Anonymous
Post 07/21/2023 08:28     Subject: Capitol tryouts

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Anonymous wrote:Pride A is a better option than Capital B team. College coaches don’t want B level players.

That’s so not true. Capital B has better connections and better recruiting staff.


Fwiw, with the exception of 1 tournament his summer (where they were in the same bracket), the Pride 25s played in higher brackets than Capital Orange.


This is not true. Pride and Capital only play two of the same tournaments. One they played in the same bracket and the other pride played one bracket above and didn't fair well (the were originally slotted to play in the same bracket as orange and the two teams were supposed to play again, but katie moved their bracket so they didn't have to risk loosing to a B team). Orange plays in two invitational tournaments where there is heavy recruiting and Pride is not invited to attend so there is no comparing which level brackets they played in in those two tournaments. Finally, organge plays in a 5th tournament to maximize recruiting opportunity and pride does not. One of the tournaments pride plays in that orange does not attracts only B level college coaches.


Moving up a bracket because Pride was afraid to play a team they've already beaten is such a dumb argument I can't believe you aren't embarrassed you said it. I'll stand down if you can provide proof that Katie actually moved to not risk losing to a Capital Orange team. But you can't. Also the game was never on the Pride schedule. I think some Orange parent made this up for message board fodder. Also, which of the two tournaments that Pride played that Cap was absent was second class? Summer Genesis or MidAtlantic Club Championships? Explain please. M&D, Heros and Skywalkers were among the teams that attended both tournaments. B level college coaches? You just make stuff up.


This person also called out g8 as being an elite invitation that Pride was not worthy of. Well yjma goes to G8 but M&d does not. Ever think politics or logistics come into play? Or maybe clc is more elite than M&d thus the “snub.”


M&D stopped going to G8 and goes to Triple threat now. G8 is a YJ/STEPS tourney and that’s why M&D chose to stop going with the politics and conflicts.


This. 100% accurate. The fact that previous poster didn’t know this, had zero clue, just proves they aren’t a very knowledgeable lacrosse person. Maybe pipe down.


They didn't "stop" going, they were forced out. There's a long line of Steps/YJ vs Robinson Sports issues. M&D created a few of their own tournaments.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2023 08:27     Subject: Capitol tryouts

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Anonymous wrote:Pride A is a better option than Capital B team. College coaches don’t want B level players.

That’s so not true. Capital B has better connections and better recruiting staff.


Fwiw, with the exception of 1 tournament his summer (where they were in the same bracket), the Pride 25s played in higher brackets than Capital Orange.


This is not true. Pride and Capital only play two of the same tournaments. One they played in the same bracket and the other pride played one bracket above and didn't fair well (the were originally slotted to play in the same bracket as orange and the two teams were supposed to play again, but katie moved their bracket so they didn't have to risk loosing to a B team). Orange plays in two invitational tournaments where there is heavy recruiting and Pride is not invited to attend so there is no comparing which level brackets they played in in those two tournaments. Finally, organge plays in a 5th tournament to maximize recruiting opportunity and pride does not. One of the tournaments pride plays in that orange does not attracts only B level college coaches.


Moving up a bracket because Pride was afraid to play a team they've already beaten is such a dumb argument I can't believe you aren't embarrassed you said it. I'll stand down if you can provide proof that Katie actually moved to not risk losing to a Capital Orange team. But you can't. Also the game was never on the Pride schedule. I think some Orange parent made this up for message board fodder. Also, which of the two tournaments that Pride played that Cap was absent was second class? Summer Genesis or MidAtlantic Club Championships? Explain please. M&D, Heros and Skywalkers were among the teams that attended both tournaments. B level college coaches? You just make stuff up.


This person also called out g8 as being an elite invitation that Pride was not worthy of. Well yjma goes to G8 but M&d does not. Ever think politics or logistics come into play? Or maybe clc is more elite than M&d thus the “snub.”


