Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 16:47     Subject: Re:Please don’t let your children eat common allergens while playing on public playground equipment

It’s amazing that people are here claiming that nuts are the “only food” their kids can eat. BS. Have your child eat other foods, it’s not that hard
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 16:45     Subject: Re:Please don’t let your children eat common allergens while playing on public playground equipment

If you grabbed the snack from my Type 1 diabetic child's hands, I would definitely have you charged with assault or theft.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 16:44     Subject: Please don’t let your children eat common allergens while playing on public playground equipment

This thread reminds me of a recent post on my neighborhood's Nextdoor group where a woman wanted everyone to stop using their fireplaces and woodstoves because the smoke triggers her asthma when she goes for walks.

We'll get right on that!
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 16:41     Subject: Re:Please don’t let your children eat common allergens while playing on public playground equipment

Anonymous wrote:As others have pointed out, a big part of the problem is that every kid's allergy situation is different. For OP's kid, it's fine just to keep the bambas off the playground, but another kid might be put in danger by a kid who just ate a peanut butter sandwich on the park bench. Or even at home for breakfast before getting to the playground. Many kids are fine with exposure as long as they themselves don't eat the nut product. And of course, there are many allergies out there besides nuts.

Trying to anticipate the needs of every hypothetical allergic kid who might be on the playground on a given day is not going to work. That said, if I knew a specific child in my neighborhood had a specific allergy I would be happy to do what I could to keep that child safe, and I would always be happy to put a food product away if asked by a parent.


+1.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 16:39     Subject: Please don’t let your children eat common allergens while playing on public playground equipment

Anonymous wrote:OP. You have to learn to be ruthless. As you can see, these people don’t care about your kid. They don’t care or she lives or dies. They only care about their child and their comfort.

So what do I do? Grab the snack and throw it out. I don’t care if I make an enemy out of every parent and nanny in the park. You will have to learn to aggressively put your child first because everyone around them won’t ever.

Let them be angry. My child’s right to life is more important than your kids snack.


You grab snacks out of kid's hands and throw them out? Wow. Maybe try gloves or play in your yard. What are you teaching your kid?
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 14:49     Subject: Please don’t let your children eat common allergens while playing on public playground equipment

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I agree. I have one child with anaphylactic allergies to peanuts and pistachios, and another without. We are always mindful to eat cleanly in public spaces so as not to pose a threat to others, or my own son.

It’s the plane that’s terrifying. Even with two Epipens. People eating nuts and no way for the plan to land in time.

Anaphylactic reactions to airborne peanut dust are non-existent. These reactions are rare and mild. (Seafood and wheat can be a different story.)

Hopefully this will at least help you feel less stressed on the plane.


Oh man - I had a lady eat a whole basket of shrimp in the window seat when I was on the aisle seat. I almost barfed.
Seafood is not acceptable for closed spaces with no opportunity to leave/ventilate.





LOL so now we are basically at no one should eat anything in public b/c it might sicken someone. and allergy folks wonder why they don't get sympathy!

Well, that one's more of an issue of strong smells in an enclosed space.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 13:38     Subject: Please don’t let your children eat common allergens while playing on public playground equipment

I don't understand what OP's end goal is here. Is she trying to eliminate peanuts from all playgrounds so that her child can play safely without worry or having to wipe down surfaces? That is an impossible goal because you'll never get 100% compliance. If she really wants to change population wide behaviors, she needs to get her local elected officials to change playground rules and ban eating on the playground, like smoking is banned on playgrounds. If a parent came up to me as politely asked us to put away a snack, I'd be happy to oblige. But PPs are correct that there are way too many common allergens, many of which are found in common kid snack foods, to expect parents to plan ahead.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 13:30     Subject: Please don’t let your children eat common allergens while playing on public playground equipment

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I agree. I have one child with anaphylactic allergies to peanuts and pistachios, and another without. We are always mindful to eat cleanly in public spaces so as not to pose a threat to others, or my own son.

It’s the plane that’s terrifying. Even with two Epipens. People eating nuts and no way for the plan to land in time.

Anaphylactic reactions to airborne peanut dust are non-existent. These reactions are rare and mild. (Seafood and wheat can be a different story.)

Hopefully this will at least help you feel less stressed on the plane.


Oh man - I had a lady eat a whole basket of shrimp in the window seat when I was on the aisle seat. I almost barfed.
Seafood is not acceptable for closed spaces with no opportunity to leave/ventilate.





LOL so now we are basically at no one should eat anything in public b/c it might sicken someone. and allergy folks wonder why they don't get sympathy!
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 13:20     Subject: Re:Please don’t let your children eat common allergens while playing on public playground equipment

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Anonymous wrote:Wait until your child gets to elementary school, high school, college and the work world. Are you going to tell your child’s roommates they can’t eat almonds?


