Anonymous
04/29/2023 18:26
Subject: Republicans and the debt ceiling
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A big chunk of debt came from massive tax cuts for the rich and big corporations. Those need to be rolled back.
It's bizarre that Republicans seem to think the debt is entirely because of spending and refuse to acknowledge that their own tax cuts added trillions to the debt.
A lot of the deficit now is from paying interest on all the debt that's been piled up.
You can't balance the budget with tax increases on the rich. It will have to hit the middle class. Take a look at Europe's tax brackets to see how it works.
For example, Denmark-
8% flat rate as labour market rate,
12% on income to $70000, 15% on income above that.
Doesn't seem so bad, but then there is a 25% rate on top of that as a municipal tax. It ranges from 22-27% based on location. It's not clear if this can be deducted from state tax(which we would call a federal tax)
They also have other taxes like share taxes and VAT taxes.
We should jack up taxes on welfare recipients.
Maybe then they won't vote for goodies constantly because they don't ever have to pay for it.
I want a lot of pain everywhere so you can know the full impact of today's DNC.
There's a place that should be an absolute paradise for someone like you - low taxes, no welfare moochers, minimal government services, intervention or regulation... It's Somalia. That's what your ideas would turn us into - a third-world nation.
Anonymous
04/29/2023 18:24
Subject: Republicans and the debt ceiling
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A big chunk of debt came from massive tax cuts for the rich and big corporations. Those need to be rolled back.
It's bizarre that Republicans seem to think the debt is entirely because of spending and refuse to acknowledge that their own tax cuts added trillions to the debt.
No debt came from tax cuts. All debt is created by demanding things the federal govt is not chartered to do.
That charter is found in the U.S. Constitution. That is its only purpose. No more, no less.
ABSOLUTELY FALSE. Republican tax cuts created trillions in shortfalls, which is DEBT. You sound like a complete idiot.
As for the charter found in the US Constitution I'd also remind you that the charter clearly says
"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;"
Common defense AND GENERAL WELFARE. That's a broad mandate that can't be ignored.
Anonymous
04/29/2023 16:47
Subject: Republicans and the debt ceiling
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A big chunk of debt came from massive tax cuts for the rich and big corporations. Those need to be rolled back.
It's bizarre that Republicans seem to think the debt is entirely because of spending and refuse to acknowledge that their own tax cuts added trillions to the debt.
A lot of the deficit now is from paying interest on all the debt that's been piled up.
You can't balance the budget with tax increases on the rich. It will have to hit the middle class. Take a look at Europe's tax brackets to see how it works.
For example, Denmark-
8% flat rate as labour market rate,
12% on income to $70000, 15% on income above that.
Doesn't seem so bad, but then there is a 25% rate on top of that as a municipal tax. It ranges from 22-27% based on location. It's not clear if this can be deducted from state tax(which we would call a federal tax)
They also have other taxes like share taxes and VAT taxes.
We should jack up taxes on welfare recipients.
Maybe then they won't vote for goodies constantly because they don't ever have to pay for it.
I want a lot of pain everywhere so you can know the full impact of today's DNC.
Anonymous
04/29/2023 16:44
Subject: Republicans and the debt ceiling
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A big chunk of debt came from massive tax cuts for the rich and big corporations. Those need to be rolled back.
It's bizarre that Republicans seem to think the debt is entirely because of spending and refuse to acknowledge that their own tax cuts added trillions to the debt.
No debt came from tax cuts. All debt is created by demanding things the federal govt is not chartered to do.
That charter is found in the U.S. Constitution. That is its only purpose. No more, no less.
The debt ceiling is being hit because of spending and lack of revenue caused by Trump and the GOP....the US needs to pay its bills. It has nothing at all to do with new spending. That would be what the forward budget is for.
So basically we are paying for the lack of revenue from the unfunded tax cuts. But people like you either ignore it or don't understand that.
No. You should try Earth sometime.
