Anonymous
08/28/2023 15:41
Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who wants to bet $100 that more people will move in than out FL in 2023?
Because people have an idealized of "beach life" that is not really true. I won't go into all of the reasons why that is (they are well covered) but it has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the belief you'll be watching Manatees from the beach while sipping a Marg in the sun all day. . . . So, let's be honest about that.
But think of all the people driving around the dmv with their Florida plates. Those people count as living in Florida, right? Even though they clearly don’t. So how many people are domiciled in Florida for tax purposes, but don’t actually have to deal with the negative consequences of desantis’ idiocy?
Until you just said it, I hadn't realized it. But I do see this a fair amount. Cars with FLA plates in the DMV.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 15:18
Subject: Re:professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis
Anonymous wrote:
Isn’t this like a really small school though? So 40% faculty leaving is how many exactly?
I feel for the upperclassmen who signed up for a different school altogether, but this university kind of had a target on its back, if you didn’t know it was public the description is much more in line with a private liberal arts college.
Everyone knew it was public. It’s one of the only public small liberal arts colleges in the country and the only one in the state. It offers that experience for in-state tuition. You think people didn’t notice?
Anonymous
08/28/2023 14:32
Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who wants to bet $100 that more people will move in than out FL in 2023?
Because people have an idealized of "beach life" that is not really true. I won't go into all of the reasons why that is (they are well covered) but it has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the belief you'll be watching Manatees from the beach while sipping a Marg in the sun all day. . . . So, let's be honest about that.
But think of all the people driving around the dmv with their Florida plates. Those people count as living in Florida, right? Even though they clearly don’t. So how many people are domiciled in Florida for tax purposes, but don’t actually have to deal with the negative consequences of desantis’ idiocy?
retirees don't care about schools or abortion policies. They mostly care about low taxes and will gamble with a hurricane not destroying their homes.
At some point, though, it's going to be so expensive to insure a home in FL I'm not sure it's worth the no taxes.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 13:36
Subject: Re:professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis
Isn’t this like a really small school though? So 40% faculty leaving is how many exactly?
I feel for the upperclassmen who signed up for a different school altogether, but this university kind of had a target on its back, if you didn’t know it was public the description is much more in line with a private liberal arts college.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 13:32
Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who wants to bet $100 that more people will move in than out FL in 2023?
Because people have an idealized of "beach life" that is not really true. I won't go into all of the reasons why that is (they are well covered) but it has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the belief you'll be watching Manatees from the beach while sipping a Marg in the sun all day. . . . So, let's be honest about that.
dp... it's about the taxes and lower housing costs in a big metro area with lots of high paying jobs.
And you can see that playing out within Miami where people are leaving Miami because of the high housing costs.
https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/report-miami-dade-losing-more-residents-than-gaining/
We have all heard over the course of the last few years about the flood of people moving to South Florida, but it turns out Miami-Dade is losing more residents than it's gaining.
A new report shows this is the county's first population loss since 1970.
"All this discussion about new Yorkers, or Californians moving to Miami-Dade County although correct does not offset the number of people moving out of our area," said Maria Ilcheva, a research professor for the census information center at F.I.U. She said starting from the pandemic year the exodus started.
Figures from the U.S. Census reveal that 79,535 residents moved out of Miami-Dade County to other cities of Florida or other states from 2020 to 2022.
"The people who are moving out whether individuals or families are more in the middle-class spectrum," said Ilcheva, who said their conclusion was reached after carefully analyzing people tax declaration forms.
High rent and overpriced houses, along with other factors are pushing some to seek alternatives in Florida or elsewhere.
We see the exact thing playing out in expensive cities in CA. It's not about politics; it's about economics.
DP. I think it’s both. There are certainly other cheap, low-tax states retirees could snowbird or move entirely to instead, but they dont have Florida’s appeal. Of course then a hurricane arrives and obliterates your idyllic coastal community.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 12:52
Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who wants to bet $100 that more people will move in than out FL in 2023?
Because people have an idealized of "beach life" that is not really true. I won't go into all of the reasons why that is (they are well covered) but it has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the belief you'll be watching Manatees from the beach while sipping a Marg in the sun all day. . . . So, let's be honest about that.
But think of all the people driving around the dmv with their Florida plates. Those people count as living in Florida, right? Even though they clearly don’t. So how many people are domiciled in Florida for tax purposes, but don’t actually have to deal with the negative consequences of desantis’ idiocy?