Actually yes. We only will be able to send her to peanut free schools. In college she will have to request a peanut free roommate unless she grows out of it. And we’re working on it.


These don’t exist. Maybe preschools.

Good luck.


Yes, they do?!

My DD's public elementary school was 100% peanut free due to kids with severe allergies. We received numerous notices prior to the start of every school year to remind us/inform new parents. They sent lists of alternative nut butters that were approved instead. There was even an open house event that had samples of different nut butters so kids could try alternatives.


My kids school is supposed to be nut free and there are kids there every day with nuts in their lunchboxes!!! My own kid will only eat a peanut butter and jelly sandwich so we just tell him it’s sunflower seed butter and not to share it with other kids! The nut free allergy kids I know are smart and don’t eat anything from other kids.


I also have a kid who will only eat peanut butter sandwiches for lunch. We tried various meats and other good sources of protein, but for a kid with severe feeding issues that require OT, everything else is just too damn difficult for my kid to eat in the very very short lunch period. Nut allergy parents assume every kid can just eat something else and be fine and that only their kids have special snowflake problems. I really wish I had more empathy for nut allergy parents, but I have been dealing with my kid's neurological and feeding issues for too long and I am f'ing exhausted! Nut allergy kids are not my problem. I have enough problems.


Selfish pig


This is obviously a troll post, but the idea that everyone must care about other people's children as much as they care about their own is so stupid. There is absolutely nothing selfish about a parent working themselves to exhaustion to meet their own child's needs and not having anything left over to accommodate some **hypothetical** stranger's child's needs. Do you go around whispering and never whistling because there exist children with sensory issues who react badly to certain loud noises? Do you forego deodorant and perfume because there exist children with sensitivity to fragrances? If not, you too are a selfish pig.


+1 what about my nephew who is autistic and can’t come to the playground because of the loud noise screaming kids make? Should we expect all kids at the playground to speak quietly and never scream? Why are parents so selfish and can’t teach their kids not to scream at the playground?

OP, my kids don’t eat nuts or similar products. They actually never eat at the playground unless there is a birthday party. I would be 100% happy to do whatever your child need if you ask me, but I don’t have the mental space to start considering the various needs of all the different kids/people out there when I have my own 3 kids’ needs, my job, my family to think about. Where do you people find the time to start considering all the possible people’s needs out there?


Screaming won’t make your son DIE. Stupid false equivalence.


*nephew


First of all, kids screaming is the reason why my nephew can’t go to playgrounds (just like OP’s kid). Second, OP can follow her child and wipe every surface she touches or put gloves, etc. I realize this is not ideal and I would be happy to put my peanuts away (not that I ever eat them) if OP asks me to. However, my BIL can’t do anything about the kids screaming. He can’t just stick wipes into kids’ mouths to stop them from screaming. How is this a false equivalence?
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 10:52     Subject: Please don’t let your children eat common allergens while playing on public playground equipment

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I agree. I have one child with anaphylactic allergies to peanuts and pistachios, and another without. We are always mindful to eat cleanly in public spaces so as not to pose a threat to others, or my own son.

It’s the plane that’s terrifying. Even with two Epipens. People eating nuts and no way for the plan to land in time.

Anaphylactic reactions to airborne peanut dust are non-existent. These reactions are rare and mild. (Seafood and wheat can be a different story.)

Hopefully this will at least help you feel less stressed on the plane.


Oh man - I had a lady eat a whole basket of shrimp in the window seat when I was on the aisle seat. I almost barfed.
Seafood is not acceptable for closed spaces with no opportunity to leave/ventilate.



Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 09:26     Subject: Re:Please don’t let your children eat common allergens while playing on public playground equipment

As others have pointed out, a big part of the problem is that every kid's allergy situation is different. For OP's kid, it's fine just to keep the bambas off the playground, but another kid might be put in danger by a kid who just ate a peanut butter sandwich on the park bench. Or even at home for breakfast before getting to the playground. Many kids are fine with exposure as long as they themselves don't eat the nut product. And of course, there are many allergies out there besides nuts.

Trying to anticipate the needs of every hypothetical allergic kid who might be on the playground on a given day is not going to work. That said, if I knew a specific child in my neighborhood had a specific allergy I would be happy to do what I could to keep that child safe, and I would always be happy to put a food product away if asked by a parent.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 09:26     Subject: Please don’t let your children eat common allergens while playing on public playground equipment

Anonymous wrote:I agree. I have one child with anaphylactic allergies to peanuts and pistachios, and another without. We are always mindful to eat cleanly in public spaces so as not to pose a threat to others, or my own son.

It’s the plane that’s terrifying. Even with two Epipens. People eating nuts and no way for the plan to land in time.

Anaphylactic reactions to airborne peanut dust are non-existent. These reactions are rare and mild. (Seafood and wheat can be a different story.)