Anonymous
04/27/2023 15:29
Subject: Republicans and the debt ceiling
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A big chunk of debt came from massive tax cuts for the rich and big corporations. Those need to be rolled back.
It's bizarre that Republicans seem to think the debt is entirely because of spending and refuse to acknowledge that their own tax cuts added trillions to the debt.
A lot of the deficit now is from paying interest on all the debt that's been piled up.
You can't balance the budget with tax increases on the rich. It will have to hit the middle class. Take a look at Europe's tax brackets to see how it works.
For example, Denmark-
8% flat rate as labour market rate,
12% on income to $70000, 15% on income above that.
Doesn't seem so bad, but then there is a 25% rate on top of that as a municipal tax. It ranges from 22-27% based on location. It's not clear if this can be deducted from state tax(which we would call a federal tax)
They also have other taxes like share taxes and VAT taxes.
Rolling back the trump taxes combined with deciding that we don't need the Marines to have an air force barely eclipsed by Navy's air force which is second only to the Air Force's
Anonymous
04/27/2023 15:22
Subject: Republicans and the debt ceiling
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A big chunk of debt came from massive tax cuts for the rich and big corporations. Those need to be rolled back.
It's bizarre that Republicans seem to think the debt is entirely because of spending and refuse to acknowledge that their own tax cuts added trillions to the debt.
No debt came from tax cuts. All debt is created by demanding things the federal govt is not chartered to do.
That charter is found in the U.S. Constitution. That is its only purpose. No more, no less.
So dumb
Time to default. Responsible government means balanced budgets. If you can't get your politicians to do that well then we default. Kudos, to the outliers for saying no. A default now is better then a default during World War 3.
Yes let’s listen to the prepper who is anticipating ww3 rather than respected economists who are warning us about the certain collapse of our economy if we default. Shouldn’t you be somewhere in the woods of WV burying ammo something?
Anonymous
04/27/2023 15:17
Subject: Republicans and the debt ceiling
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A big chunk of debt came from massive tax cuts for the rich and big corporations. Those need to be rolled back.
It's bizarre that Republicans seem to think the debt is entirely because of spending and refuse to acknowledge that their own tax cuts added trillions to the debt.
No debt came from tax cuts. All debt is created by demanding things the federal govt is not chartered to do.
That charter is found in the U.S. Constitution. That is its only purpose. No more, no less.
Your dogmatic reasoning is unconvincing.
Anonymous
04/27/2023 14:34
Subject: Republicans and the debt ceiling
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A big chunk of debt came from massive tax cuts for the rich and big corporations. Those need to be rolled back.
It's bizarre that Republicans seem to think the debt is entirely because of spending and refuse to acknowledge that their own tax cuts added trillions to the debt.
No debt came from tax cuts. All debt is created by demanding things the federal govt is not chartered to do.
That charter is found in the U.S. Constitution. That is its only purpose. No more, no less.
So dumb
Time to default. Responsible government means balanced budgets. If you can't get your politicians to do that well then we default. Kudos, to the outliers for saying no. A default now is better then a default during World War 3.
Anonymous
04/27/2023 14:25
Subject: Republicans and the debt ceiling
Anonymous wrote:A big chunk of debt came from massive tax cuts for the rich and big corporations. Those need to be rolled back.
It's bizarre that Republicans seem to think the debt is entirely because of spending and refuse to acknowledge that their own tax cuts added trillions to the debt.
A lot of the deficit now is from paying interest on all the debt that's been piled up.
You can't balance the budget with tax increases on the rich. It will have to hit the middle class. Take a look at Europe's tax brackets to see how it works.
For example, Denmark-
8% flat rate as labour market rate,
12% on income to $70000, 15% on income above that.
Doesn't seem so bad, but then there is a 25% rate on top of that as a municipal tax. It ranges from 22-27% based on location. It's not clear if this can be deducted from state tax(which we would call a federal tax)
They also have other taxes like share taxes and VAT taxes.
