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Anonymous wrote:Difficult to understand the college admissions process, it all seems a bit random. DD was rejected from UVA (instate) early action (around 30% acceptance rate for in-state) but accepted early action at UNC as out of state (with a less than 10% acceptance rate for out-of-state).

That is very strange, unusual interest?

Difficult to understand the college admissions process, it all seems a bit random. DD was rejected from UVA (instate) early action (around 30% acceptance rate for in-state) but accepted early action at UNC as out of state (with a less than 10% acceptance rate for out-of-state).

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Anonymous wrote:DS deferred, OOS MCPS magnet, 1500, 6 APs, 4.7W/4.0 UW.

Legacy?

Nope. DS isn't legacy. Sorry, 6 APs taken but 9 APs if we're counting senior year? Also, he only took 3 years of Spanish (2 of which were in MS) and he didn't get outright rejected, like others in the world language threads would have predicted. He got into UMDCP, so that's his first choice right now, but still waiting to hear from other schools and UMBC Meyerhoff results.

The MCPS magnet classes are usually more rigorous than AP but not sure if UVA is aware of that.

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Anonymous wrote:DS deferred, OOS MCPS magnet, 1500, 6 APs, 4.7W/4.0 UW.

Legacy?

Nope. DS isn't legacy. Sorry, 6 APs taken but 9 APs if we're counting senior year? Also, he only took 3 years of Spanish (2 of which were in MS) and he didn't get outright rejected, like others in the world language threads would have predicted. He got into UMDCP, so that's his first choice right now, but still waiting to hear from other schools and UMBC Meyerhoff results.

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Anonymous wrote:UVa’s in-state students are -mostly- from Northern VA. When I was a UVa student, I was astonished at how Northern VA students were (and still are) the vast majority of in-state undergraduate students, across all undergraduate schools. (Then, as now, about 1/3rd of undergraduate students were from outside VA.)

It’s a little over 50%. I used to get lots of eyerolls when I told people I was from NoVa. There’s just so many. But apparently never enough.

For the fall 2022 entering class at UVA, 53.6% of in-state students were from NOVA (and 37.6% of the class was from OOS). You can see the corresponding figures for other Virginia schools via this link:

https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/E19_Report.asp

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Anonymous wrote:In state deferred SAT 1510 UWGPA 4.0 WGPA 4.4. 7AP, leadership, great recs (read them). Lots of volunteer at same place since 9th, 20 hr/week job since 10th. Very upset that he can not get accepted to our state flagship school Ive been funding for the past 19 years that Ive lived in VA with those qualities. UVA needs auto-admits like Texas.

Your tax dollars have funded lots of great schools, too, and I have no doubt he’ll get into one of those.

And very few of your tax dollars are going to UVA anyway. That’s the price they paid for more autonomy from the state.

UVA gets more per in state undergraduate students than most of the state schools.

No, it wanted more freedom so spun itself off a decade ago. It now receives only 6 percent of operating budget from the legislature. This is discussed in UVA’s wiki page. At the same time it did this, UVA put so much effort into successfully building its endowment (with alumni dollars) that the state later tried to get it back. Lol

It is still a state school. The state doesn't have to try to get it back.

Go read wiki on UVA: Administration and organization. The endowment is now $14.5. No, the Commonwealth can’t just go take it. That’s not how endowments work.

They meant the school, not the endowment. Land, buildings through appropriations are state. The endowment was never the state's, and the same goes for other state schools.

Well if 30% of the least populous counties combined only come up with as many souls as the second most populous county in VA, it is not really a surprise.

Anonymous wrote:UVa’s in-state students are -mostly- from Northern VA. When I was a UVa student, I was astonished at how Northern VA students were (and still are) the vast majority of in-state undergraduate students, across all undergraduate schools. (Then, as now, about 1/3rd of undergraduate students were from outside VA.)

It’s a little over 50%. I used to get lots of eyerolls when I told people I was from NoVa. There’s just so many. But apparently never enough.

UVa’s in-state students are -mostly- from Northern VA. When I was a UVa student, I was astonished at how Northern VA students were (and still are) the vast majority of in-state undergraduate students, across all undergraduate schools. (Then, as now, about 1/3rd of undergraduate students were from outside VA.)

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Anonymous wrote:I think people should keep in mind that just like posts about income and weight, these posts are self-selecting. College confidential (and UVA’s own stats) speak to what the actual admitted applicant pool looks like (which is still highly selective but clearly doesn’t require a 1550 SAT).

I am so sorry high stat kids got deferred.

People forget that admissions are holistic, stats are a threshold, not determinative. I do think UVA likely has a very good odea about the extent of grade inflation at VA,DC, and MD schools.