It is an elite invitation only tournament and a huge one for recruiting. TJMA go because its ran by Steps-YJ. M&D does not go because they were banned for withdrawing one of their teams. Yes, politics is at play but its still an elite recruiting tournament, one most clubs like Pride aren't invited to.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2023 08:14     Subject: Capitol tryouts

I think it was stated earlier that coaches recruit players not teams. The constant arguing over which team is better is silly. If you are playing in a high bracket you will get looks. the top 5 teams in the country represent roughly 100 girls out of the 1,000 that will go D1. Quit blaming politics and everything else other than your DD skills and academics
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2023 07:53     Subject: Re:Capitol tryouts

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Anonymous wrote:I would also like to add that it seems as though Stars is coming and coming quickly for the number two spot behind Capital for high school. They have poured in a ton of resources and seem to be ready to be a great option.


Agree with this.


If by "resources" you mean purposefully placing all Stars girls on one of the two Capital teams because of the various deals and interconnections between SSSA, KJ, Capital and Stars, and less so based on actual lacrosse talent, then sure, they are resourceful.


This is something that has me puzzled. How can KJ and Stars be building a strong, recruitable high school team after happily preparing and advocating for their best players to move to Capital? Those goals seem to be in conflict. I get the marketing spin, “Stars LB is KJ / KC’a A team” but it seems like this is actually just Capital’s C team. For the sake of those girls I hope they are actually given the time and resources of an A level team.


Will be interesting to see how both Capital teams fare in light of this very obvious relationship. Can Capital retain their excellent reputation despite KJ being so present in the tryouts and placement of players? Time will tell if the Stars B team players who made Capitals can keep up.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2023 01:10     Subject: Capitol tryouts

Anonymous wrote:On other pages in this site, you still have Pride parents arguing who was better: Cap23 Blue or Pride23 Black? Now the argument from Pride faithful is that the Black 25 team is greater than or equal to Orange 25. What a change and dip in the program.


And now they are debating between 27 Black and if Stars will catch up. I spot a trend…
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2023 23:58     Subject: Capitol tryouts

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Pride A is a better option than Capital B team. College coaches don’t want B level players.

That’s so not true. Capital B has better connections and better recruiting staff.


Fwiw, with the exception of 1 tournament his summer (where they were in the same bracket), the Pride 25s played in higher brackets than Capital Orange.


This is not true. Pride and Capital only play two of the same tournaments. One they played in the same bracket and the other pride played one bracket above and didn't fair well (the were originally slotted to play in the same bracket as orange and the two teams were supposed to play again, but katie moved their bracket so they didn't have to risk loosing to a B team). Orange plays in two invitational tournaments where there is heavy recruiting and Pride is not invited to attend so there is no comparing which level brackets they played in in those two tournaments. Finally, organge plays in a 5th tournament to maximize recruiting opportunity and pride does not. One of the tournaments pride plays in that orange does not attracts only B level college coaches.


Moving up a bracket because Pride was afraid to play a team they've already beaten is such a dumb argument I can't believe you aren't embarrassed you said it. I'll stand down if you can provide proof that Katie actually moved to not risk losing to a Capital Orange team. But you can't. Also the game was never on the Pride schedule. I think some Orange parent made this up for message board fodder. Also, which of the two tournaments that Pride played that Cap was absent was second class? Summer Genesis or MidAtlantic Club Championships? Explain please. M&D, Heros and Skywalkers were among the teams that attended both tournaments. B level college coaches? You just make stuff up.


This person also called out g8 as being an elite invitation that Pride was not worthy of. Well yjma goes to G8 but M&d does not. Ever think politics or logistics come into play? Or maybe clc is more elite than M&d thus the “snub.”


M&D stopped going to G8 and goes to Triple threat now. G8 is a YJ/STEPS tourney and that’s why M&D chose to stop going with the politics and conflicts.


This. 100% accurate. The fact that previous poster didn’t know this, had zero clue, just proves they aren’t a very knowledgeable lacrosse person. Maybe pipe down.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2023 21:24     Subject: Capitol tryouts

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Anonymous wrote:Pride A is a better option than Capital B team. College coaches don’t want B level players.

That’s so not true. Capital B has better connections and better recruiting staff.


Fwiw, with the exception of 1 tournament his summer (where they were in the same bracket), the Pride 25s played in higher brackets than Capital Orange.


This is not true. Pride and Capital only play two of the same tournaments. One they played in the same bracket and the other pride played one bracket above and didn't fair well (the were originally slotted to play in the same bracket as orange and the two teams were supposed to play again, but katie moved their bracket so they didn't have to risk loosing to a B team). Orange plays in two invitational tournaments where there is heavy recruiting and Pride is not invited to attend so there is no comparing which level brackets they played in in those two tournaments. Finally, organge plays in a 5th tournament to maximize recruiting opportunity and pride does not. One of the tournaments pride plays in that orange does not attracts only B level college coaches.


