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Anonymous wrote:Context: To get a 4.6 at that school, kid likely had to take 16 AP courses and get a full "A" in every one of them through first semester of senior year. (And probably use some GPA-related tricks that Tiger parents daydream about from the time their kids are in diapers.) Only a handful of students in the entire school system can compete with that, and few would even be interested in trying. Anyway, I assume a troll started this thread.

My kid was like this and did not get into UVa or VT. Also sports and lots of extracurriculars The system is broken. People don't want to hear it, but it's true.

And my four white, UMC kids had those kinds of stats and ECs applied to UVA and three were admitted and of the three who applied to VT, two were admitted. The system is not broken; it is just crazy competitive and thus unpredictable.

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Same results for my white, UMC kids. Lots and lots of sour grapes on this forum.

What would the results have been for black kids?

The trick to UVA is applying ED, and having a sob story essay involving "diversity" (no injury topics). You are welcome.

Sad, but true.

It’s true of all schools. Every student has to have a sob story or a story about how they overcame an obstacle in life. It’s all very weird. We sent DS to a British school which is a meritocracy so we don’t have to deal with a broken system

+1 I absolutely HATE this. It's like kids are making sh*t up to appear as a victim who has overcome. It's pathetic.

You just can't be 'normal'. When did 'normal' become toxic and a liability? And, I'm waiting for the rant to this post about what is 'normal' blah, blah, blah, yada yada....in this context--I mean your average kid with just regular life issues that don't have to be made into a mini-novella. Everyone by the time they are applying to college has likely faced meanness, exclusion, toxicity, rejection (sports, elections), injury, death of a grandparent, etc. Just 'normal' things based on their age. But--they have to make these things so 'life-definining' and beating all odds kind of crap.

IT's strange and weird. You hear of kids lying about their gender identification or race or some sob story just to have an angle.

DP. I see your point and share your disgust, but we chose the opposite tack. UMC white girl, excellent grades, excellent ECs, jobs, interesting essay - and no sob stories to speak of. She didn’t make anything up, she simply presented herself as she is - and is now at her top choice, VT. Adcoms can see right through the made up nonsense. Just tell your kids to be themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:Me here looking at all the white boys on my kids’ NoVa HS class Instagram announcing that they will attend UVA next year…rolling my eyes.

Same! These endless DCUM threads don’t match with reality. Most of the kids from Nova going to UVA, VT and W&M are white. Just not the white kids of the whining parents on here.

Anonymous wrote:I just got my kids semester report card. DC has a 4.92 wgpa (4.0 uw), 1580 SAT, magnet, rejected from T15.

so, OP, your kid is not alone, and actually, kids with even higher scores than your kids are getting rejected at top schools.

Anonymous wrote:Or a 4.6 from a public school is not all that outstanding anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of cheating in admissions process. Also, PP is correct that many foreigners enroll in top prep schools. A few years ago during Kavanaugh’s nomination a lot of news was on Georgetown Prep. Someone gave me the demographics. Among its intl students, which country has the most? China! I thought it was communist. Do they have that many Catholics?

cheating on college apps is not limited to international student from China. It happens among UMC white kids in the US , too.

Anonymous wrote:I just got my kids semester report card. DC has a 4.92 wgpa (4.0 uw), 1580 SAT, magnet, rejected from T15.

so, OP, your kid is not alone, and actually, kids with even higher scores than your kids are getting rejected at top schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Context: To get a 4.6 at that school, kid likely had to take 16 AP courses and get a full "A" in every one of them through first semester of senior year. (And probably use some GPA-related tricks that Tiger parents daydream about from the time their kids are in diapers.) Only a handful of students in the entire school system can compete with that, and few would even be interested in trying. Anyway, I assume a troll started this thread.

My kid was like this and did not get into UVa or VT. Also sports and lots of extracurriculars The system is broken. People don't want to hear it, but it's true.

And my four white, UMC kids had those kinds of stats and ECs applied to UVA and three were admitted and of the three who applied to VT, two were admitted. The system is not broken; it is just crazy competitive and thus unpredictable.

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Same results for my white, UMC kids. Lots and lots of sour grapes on this forum.

What would the results have been for black kids?

The trick to UVA is applying ED, and having a sob story essay involving "diversity" (no injury topics). You are welcome.

Sad, but true.

It’s true of all schools. Every student has to have a sob story or a story about how they overcame an obstacle in life. It’s all very weird. We sent DS to a British school which is a meritocracy so we don’t have to deal with a broken system

+1 I absolutely HATE this. It's like kids are making sh*t up to appear as a victim who has overcome. It's pathetic.