Anonymous
04/27/2023 13:55
Subject: Republicans and the debt ceiling
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A big chunk of debt came from massive tax cuts for the rich and big corporations. Those need to be rolled back.
It's bizarre that Republicans seem to think the debt is entirely because of spending and refuse to acknowledge that their own tax cuts added trillions to the debt.
No debt came from tax cuts. All debt is created by demanding things the federal govt is not chartered to do.
That charter is found in the U.S. Constitution. That is its only purpose. No more, no less.
The debt ceiling is being hit because of spending and lack of revenue caused by Trump and the GOP....the US needs to pay its bills. It has nothing at all to do with new spending. That would be what the forward budget is for.
So basically we are paying for the lack of revenue from the unfunded tax cuts. But people like you either ignore it or don't understand that.
Anonymous
04/27/2023 13:53
Subject: Re:Republicans and the debt ceiling
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
So manchin thinks biden should agree to cuts in Medicaid and SNAP?
Cut cut cut. The Health and Human Services budget is 50% more than the defense budget and keeps growing. Put the brakes on it.
83% of the HHS budget is Medicare and Medicaid. Other parts are research (like cancer research). Here is a copy of the 2024 proposed budget. What specifically would you cut or would you just like it to be cuts across the board and at what percentage? Would you cut Medicare and Medicaid reimbursements or services?
https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/fy-2024-budget-in-brief.pdf
10-15% cut of the overall HHS budget for the next 3 years. Heavy layoffs and whole departments gone. All those GS-14s and above get pushed to private industry. The days of hundred billion contracts to big pharma by .gov are over. Medicaid food delivery? No. The damn thing is gobbling up everything else. Many cabinets are like it. Dept of Agriculture is a front organization for food stamps and EBT. The dept of Energy produces no energy; it just attacks the energy industry. The Dept of Commerce does it's level best to make us uncompetitive globally with all its rules. This big govt leviathan is out of control, it's operated by an administrative state of unelected bueaucrats answerable to no one and it's off the rails. Look at the DOT and FEMA response to accidents. It's a travesty and their employees are very well paid. Govt fails us again and again and throwing good money after bad at it is not a fix.
This country is going broke BECAUSE of Washington DC. The masterminds sitting there in their temperature controlled offices all day making proclamations from their ivory towers are our undoing.
Exactly right. And the response by the Dems is to throw the doors open to everyone, which creates more of a need for food stamps, EBT, and forces low income Americans to compete for the same jobs.
Illegals are not eligible for food stamps, EBT etc (and it is all called SNAP now, if you know anything about how this all works, which, clearly you don't)
Anonymous
04/27/2023 13:52
Subject: Re:Republicans and the debt ceiling
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Wow, that legislation is a fossil fuel industry giveaway. Basically repeals any credit for clean energy, including zero emissions nuclear power! Wtf. Why would you want to incentivize emissions from nuclear power plants? It makes no sense.
Excellent. Kill all tax payer subsidies for clean energy. If it's important to you, you'll buy it as a consumer.
If not, it goes away. And drop the "clean energy" monikers while you hate on everyone over corporate subsidies.
Solar panels and EV batteries contain a lot of nasty chemicals and heavy metals and you never were happy about clean coal technology because it took one of your wedge issues away. I'm tired of the well-crafted lies by the Sierra Club and DNC.
You want it, you pay for it and stop abusing working people.
Then kill all the subsidies for dirty energy too, and have people pay the actual costs in terms of pollution and environmental degredation and health impacts as well.
Anonymous
04/24/2023 21:26
Subject: Republicans and the debt ceiling
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A big chunk of debt came from massive tax cuts for the rich and big corporations. Those need to be rolled back.
It's bizarre that Republicans seem to think the debt is entirely because of spending and refuse to acknowledge that their own tax cuts added trillions to the debt.
No debt came from tax cuts. All debt is created by demanding things the federal govt is not chartered to do.
That charter is found in the U.S. Constitution. That is its only purpose. No more, no less.
So dumb