public school libraries have appropriate reading material is not "banning" anything. But you know that. Thanks for showing - yet again - your true colors.
DP


It’s not porn. No matter how many times you push those Republican lies.


It certainly is. No matter how many times you Democrats continue to gaslight us. Why weren't parents allowed to read aloud from these books in school board meetings? Why are the graphically sexual images in these books deleted from this site when they're posted? We'll wait while you spin something up.


No, it’s not porn. Stop being deliberately obtuse.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/pornography
Pornography–"porn" or "porno" for short–is material that depicts nudity or sexual acts for the purpose of sexual stimulation. However, the presence of nudity or sexual acts in piece of media does not necessarily make that media pornographic if the purpose of that media form is something other than sexual stimulation

If you actually read the books you’d know they weren’t intended for sexual stimulation.

And what is appropriate for a high school student is different than what’s appropriate for a kindergartner. You can’t post the word beetch on DCUM. That’s not really a test of anything.


Please post the image in question here. I would like to see it for myself.


You are perfectly welcome to google the images in question. I'm not about to post it here and then get banned for doing so. Knock yourself out.


Wait - what??!?

You just spent several paragraphs explaining it is NOT porn and appropriate for public school libraries.

If it is not porn, why are you afraid of posting it here? You make no sense at all. Somebody please post it so we can all see it is not porn.


There are multiple people posting.

Stop being obtuse. This has been explained multiple times. Jeff has strict rules around content for his advertising. You can't even post the word "b i t c h". You going to ban all books that include that word in them?

It's not porn. We all know it. The Republicans continue to push this lie to deflect from the fact that they are trying to take away basic rights from women (and LGBTQ). They hope that some rubes will just believe what they say without actually reading the books. I don't know why anyone would believe a word that Rs say. Youngkin even admits that he can't be honest during an election.


Are the site’s advertisers republicans???
Anonymous
Post 10/23/2023 22:12     Subject: Chances of VA House of Del flipping Dem?

You will do better trying to get the dems to tighten up their message. They have become so offended by everything that they lost abortion. Shameful after all the work done for so long.
Anonymous
Post 10/23/2023 22:10     Subject: Chances of VA House of Del flipping Dem?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry but if the R’s push through a complete ban it won’t last long at all.

I’m voting R this year and it feels weird. The local Dem officials think they can govern incompetently with 0 impunity


You’re voting R for state legislature to spite local Ds?

And willing to throw away women’s rights to do so?

This whole “you have to vote for all Ds or else you are voting to throw away women’s rights” argument is tiresome. Here’s a thought, maybe Ds should take a look in the mirror and realize their stances on crime and schools aren’t popular and adjust accordingly, instead of relying on guilting voters into supporting them based solely on the abortion issue.


That’s your big problem: Democrats’ “stances on crime and school” are PLENTY popular. And the results of elections around the country since Dobbs shows emphatically that abortion is the overriding concern for voters.

Moreover, the fear-based crime messaging only works on uneducated voters. Voters here roll their eyes at the suggestion that there’s a crime problem in the mean streets of Warrenton or Culpeper or Lorton or wherever.

Keep telling yourself that the way Dems are handling crime is popular. Loudoun County parents love the direction their schools have taken too. My town doesn’t have a crime problem, and I don’t want the streets of my town/county to become like DC or even MoCo, so I’m fine with keeping the status quo at our local level with Rs. But keep pushing the abortion issue as the single issue that voters should base their decision on.
-signed an educated voter with a law degree


Thanks, I will. Because it’s the winning issue.

You go on believing phantom menaces if you need to.

My house/ex’s household have already produced 8 votes for Dems in Loudoun. That is me, my two college age children who came home to vote early, my girlfriend, my ex and her boyfriend and his two adult children.

The Republican messaging here is a complete loser.

Crime isn’t a problem, we know full well this is about abortion and Youngkin’s future political ambitions, and we intend to take back our public schools from the lunatics obsessed with marginalizing at-risk students and banning books.