Moving up a bracket because Pride was afraid to play a team they've already beaten is such a dumb argument I can't believe you aren't embarrassed you said it. I'll stand down if you can provide proof that Katie actually moved to not risk losing to a Capital Orange team. But you can't. Also the game was never on the Pride schedule. I think some Orange parent made this up for message board fodder. Also, which of the two tournaments that Pride played that Cap was absent was second class? Summer Genesis or MidAtlantic Club Championships? Explain please. M&D, Heros and Skywalkers were among the teams that attended both tournaments. B level college coaches? You just make stuff up.


This person also called out g8 as being an elite invitation that Pride was not worthy of. Well yjma goes to G8 but M&d does not. Ever think politics or logistics come into play? Or maybe clc is more elite than M&d thus the “snub.”


M&D stopped going to G8 and goes to Triple threat now. G8 is a YJ/STEPS tourney and that’s why M&D chose to stop going with the politics and conflicts.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2023 20:06     Subject: Capitol tryouts

On other pages in this site, you still have Pride parents arguing who was better: Cap23 Blue or Pride23 Black? Now the argument from Pride faithful is that the Black 25 team is greater than or equal to Orange 25. What a change and dip in the program.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2023 18:51     Subject: Capitol tryouts

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pride A is a better option than Capital B team. College coaches don’t want B level players.

That’s so not true. Capital B has better connections and better recruiting staff.


Fwiw, with the exception of 1 tournament his summer (where they were in the same bracket), the Pride 25s played in higher brackets than Capital Orange.


This is not true. Pride and Capital only play two of the same tournaments. One they played in the same bracket and the other pride played one bracket above and didn't fair well (the were originally slotted to play in the same bracket as orange and the two teams were supposed to play again, but katie moved their bracket so they didn't have to risk loosing to a B team). Orange plays in two invitational tournaments where there is heavy recruiting and Pride is not invited to attend so there is no comparing which level brackets they played in in those two tournaments. Finally, organge plays in a 5th tournament to maximize recruiting opportunity and pride does not. One of the tournaments pride plays in that orange does not attracts only B level college coaches.


Moving up a bracket because Pride was afraid to play a team they've already beaten is such a dumb argument I can't believe you aren't embarrassed you said it. I'll stand down if you can provide proof that Katie actually moved to not risk losing to a Capital Orange team. But you can't. Also the game was never on the Pride schedule. I think some Orange parent made this up for message board fodder. Also, which of the two tournaments that Pride played that Cap was absent was second class? Summer Genesis or MidAtlantic Club Championships? Explain please. M&D, Heros and Skywalkers were among the teams that attended both tournaments. B level college coaches? You just make stuff up.


This person also called out g8 as being an elite invitation that Pride was not worthy of. Well yjma goes to G8 but M&d does not. Ever think politics or logistics come into play? Or maybe clc is more elite than M&d thus the “snub.”
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2023 18:39     Subject: Capitol tryouts

Commits come from clubs all over the DMV. No need to worry about the girls from the other clubs. Worry about Capitol. Everyone has their individual goals.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2023 17:27     Subject: Re:Capitol tryouts

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Anonymous wrote:I would also like to add that it seems as though Stars is coming and coming quickly for the number two spot behind Capital for high school. They have poured in a ton of resources and seem to be ready to be a great option.


Agree with this.


If by "resources" you mean purposefully placing all Stars girls on one of the two Capital teams because of the various deals and interconnections between SSSA, KJ, Capital and Stars, and less so based on actual lacrosse talent, then sure, they are resourceful.


This is something that has me puzzled. How can KJ and Stars be building a strong, recruitable high school team after happily preparing and advocating for their best players to move to Capital? Those goals seem to be in conflict. I get the marketing spin, “Stars LB is KJ / KC’a A team” but it seems like this is actually just Capital’s C team. For the sake of those girls I hope they are actually given the time and resources of an A level team.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2023 17:00     Subject: Capitol tryouts

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pride A is a better option than Capital B team. College coaches don’t want B level players.

That’s so not true. Capital B has better connections and better recruiting staff.


