Anonymous
08/16/2023 18:13
Subject: Re:Texas judge suspends abortion pill approval
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fifth Circuit panel decision is in and predictable:
“A federal appeals court on Wednesday said it would restrict access to a widely used abortion medication after finding that the federal government did not follow the proper process when it loosened regulations in 2016 to make the pill more easily available.
A three-judge panel of the conservative U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit said Food and Drug Administration decisions to allow the drug mifepristone to be taken later in pregnancy, be mailed directly to patients and be prescribed by a medical professional other than a doctor were not lawful.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/08/16/abortion-pill-mifepristone-court-ruling-appeal/
I don't understand why this is such a huge issue.
Why would anyone take a drug that has not properly been tested?
Which pill are you talking about? Because it's not the abortion pill, which has been thoroughly tested and also been used for decades and has a MUCH better safety record than giving birth. That is a true fact that you cannot dispute.
Forced birthers don’t need facts. They get to cause women pain and trauma and the cruelty is the point. They’re loving this.
Anonymous
08/16/2023 18:08
Subject: Re:Texas judge suspends abortion pill approval
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fifth Circuit panel decision is in and predictable:
“A federal appeals court on Wednesday said it would restrict access to a widely used abortion medication after finding that the federal government did not follow the proper process when it loosened regulations in 2016 to make the pill more easily available.
A three-judge panel of the conservative U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit said Food and Drug Administration decisions to allow the drug mifepristone to be taken later in pregnancy, be mailed directly to patients and be prescribed by a medical professional other than a doctor were not lawful.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/08/16/abortion-pill-mifepristone-court-ruling-appeal/
I don't understand why this is such a huge issue.
Why would anyone take a drug that has not properly been tested?
Which pill are you talking about? Because it's not the abortion pill, which has been thoroughly tested and also been used for decades and has a MUCH better safety record than giving birth. That is a true fact that you cannot dispute.
Anonymous
08/16/2023 17:50
Subject: Texas judge suspends abortion pill approval
Anonymous wrote:It WAS tested properly.
They are lying.
Yes, it was.
More than Viagra, for example.
Anonymous
08/16/2023 17:05
Subject: Texas judge suspends abortion pill approval
It WAS tested properly.
They are lying.
They are lying.
Anonymous
08/16/2023 16:57
Subject: Re:Texas judge suspends abortion pill approval
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fifth Circuit panel decision is in and predictable:
“A federal appeals court on Wednesday said it would restrict access to a widely used abortion medication after finding that the federal government did not follow the proper process when it loosened regulations in 2016 to make the pill more easily available.
A three-judge panel of the conservative U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit said Food and Drug Administration decisions to allow the drug mifepristone to be taken later in pregnancy, be mailed directly to patients and be prescribed by a medical professional other than a doctor were not lawful.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/08/16/abortion-pill-mifepristone-court-ruling-appeal/
I don't understand why this is such a huge issue.
Why would anyone take a drug that has not properly been tested?
Just because three conservative judges say it wasn’t tested properly doesn’t mean it wasn’t tested properly. They have zero relevant credentials to evaluate that. This drug is safer than penicillin and Advil.
Anonymous
08/16/2023 15:20
Subject: Re:Texas judge suspends abortion pill approval
Anonymous wrote:Fifth Circuit panel decision is in and predictable:
“A federal appeals court on Wednesday said it would restrict access to a widely used abortion medication after finding that the federal government did not follow the proper process when it loosened regulations in 2016 to make the pill more easily available.
A three-judge panel of the conservative U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit said Food and Drug Administration decisions to allow the drug mifepristone to be taken later in pregnancy, be mailed directly to patients and be prescribed by a medical professional other than a doctor were not lawful.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/08/16/abortion-pill-mifepristone-court-ruling-appeal/
I don't understand why this is such a huge issue.
Why would anyone take a drug that has not properly been tested?
Anonymous
Anonymous
08/16/2023 15:03
Subject: Texas judge suspends abortion pill approval
vote accordingly, the scotus will ban this pill unless the congress codifes its legality
Anonymous
08/16/2023 14:59
Subject: Re:Texas judge suspends abortion pill approval
Fifth Circuit panel decision is in and predictable:
“A federal appeals court on Wednesday said it would restrict access to a widely used abortion medication after finding that the federal government did not follow the proper process when it loosened regulations in 2016 to make the pill more easily available.
A three-judge panel of the conservative U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit said Food and Drug Administration decisions to allow the drug mifepristone to be taken later in pregnancy, be mailed directly to patients and be prescribed by a medical professional other than a doctor were not lawful.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/08/16/abortion-pill-mifepristone-court-ruling-appeal/
“A federal appeals court on Wednesday said it would restrict access to a widely used abortion medication after finding that the federal government did not follow the proper process when it loosened regulations in 2016 to make the pill more easily available.
A three-judge panel of the conservative U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit said Food and Drug Administration decisions to allow the drug mifepristone to be taken later in pregnancy, be mailed directly to patients and be prescribed by a medical professional other than a doctor were not lawful.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/08/16/abortion-pill-mifepristone-court-ruling-appeal/
Anonymous
05/19/2023 11:26
Subject: Texas judge suspends abortion pill approval
Lots of people who will lose their fertility entirely from a devastating or mishandled miscarriage
Anonymous
05/19/2023 10:27
Subject: Re:Texas judge suspends abortion pill approval
Anonymous wrote:“Adams says she's grateful in all those years of miscarriages that she had medication to take to speed the process so they could try again.