Correct. Dean J’s blog makes it clear that they know, by school, what makes a top applicant. They are also pretty clear that grades and rigor are far more important than SATs. I know DCUM is obsessed with high SATs, but I get the impression UVA is not.

I know of two students from our lower-tier FCPS school that got accepted to UVA with SATs in the 1350 range. Both are IB diploma candidates. Neither are likely to accept as both favor other schools. Our school tells kids that if you want to get into Tech, W&M or UVA that you need to be an IB diploma candidate because it demonstrates highest rigor. And Tech - which is test optional - specifically told us that they don't look deeply at GPA, too.

DC is also an IB diploma candidate from a “lower-tier” FCPS. Deferred with 4.3 and 1500 SAT. 4-year varsity starter, captain, leadership in non-sports clubs, likely strong rec letter and good essays.

My DS is another IB diploma candidate at a "lower-tier" FCPS. He was deferred with a 4.1 GPA and test optional. He has one C on his transcript (IB Chem sophomore year when he was online for 3 semesters.) I was expecting that he would be outright rejected with that C, but I think because he is in the top 5% of his high school, he has a shot. The only kids at our high school who get into UVA are the full IB diploma candidates OR the URM FARMS student who isn't doing the full diploma but is taking mostly IB courses - maybe taking a Dual Enrollment course instead of the required IB elective. How do I know this? We have so few full diploma students, my kids know all of them and they talk about which schools they are applying to.

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Anonymous wrote:I think people should keep in mind that just like posts about income and weight, these posts are self-selecting. College confidential (and UVA’s own stats) speak to what the actual admitted applicant pool looks like (which is still highly selective but clearly doesn’t require a 1550 SAT).

I am so sorry high stat kids got deferred.

People forget that admissions are holistic, stats are a threshold, not determinative. I do think UVA likely has a very good odea about the extent of grade inflation at VA,DC, and MD schools.

Correct. Dean J’s blog makes it clear that they know, by school, what makes a top applicant. They are also pretty clear that grades and rigor are far more important than SATs. I know DCUM is obsessed with high SATs, but I get the impression UVA is not.

I know of two students from our lower-tier FCPS school that got accepted to UVA with SATs in the 1350 range. Both are IB diploma candidates. Neither are likely to accept as both favor other schools. Our school tells kids that if you want to get into Tech, W&M or UVA that you need to be an IB diploma candidate because it demonstrates highest rigor. And Tech - which is test optional - specifically told us that they don't look deeply at GPA, too.

DC is also an IB diploma candidate from a “lower-tier” FCPS. Deferred with 4.3 and 1500 SAT. 4-year varsity starter, captain, leadership in non-sports clubs, likely strong rec letter and good essays.

Anonymous wrote:DS deferred, OOS MCPS magnet, 1500, 6 APs, 4.7W/4.0 UW.

Legacy?

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Anonymous wrote:In state deferred SAT 1510 UWGPA 4.0 WGPA 4.4. 7AP, leadership, great recs (read them). Lots of volunteer at same place since 9th, 20 hr/week job since 10th. Very upset that he can not get accepted to our state flagship school Ive been funding for the past 19 years that Ive lived in VA with those qualities. UVA needs auto-admits like Texas.

Your tax dollars have funded lots of great schools, too, and I have no doubt he’ll get into one of those.

And very few of your tax dollars are going to UVA anyway. That’s the price they paid for more autonomy from the state.

UVA gets more per in state undergraduate students than most of the state schools.

No, it wanted more freedom so spun itself off a decade ago. It now receives only 6 percent of operating budget from the legislature. This is discussed in UVA’s wiki page. At the same time it did this, UVA put so much effort into successfully building its endowment (with alumni dollars) that the state later tried to get it back. Lol

It is still a state school. The state doesn't have to try to get it back.

Go read wiki on UVA: Administration and organization. The endowment is now $14.5. No, the Commonwealth can’t just go take it. That’s not how endowments work.

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Anonymous wrote:In state deferred SAT 1510 UWGPA 4.0 WGPA 4.4. 7AP, leadership, great recs (read them). Lots of volunteer at same place since 9th, 20 hr/week job since 10th. Very upset that he can not get accepted to our state flagship school Ive been funding for the past 19 years that Ive lived in VA with those qualities. UVA needs auto-admits like Texas.

Your tax dollars have funded lots of great schools, too, and I have no doubt he’ll get into one of those.

And very few of your tax dollars are going to UVA anyway. That’s the price they paid for more autonomy from the state.

UVA gets more per in state undergraduate students than most of the state schools.

No, it wanted more freedom so spun itself off a decade ago. It now receives only 6 percent of operating budget from the legislature. This is discussed in UVA’s wiki page. At the same time it did this, UVA put so much effort into successfully building its endowment (with alumni dollars) that the state later tried to get it back. Lol

It is still a state school. The state doesn't have to try to get it back.