Fwiw, with the exception of 1 tournament his summer (where they were in the same bracket), the Pride 25s played in higher brackets than Capital Orange.


This is not true. Pride and Capital only play two of the same tournaments. One they played in the same bracket and the other pride played one bracket above and didn't fair well (the were originally slotted to play in the same bracket as orange and the two teams were supposed to play again, but katie moved their bracket so they didn't have to risk loosing to a B team). Orange plays in two invitational tournaments where there is heavy recruiting and Pride is not invited to attend so there is no comparing which level brackets they played in in those two tournaments. Finally, organge plays in a 5th tournament to maximize recruiting opportunity and pride does not. One of the tournaments pride plays in that orange does not attracts only B level college coaches.


Moving up a bracket because Pride was afraid to play a team they've already beaten is such a dumb argument I can't believe you aren't embarrassed you said it. I'll stand down if you can provide proof that Katie actually moved to not risk losing to a Capital Orange team. But you can't. Also the game was never on the Pride schedule. I think some Orange parent made this up for message board fodder. Also, which of the two tournaments that Pride played that Cap was absent was second class? Summer Genesis or MidAtlantic Club Championships? Explain please. M&D, Heros and Skywalkers were among the teams that attended both tournaments. B level college coaches? You just make stuff up.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2023 16:37     Subject: Capitol tryouts

Anonymous wrote:Cap Orange played great down the stretch. The 77 ranking likely to improve too


Yep, they beat no one ranked lower than 60 in their last tournament. Lost to #64.

Capital parent: 'Rankings likely to improve'.
Also Capital Parent: 'Ratings mean nothing'
Also Capital Parent: 'Playing harder bracket is the most important thing. Wins and losses don't matter'
Also Capital Parent: 'Pride 25 played in a higher bracket but they didn't fare well'.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2023 16:01     Subject: Capitol tryouts

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Anonymous wrote:Is “join the team where she has the most friends an option?”

My estimate is that 65% of girls (probably 75% of boys) on any team outside of the top 25 will not play college for a variety of reasons. Get better with good friends and see what happens. Be a leader on your high school team and develop into the best adult possible.

If being recruited is your only measure of success for a parent, be prepared to be disappointed.


This is a good reminder for everyone. One that I try to remind my household of frequently.


I second this very good point. Girls that know each other well outside of lacrosse and like playing with each other as an extension of those relationships is very important.


This is so true. Unless you are on a CLC B-level team, more than likely the majority of the girls on that team will not be playing lacrosse in college. They would rather go to a UVA or VT as a student vs a school where they can play lacrosse. That is why the social aspect is so important to the vast majority of girls playing lacrosse who are not in the top tier.


YES. All of this. My 2025 daughter was burnt out on the recruiting focus this past year and club lacrosse was no longer fun for her. She decided she didn't want to consider colleges based on where she could play lacrosse. She's talented, but not the definition of top tier. She loves playing with her high school team but was going to quit club. She ultimately decided to continue with a club team where she has good friends and focus on having fun with it this next year; no recruiting.


She must be a good kid! Sounds like she’s going to make a great adult!
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2023 13:54     Subject: Capitol tryouts

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Is “join the team where she has the most friends an option?”

My estimate is that 65% of girls (probably 75% of boys) on any team outside of the top 25 will not play college for a variety of reasons. Get better with good friends and see what happens. Be a leader on your high school team and develop into the best adult possible.

If being recruited is your only measure of success for a parent, be prepared to be disappointed.


This is a good reminder for everyone. One that I try to remind my household of frequently.


I second this very good point. Girls that know each other well outside of lacrosse and like playing with each other as an extension of those relationships is very important.


This is so true. Unless you are on a CLC B-level team, more than likely the majority of the girls on that team will not be playing lacrosse in college. They would rather go to a UVA or VT as a student vs a school where they can play lacrosse. That is why the social aspect is so important to the vast majority of girls playing lacrosse who are not in the top tier.


YES. All of this. My 2025 daughter was burnt out on the recruiting focus this past year and club lacrosse was no longer fun for her. She decided she didn't want to consider colleges based on where she could play lacrosse. She's talented, but not the definition of top tier. She loves playing with her high school team but was going to quit club. She ultimately decided to continue with a club team where she has good friends and focus on having fun with it this next year; no recruiting.