You just can't be 'normal'. When did 'normal' become toxic and a liability? And, I'm waiting for the rant to this post about what is 'normal' blah, blah, blah, yada yada....in this context--I mean your average kid with just regular life issues that don't have to be made into a mini-novella. Everyone by the time they are applying to college has likely faced meanness, exclusion, toxicity, rejection (sports, elections), injury, death of a grandparent, etc. Just 'normal' things based on their age. But--they have to make these things so 'life-definining' and beating all odds kind of crap.

IT's strange and weird. You hear of kids lying about their gender identification or race or some sob story just to have an angle.

Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend had this same experience last year, with a 4.4 and 1550 from a different FCPS high school. Half white, half Asian. Waitlisted at UVA, waitlisted at WM, deferred then waitlisted at VT, applied for business. Really didn’t want JMU, VCU, and didn’t think he’d need them so didn’t apply. Was accepted at NYU, Northeastern, and a few others, but ultimately the couldn’t afford it and he is at Nova and planning to try again via transfer.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think OPs post is genuine based on what I’ve seen from my own child and his friend’s experiences with college admissions from FCPS. OP, what are your child’s ECs? Did he take the SAT or ACT? What major did he apply to? Excellent essays? Any discipline issues?

My son was more qualified than OP kid and was waitlisted at UVa and Tech. The admissions people don't care about quality, they care about quotas.

They probably had thousands of applicants with exactly those stats. Why should they take your kid when there are others who offer the same things - or better?

The average SAT for VT is 1285 and average GPA 4.05. So, no, 4.6 and 1550 is well above average and in no world should he have not gotten in.

The average SAT for VT is 1330, per SCHEV. Regardless, no one is owed admission. Probably a lot of applicants had better/more interesting/impressive ECs. Deal with it.
https://research.schev.edu/iprofile.asp?UID=233921

He got in through GAA and will be attending next fall. That is how I am dealing with it. Nobody has more impressive sport/ECAs than him The admissions office is broken.

Good to see you have a firm grip on reality.

Right?! That poster and her unhinged rants are so recognizable.

It's because I say the admissions system is broken in every post. And it is.

Anonymous wrote:A lot of cheating in admissions process. Also, PP is correct that many foreigners enroll in top prep schools. A few years ago during Kavanaugh’s nomination a lot of news was on Georgetown Prep. Someone gave me the demographics. Among its intl students, which country has the most? China! I thought it was communist. Do they have that many Catholics?

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Anonymous wrote:Context: To get a 4.6 at that school, kid likely had to take 16 AP courses and get a full "A" in every one of them through first semester of senior year. (And probably use some GPA-related tricks that Tiger parents daydream about from the time their kids are in diapers.) Only a handful of students in the entire school system can compete with that, and few would even be interested in trying. Anyway, I assume a troll started this thread.

My kid was like this and did not get into UVa or VT. Also sports and lots of extracurriculars The system is broken. People don't want to hear it, but it's true.

And my four white, UMC kids had those kinds of stats and ECs applied to UVA and three were admitted and of the three who applied to VT, two were admitted. The system is not broken; it is just crazy competitive and thus unpredictable.

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Same results for my white, UMC kids. Lots and lots of sour grapes on this forum.

What would the results have been for black kids?

The trick to UVA is applying ED, and having a sob story essay involving "diversity" (no injury topics). You are welcome.

Sad, but true.

It’s true of all schools. Every student has to have a sob story or a story about how they overcame an obstacle in life. It’s all very weird. We sent DS to a British school which is a meritocracy so we don’t have to deal with a broken system

+1 I absolutely HATE this. It's like kids are making sh*t up to appear as a victim who has overcome. It's pathetic.

You just can't be 'normal'. When did 'normal' become toxic and a liability? And, I'm waiting for the rant to this post about what is 'normal' blah, blah, blah, yada yada....in this context--I mean your average kid with just regular life issues that don't have to be made into a mini-novella. Everyone by the time they are applying to college has likely faced meanness, exclusion, toxicity, rejection (sports, elections), injury, death of a grandparent, etc. Just 'normal' things based on their age. But--they have to make these things so 'life-definining' and beating all odds kind of crap.

IT's strange and weird. You hear of kids lying about their gender identification or race or some sob story just to have an angle.

Because some kids have had to overcome a lot more than your kid, and it IS more impressive when they manage to achieve.

Does anyone really know what is going on in any kid's life? Nobody knows anything about what challenges any kid is facing, and dysfunction and abuse crosses all SES levels. The chip on the shoulder that one person's sob story is 'better' or more glorious than another persons is sick.

Selecting solely for those stories is what is sick. Yes- kid's circumstances should be taken into consideration. A kid holding down 2 jobs and school because his family is in poverty so does not have time or resources for extracurriculars and sports should matter. I am talking about the faux trauma victim sob story in essays.