Hopefully this will at least help you feel less stressed on the plane.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 09:17     Subject: Re:Please don’t let your children eat common allergens while playing on public playground equipment

Thanks for flagging this issue OP. I generally don't bring snacks to the playground at all because I'd rather just feed the kids at home, but it's a good reminder for when I do. My sons get plenty of peanut butter at home, they don't need to have it at school or on the playground.

I do think that the vast majority of parents (in person and not hiding behind a screen in tough-guy mode), would absolutely put their peanut-based snacks away if you asked them to politely and explained the reason. Have you tried this? My son has a little girl in his class with a severe nut allergy and we got an email about it at the beginning of the year, and everyone is careful about not exposing her, even at out-of-school events.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 08:57     Subject: Re:Please don’t let your children eat common allergens while playing on public playground equipment

This thread is more wackadoo and sad than I could have imagined. I have the greatest sympathy for allergy parents, but 100 percent agree with the folks who've said trying to get compliance on a public playground is a fool's errand. In my neighborhood, kids are often on the playground unsupervised! There is no way to ensure compliance, although you might be able to raise awareness with fencing and signage as some have suggested.

I am glad I read this this thread, though, because I did learn something about some of the other challenges that parents are facing. Hugs to everyone who is doing the best they can for their kids.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 08:23     Subject: Re:Please don’t let your children eat common allergens while playing on public playground equipment

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Wait until your child gets to elementary school, high school, college and the work world. Are you going to tell your child’s roommates they can’t eat almonds?


Actually yes. We only will be able to send her to peanut free schools. In college she will have to request a peanut free roommate unless she grows out of it. And we’re working on it.


These don’t exist. Maybe preschools.

Good luck.


Yes, they do?!

My DD's public elementary school was 100% peanut free due to kids with severe allergies. We received numerous notices prior to the start of every school year to remind us/inform new parents. They sent lists of alternative nut butters that were approved instead. There was even an open house event that had samples of different nut butters so kids could try alternatives.


My kids school is supposed to be nut free and there are kids there every day with nuts in their lunchboxes!!! My own kid will only eat a peanut butter and jelly sandwich so we just tell him it’s sunflower seed butter and not to share it with other kids! The nut free allergy kids I know are smart and don’t eat anything from other kids.


I also have a kid who will only eat peanut butter sandwiches for lunch. We tried various meats and other good sources of protein, but for a kid with severe feeding issues that require OT, everything else is just too damn difficult for my kid to eat in the very very short lunch period. Nut allergy parents assume every kid can just eat something else and be fine and that only their kids have special snowflake problems. I really wish I had more empathy for nut allergy parents, but I have been dealing with my kid's neurological and feeding issues for too long and I am f'ing exhausted! Nut allergy kids are not my problem. I have enough problems.


Selfish pig


This is obviously a troll post, but the idea that everyone must care about other people's children as much as they care about their own is so stupid. There is absolutely nothing selfish about a parent working themselves to exhaustion to meet their own child's needs and not having anything left over to accommodate some **hypothetical** stranger's child's needs. Do you go around whispering and never whistling because there exist children with sensory issues who react badly to certain loud noises? Do you forego deodorant and perfume because there exist children with sensitivity to fragrances? If not, you too are a selfish pig.


+1 what about my nephew who is autistic and can’t come to the playground because of the loud noise screaming kids make? Should we expect all kids at the playground to speak quietly and never scream? Why are parents so selfish and can’t teach their kids not to scream at the playground?

OP, my kids don’t eat nuts or similar products. They actually never eat at the playground unless there is a birthday party. I would be 100% happy to do whatever your child need if you ask me, but I don’t have the mental space to start considering the various needs of all the different kids/people out there when I have my own 3 kids’ needs, my job, my family to think about. Where do you people find the time to start considering all the possible people’s needs out there?


I am a parent of a high functioning autistic son who doesn't/can't/won't eat a huge variety of foods and least of all protein, except -- drumroll -- nuts. The number one reason why I do not care about "allergy moms" and their obnoxious "allergy mom" subculture of shaming everyone is that "allergy moms" do not care about me or my son or any other child outside the "allergy mom" bubble. Their kids are fully capable of learning the behaviors necessary to keep themselves alive. Many autistic kids cannot learn to eat other foods to keep themselves alive because their brains don't work right. That's why many of them on the high-functioning end are underweight.

Also the poster on the early pages who pointed out that nut allergies is a "rich kid" disease is 100% correct. If you keep your home overly clean and sanitized when your baby is young (because you are rich and have a maid, for instance) then your child won't get enough exposure to pathogens and allergens, and then they'll be at a much much higher risk of developing allergies later. Good going allergy mom, you created the problem yourself.


Wow. You actually had me on your side with the first paragraph and then you completely lost me with the second paragraph. As a mom with a kid who has special needs, you really blamed another mom with a kid who has special needs for causing that problem? I hope you realize as your glass house shatters around you how disgusting that is.