"When you fall into the world of pregnancy loss, you become so familiar with mifepristone and all of these medications – it becomes this second language," Adams says. "It's been so bizarre to hear this reach a national conversation level and to hear courts discussing this and politicians discussing this [...] as if it is a dangerous tool or a dangerous drug that threatens people's lives."
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/05/17/1176514276/mifepristone-abortion-miscarriage-pill?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
One of the things that anti-abortion people conveniently overlook are all the babies who are born because their mothers were able to have an abortion at an earlier time. There are several such stories in that NPR report. I repeat: those babies would not exist if the mothers had had to go through earlier unwanted or doomed pregnancies. And then there are women who are so traumatized by having to go through with a pregnancy that was either doomed or that nearly killed them that they refuse to ever consider getting pregnant again. Plenty of those stories, too. So anti-abortionists can cry all they want about saving babies' lives but in reality their bans are preventing future children from being born.
Anonymous
05/19/2023 09:36
Subject: Re:Texas judge suspends abortion pill approval
“Adams says she's grateful in all those years of miscarriages that she had medication to take to speed the process so they could try again.
"When you fall into the world of pregnancy loss, you become so familiar with mifepristone and all of these medications – it becomes this second language," Adams says. "It's been so bizarre to hear this reach a national conversation level and to hear courts discussing this and politicians discussing this [...] as if it is a dangerous tool or a dangerous drug that threatens people's lives."
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/05/17/1176514276/mifepristone-abortion-miscarriage-pill?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
"When you fall into the world of pregnancy loss, you become so familiar with mifepristone and all of these medications – it becomes this second language," Adams says. "It's been so bizarre to hear this reach a national conversation level and to hear courts discussing this and politicians discussing this [...] as if it is a dangerous tool or a dangerous drug that threatens people's lives."
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/05/17/1176514276/mifepristone-abortion-miscarriage-pill?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Anonymous
05/19/2023 08:16
Subject: Texas judge suspends abortion pill approval
Anonymous wrote:Lady, you talk so much about your daughter going to Canada in so many threads that I don’t know if I should worry about your health or if you’re trolling. I’m beginning to suspect trolling.
Because here we are the forced birthers are getting away with making women second class citizens.
I’m not a troll. And I also am well aware of the mess. I am politically active and am going to fight for as long as I can, but my teen doesn’t have to stay for this.
Anonymous
05/19/2023 08:10
Subject: Texas judge suspends abortion pill approval
Lady, you talk so much about your daughter going to Canada in so many threads that I don’t know if I should worry about your health or if you’re trolling. I’m beginning to suspect trolling.
Because here we are the forced birthers are getting away with making women second class citizens.
Because here we are the forced birthers are getting away with making women second class citizens.
Anonymous
05/18/2023 21:56
Subject: Texas judge suspends abortion pill approval
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how or why this is even happening. But I am not kidding that I have had it with this crap. I am all in on shipping my 2024 HS grad to Canada and then figuring out how to follow her with her much younger sister
Do not just leave. Stay and fight for what is right.
Look, I can personally fight just a little while longer, but a teen who is getting ready to graduate HS does NOT need to take that chance. We have identified several post-secondary opportunities for her in Canada that can keep her there for several years.
Her little sister isn't at this point yet, but if things go downhill fast nationally, we're ALL done.
I have to protect my girls - that is basically my ONLY job as their mom.
I have been in the activism game a long time already. But like I said - I'm done if these idiots somehow pass a nationwide ban.
If these idiots somehow pass a nationwide ban, we double down. Time to start acting as if our lives depend on it and we can’t just buy our way out of a problem.
Besides, you don’t actually know that Canada is going to be willing to take your daughters unless they are dual citizens. They could decide their borders are being overrun and shut down visas, just like that. Or the Fascists could start preventing people from leaving. That’s the thing about Fascists- once they get a taste of victory they find it very hard to stop, and people who pretend that this will stop at abortion are deluding themselves.
The answer is to defeat them so hard they can’t see straight and, if you can’t stomach imprisoning them or deporting them, ban them from any form of gainful employment and polite society in this country forever.
Canada is just the easiest option for my almost high school graduate.
I did say, I will stay and fight as long as I can. However, if things go, south quickly, I will find us a country that we can move to. It may not be Canada. It may be an entirely different country.
This is not set in stone. But with a child getting close to high school graduation, this is the most expedient route out for her.
I don’t think you realize how hard it is to emigrate to a first world nation with progressive social policies as a “typical” immigrant. I hope you have deep pockets or a desirable degree because that is really the only way out for most Americans.
I do realize. My teen daughter can get a student visa for the programs we are looking at for her. We will figure out the rest from there. That is just a first step.
2 of the programs work together and could potentially combine for about 3 years. Then she could hopefully get offered a job up there. We’re honestly just working on buying time, and this is the easiest option. They are also just decent post-secondary options for her that I would pay for anyway.
We aren’t made of money, but we can figure something out. Of course I hope it doesn’t come to needing to get all of us out, but it is at least a step