Anonymous
08/28/2023 12:47
Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who wants to bet $100 that more people will move in than out FL in 2023?
Because people have an idealized of "beach life" that is not really true. I won't go into all of the reasons why that is (they are well covered) but it has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the belief you'll be watching Manatees from the beach while sipping a Marg in the sun all day. . . . So, let's be honest about that.
dp... it's about the taxes and lower housing costs in a big metro area with lots of high paying jobs.
And you can see that playing out within Miami where people are leaving Miami because of the high housing costs.
https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/report-miami-dade-losing-more-residents-than-gaining/
We have all heard over the course of the last few years about the flood of people moving to South Florida, but it turns out Miami-Dade is losing more residents than it's gaining.
A new report shows this is the county's first population loss since 1970.
"All this discussion about new Yorkers, or Californians moving to Miami-Dade County although correct does not offset the number of people moving out of our area," said Maria Ilcheva, a research professor for the census information center at F.I.U. She said starting from the pandemic year the exodus started.
Figures from the U.S. Census reveal that 79,535 residents moved out of Miami-Dade County to other cities of Florida or other states from 2020 to 2022.
"The people who are moving out whether individuals or families are more in the middle-class spectrum," said Ilcheva, who said their conclusion was reached after carefully analyzing people tax declaration forms.
High rent and overpriced houses, along with other factors are pushing some to seek alternatives in Florida or elsewhere.
We see the exact thing playing out in expensive cities in CA. It's not about politics; it's about economics.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 12:42
Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis
Anonymous wrote:Who wants to bet $100 that more people will move in than out FL in 2023?
Because people have an idealized of "beach life" that is not really true. I won't go into all of the reasons why that is (they are well covered) but it has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the belief you'll be watching Manatees from the beach while sipping a Marg in the sun all day. . . . So, let's be honest about that.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 12:41
Subject: Re:professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis
Desantis wants NCF (a *public* university) to be the “Hillsdale of the South”???? Hillsdale is super religious.
And it’s sad that these snowflakes need their own universities because they can’t handle being on “normal” campuses. College is a great place where differing views can/ should co-exist. Our country will suffer with more polarization if all college students only go to colleges that support their family’s beliefs.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 12:38
Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis
Anonymous wrote:Who wants to bet $100 that more people will move in than out FL in 2023?
That doesn’t mean it’s because all the incoming people like his policies. Many realize that politicians come and go, it if you want to move there to get closer to family or a lower cost of living, deSantis might not deter you.
In fact it would be better for more progressives to move to Florida. It was a swing state for a while and with some extremist moving there because of the school and healthcare policy decisions and progressives moving out, it’s swung much more to the right. Having more swing states is better for our country.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 12:08
Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All you progressive losers can leave Florida any time you want. There is a reason while progressive, high tax, high crime states like Mass, NY, NJ, Conn are all losing residents to Florida???! Just ask your neighbors or friends who live there. More than 25% of the people I knew in Mass are all looking to move out of there in the next few years due to high taxes and policies.
What's the opposite of progressive?
Sane.
+1
extremism is not sane, whether on the left or right.
You can’t bOtH sIdEs it when Florida is in danger of not having enough professors across a variety of fields.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 11:42
Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All you progressive losers can leave Florida any time you want. There is a reason while progressive, high tax, high crime states like Mass, NY, NJ, Conn are all losing residents to Florida???! Just ask your neighbors or friends who live there. More than 25% of the people I knew in Mass are all looking to move out of there in the next few years due to high taxes and policies.
What's the opposite of progressive?
Sane.
+1
extremism is not sane, whether on the left or right.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 11:11
Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All you progressive losers can leave Florida any time you want. There is a reason while progressive, high tax, high crime states like Mass, NY, NJ, Conn are all losing residents to Florida???! Just ask your neighbors or friends who live there. More than 25% of the people I knew in Mass are all looking to move out of there in the next few years due to high taxes and policies.
What's the opposite of progressive?
Sane.
Anonymous
Anonymous
08/16/2023 17:47
Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis
Anonymous wrote:All you progressive losers can leave Florida any time you want. There is a reason while progressive, high tax, high crime states like Mass, NY, NJ, Conn are all losing residents to Florida???! Just ask your neighbors or friends who live there. More than 25% of the people I knew in Mass are all looking to move out of there in the next few years due to high taxes and policies.
What's the opposite of progressive?