So it’s pretty important to you that books depicting graphic illustrations of boy to adult oral sex be made available to children in *school* libraries rather than accessible at Barnes & Noble or available to be checked out at the public library? Because that’s what we’re taking about here, right? That’s the “banned books” rhetoric …
Get as much porn into schools as possible because why have any expectation that books chosen for school libraries should be porn-free?


Yes, I'm 100% ok with that.

And your hyperbole about "porn" is ridiculous. You know that, you just argue everything in bad faith. We see you clearly.


Jesus. Talk about "seeing YOU clearly" - there is no hyperbole about porn. And no one is "banning" these books. They're all available at your local public library or book store, or Amazon. You'll always be able to do porn storytime with your kids, no worries. Making sure our public school libraries have appropriate reading material is not "banning" anything. But you know that. Thanks for showing - yet again - your true colors.
DP


It’s not porn. No matter how many times you push those Republican lies.


It certainly is. No matter how many times you Democrats continue to gaslight us. Why weren't parents allowed to read aloud from these books in school board meetings? Why are the graphically sexual images in these books deleted from this site when they're posted? We'll wait while you spin something up.


No, it’s not porn. Stop being deliberately obtuse.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/pornography
Pornography–"porn" or "porno" for short–is material that depicts nudity or sexual acts for the purpose of sexual stimulation. However, the presence of nudity or sexual acts in piece of media does not necessarily make that media pornographic if the purpose of that media form is something other than sexual stimulation

If you actually read the books you’d know they weren’t intended for sexual stimulation.

And what is appropriate for a high school student is different than what’s appropriate for a kindergartner. You can’t post the word beetch on DCUM. That’s not really a test of anything.


Please post the image in question here. I would like to see it for myself.


You are perfectly welcome to google the images in question. I'm not about to post it here and then get banned for doing so. Knock yourself out.


Wait - what??!?

You just spent several paragraphs explaining it is NOT porn and appropriate for public school libraries.

If it is not porn, why are you afraid of posting it here? You make no sense at all. Somebody please post it so we can all see it is not porn.


There are multiple people posting.

Stop being obtuse. This has been explained multiple times. Jeff has strict rules around content for his advertising. You can't even post the word "b i t c h". You going to ban all books that include that word in them?

It's not porn. We all know it. The Republicans continue to push this lie to deflect from the fact that they are trying to take away basic rights from women (and LGBTQ). They hope that some rubes will just believe what they say without actually reading the books. I don't know why anyone would believe a word that Rs say. Youngkin even admits that he can't be honest during an election.


It’s not porn, but it cannot be posted on a discussion board for adults ? - and it absolutely must be available to children???

You are obviously a D. And you make zero sense.


There are a lot of things that can't be posted here. That's not the test of anything. Again, deliberately obtuse.

And it's available to teens in the library in some HSs.




Teens in public school can see it, but it cannot be posted here??

At least post a link so parents can see the image you keep arguing about.

At this point, I’m not sure what Google search terms would bring up the image you are defending.


I'm not "arguing" about an image - I'm supporting librarians who have chosen various books depicting the journeys of LGBTQ self discovery. None of these books contain "porn".

If you have no idea what is being discussed, maybe try searching on "Republicans attack books about LGBTQ youth as wedge issue to deflect from their attacks on women"?


DP. Actually, here's a link that should set the record straight. I'm sure you'll enjoy the porn depicted here.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/



Oh my, this is very disturbing. I had no idea and would not want my DC exposed to this without my prior knowledge and of course, age appropriateness.


+1
But according to the liberal gaslighters here, this is simply "storytelling."
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Post 10/23/2023 22:06     Subject: Re:Chances of VA House of Del flipping Dem?

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I could care less about your uterus, and I am a woman who has spent her entire adult life having women play the uterus card every single Election Day. I care about my DC's schools and the downfall of the quality of education they are receiving as I cannot afford private school nor am I able to help adult DC pay for private school at some point. Second to this, crime and financial security. Those are my issues and that is what I am voting on, can't afford to waste another vote on women's issues.