If the end goal is UVA, don’t go to TJ. Stay at base school.

DS got accepted to TJ and I am curious about the lower UVA acceptance rate. UVA acceptance over all has dropped from around 40% to 16%:

"For the class of 2010, UVA admitted 45 percent of its Virginia applicants and 32 percent of its out-of-state applicants." https://uvamagazine.org/articles/college_bound_and_determined#:~:text=For%20the%20class%20of%202010,out%2Dof%2Dstate%20applicants.

"This year, UVA received 58,995 applications to the Class of 2028... ...Out of these applications, 9,665 received offers, yielding an overall acceptance rate of 16.3%."

https://www.crimsoneducation.org/us/blog/uva-acceptance-rate/

So isn't the ste4ady decline of TJ admissions at least in part due to the increasing competitiveness of college admissions?

I mean, they swear up and down that they do not have quotas on TJ students.

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Anonymous wrote:If you get to TJ, college really doesn't matter. These kids are best of the best.

You know they changed the admissions process right? It's practically a random selection of the applicant pool.

Why dredge up this old thread just to troll? TJ admissions is not random. Similar methodology to UCs and UT. Be gone! Take your sour grapes gripes elsewhere.

It's basically random. It is almost a cross section of the applicant pool.
It's an essay exam that mostly asks why you want to go to tj.
University of texas requires standardized exams. University of california went test blind this year and they still look at AP test scores.

You might as well pick your basketball team from a pool of the tallest 75 kids in your school based on an essay about why they want to be on the basketball team because it wouldn't be fair to use a basketball skills tryout because some kids have more access to basketball training than others.

In the run up to this racially discriminatory change to the admissions process we heard time and again how colleges did it differently so we should emulate them. Well, now colleges are reinstating test requirements, doesn't that mean we should reinstate the test at tj? Or are these arguments only valid if they support your war on merit?

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Anonymous wrote:If you get to TJ, college really doesn't matter. These kids are best of the best.

You know they changed the admissions process right? It's practically a random selection of the applicant pool.

Why dredge up this old thread just to troll? TJ admissions is not random. Similar methodology to UCs and UT. Be gone! Take your sour grapes gripes elsewhere.

Anonymous wrote:If you get to TJ, college really doesn't matter. These kids are best of the best.

You know they changed the admissions process right? It's practically a random selection of the applicant pool.

All those who are crying and whining about “merit” - cof23 was admitted using the old admission standardized testing.

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TJ had become so monolithic and competitive it was driving students away. A more balanced population that represents all the students in the area will hopefully bring more talented students back.

+1

You know that there is a big waiting list to get into TJ right? Most will not be offered a spot.

Plenty of high achieving students stopped applying. Look at the high numbers of national merit scholars at local publics. They’d rather stay at base school and have a more traditional high school experience.

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TJ had become so monolithic and competitive it was driving students away. A more balanced population that represents all the students in the area will hopefully bring more talented students back.

+1

Underachievers were underrepresented.

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TJ had become so monolithic and competitive it was driving students away. A more balanced population that represents all the students in the area will hopefully bring more talented students back.

+1

You know that there is a big waiting list to get into TJ right? Most will not be offered a spot.

TJ had become so monolithic and competitive it was driving students away. A more balanced population that represents all the students in the area will hopefully bring more talented students back.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:NEW. TJ HS class of 2023 admission decisions have been published. https://issuu.com/tjtoday/docs/2023seniorissue

Begins on page 18.

UVA-44
UMD-29
WM-24
VT-23
UIUC-18

Purdue 17

Pitt used to be a go to school and Michigan was high for a few years. Now UMD, UIUC, and Purdue. There seems to be a word of mouth effect or perhaps a concerted recruiting effort from certain schools.

VT is actually up significantly from last year, which was only 7 or something like that. I have always been surprised by the low numbers matriculating there given VT is very large, in-state, and tech focused.

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Anonymous wrote:The worst overall college acceptance in TJ’s history. But won’t be the worst. Decades from now TJ will be just a beautiful memory. If anyone is still nostalgic by then. The way that FCPS is treating its schools, not just TJ.

What is your point?

The point is that FCPS is doing its best to destroy academic excellence at TJ and other schools in the name of equity.

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Let's leave meritocracy to the Chinese. It is clear they aren't advancing in any significant way.

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Anonymous wrote:The worst overall college acceptance in TJ’s history. But won’t be the worst. Decades from now TJ will be just a beautiful memory. If anyone is still nostalgic by then. The way that FCPS is treating its schools, not just TJ.

What is your point?

The point is that FCPS is doing its best to destroy academic excellence at TJ and other schools in the name of equity.

That allegation has been proven wrong and the same could be said for all the Top Colleges because they have similar policies. Academic excellence is not owned by TJ, it can be achieved anywhere and many different ways. The real issue is in your head.

Destroying not just TJ. Other schools too. McLean and Langley’s matriculations are below expectations too. Can’t put all the blame on FCPS though. Some college AOs favor poorer school districts. They punish students from “wealthy” zip codes.

If McLean's college destinations are below expectations this year, then you have unrealistic expectations. It's sending at least 14 kids to Ivies + MIT and roughly 40 kids to UVA, which is more than usual and high for a neighborhood high school in FCPS that also sent a lot of kids to TJ in the Class of 2023. I assume Langley's matriculations were similar, but can't say for sure.

FWIW, McLean also beat TJ in the It's Academic playoff that was televised last weekend.

Not surprised. Students haven’t wanted to go to TJ for the last 5 years.

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Anonymous wrote:The worst overall college acceptance in TJ’s history. But won’t be the worst. Decades from now TJ will be just a beautiful memory. If anyone is still nostalgic by then. The way that FCPS is treating its schools, not just TJ.

What is your point?

The point is that FCPS is doing its best to destroy academic excellence at TJ and other schools in the name of equity.

That allegation has been proven wrong and the same could be said for all the Top Colleges because they have similar policies. Academic excellence is not owned by TJ, it can be achieved anywhere and many different ways. The real issue is in your head.

Destroying not just TJ. Other schools too. McLean and Langley’s matriculations are below expectations too. Can’t put all the blame on FCPS though. Some college AOs favor poorer school districts. They punish students from “wealthy” zip codes.

If McLean's college destinations are below expectations this year, then you have unrealistic expectations. It's sending at least 14 kids to Ivies + MIT and roughly 40 kids to UVA, which is more than usual and high for a neighborhood high school in FCPS that also sent a lot of kids to TJ in the Class of 2023. I assume Langley's matriculations were similar, but can't say for sure.

FWIW, McLean also beat TJ in the It's Academic playoff that was televised last weekend.

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The worst in history. But believe me, it will get even worse in the future.

Hard to say it's the worst, still on par with other years, maybe a little down.
Certainly there are some students are very disappointed, on the flip side, there are also some lucky ones.