At this point, it's not looking like it.

There is a rabid anti-umich poster on here who is obsessed with the south.

Can anyone comment on the School of Music, Theater and Dance at the University of Michigan? Reputation, teaching quality, opportunities etc. Thanks

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Anonymous wrote:DD (HS junior) is set on this school though she has never been. I know it’s a good school, but is it really all THAT?

It is expensive OOS. Can it really be all that different academically from other state schools? Is it hyped because of the sports?

When I ask her why she is so certain she shrugs her shoulders and says, “I don’t know. I just am.”

We don’t have any family members that go there, so not sure where she is getting it from. She said she mentioned it to the guidance counselor, not the other way around.

I'd advise her to go back to the drawing board. You need more than this.

+1. At 73K a year the adults need to step in. At least visit!

Not sure where you get 73 a year. With DC Tag, it is 42k plus room and board.

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Anonymous wrote:Great safety if you get rejected from Boston College, Wake Forest, Georgetown, Vanderbilt and USC.

I’d add NYU, Villanova and Tufts and I’d mull adding Miami (FL) to the list. In the real world, Michigan is competing against George Washington and Wisconsin.

My kid was accepted to several of these schools and chose Michigan. Unless you WANT to be in Boston or Nashville, Michigan is simply a better and more fun school than everything on the list, except Wisconsin, which is more fun, but isn't Michigan academically.

If you grew up local DC, the choice between Georgetown and Michigan would be close, but the vibes and options are very different. GWU wouldn't be anywhere close on the spectrum.

Michigan loses every cross-admit battle with GU. Wealthy kids go to Michigan when they’re rejected by GU. See the Fox News anchor’s son for a prominent example who had to go to UVA after GU rejected him.

My DC chose Michigan over GU. Ultimately wanted to go out of state for college, we aren't Catholic, and DC objectively thought Michigan was the better school. Obviously other people are free to make their own decisions.

Michigan resident here. Went to UM for grad school. It has always been known for grad schools. Social sciences rank with Harvard and Stanford. Some points:

- Michigan has grown in recent years. Now 50,000 students

- sports is big, but not overwhelmingly.

- even in-state, you can't be a slouch and get in. We live in one of the Detroit suburbs and in a very good school district, plenty of kids weren't accepted. Have no idea why people think it is easy.

- funny but have always thought Michigan State has more school spirit. Their graduates tend to stay here, marry someone from here, and die here.

- for OOS? That's their cash cow. Unless you want to be on Wall Street or a big company in engineering, save it for grad school.

- like anywhere, Michigan is good for a certain kind of student. You need to not be afraid to get out there and meet people and explore.

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Anonymous wrote:Great safety if you get rejected from Boston College, Wake Forest, Georgetown, Vanderbilt and USC.

I’d add NYU, Villanova and Tufts and I’d mull adding Miami (FL) to the list. In the real world, Michigan is competing against George Washington and Wisconsin.

My kid was accepted to several of these schools and chose Michigan. Unless you WANT to be in Boston or Nashville, Michigan is simply a better and more fun school than everything on the list, except Wisconsin, which is more fun, but isn't Michigan academically.

If you grew up local DC, the choice between Georgetown and Michigan would be close, but the vibes and options are very different. GWU wouldn't be anywhere close on the spectrum.

Michigan loses every cross-admit battle with GU. Wealthy kids go to Michigan when they’re rejected by GU. See the Fox News anchor’s son for a prominent example who had to go to UVA after GU rejected him.

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Georgetown+University&with=University+of+Virginia


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UVA not as desirable as Michigan.

and vanderbilt beats georgetown on parchment, but no one would choose vanderbilt over gtown imo - parchment often has wacky results like this

I would choose Vanderbilt over Georgetown.

I was thinking the same thing and scrolled down to see someone had already commented this. And I would choose UVA and Michigan over Georgetown. One of the most overrated schools in the top 25.

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Anonymous wrote:Great safety if you get rejected from Boston College, Wake Forest, Georgetown, Vanderbilt and USC.

I’d add NYU, Villanova and Tufts and I’d mull adding Miami (FL) to the list. In the real world, Michigan is competing against George Washington and Wisconsin.

My kid was accepted to several of these schools and chose Michigan. Unless you WANT to be in Boston or Nashville, Michigan is simply a better and more fun school than everything on the list, except Wisconsin, which is more fun, but isn't Michigan academically.

If you grew up local DC, the choice between Georgetown and Michigan would be close, but the vibes and options are very different. GWU wouldn't be anywhere close on the spectrum.

Michigan loses every cross-admit battle with GU. Wealthy kids go to Michigan when they’re rejected by GU. See the Fox News anchor’s son for a prominent example who had to go to UVA after GU rejected him.

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Georgetown+University&with=University+of+Virginia


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UVA not as desirable as Michigan.

and vanderbilt beats georgetown on parchment, but no one would choose vanderbilt over gtown imo - parchment often has wacky results like this

I would choose Vanderbilt over Georgetown.

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60-40 on Parchment. So much for your expertise.

Tailgate State alums citing Parchment as a source. Too funny.

….as opposed to pseudo-intellectual snobs who cite no sources for their biased observations.

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60-40 on Parchment. So much for your expertise.

Tailgate State alums citing Parchment as a source. Too funny.

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Anonymous wrote:Great safety if you get rejected from Boston College, Wake Forest, Georgetown, Vanderbilt and USC.

I’d add NYU, Villanova and Tufts and I’d mull adding Miami (FL) to the list. In the real world, Michigan is competing against George Washington and Wisconsin.

This needs a PSA to not imbibe hot drinks when consuming. IDK anyone in DCs' HS classes who would consider Michigan below NYU, Tufts, and Villanova. And this is a crowd heavy on HYPSM/top NESCACs legacies.

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Anonymous wrote:DD (HS junior) is set on this school though she has never been. I know it’s a good school, but is it really all THAT?

It is expensive OOS. Can it really be all that different academically from other state schools? Is it hyped because of the sports?

When I ask her why she is so certain she shrugs her shoulders and says, “I don’t know. I just am.”

We don’t have any family members that go there, so not sure where she is getting it from. She said she mentioned it to the guidance counselor, not the other way around.

I'd advise her to go back to the drawing board. You need more than this.

+1. At 73K a year the adults need to step in. At least visit!

Anonymous wrote:Great safety if you get rejected from Boston College, Wake Forest, Georgetown, Vanderbilt and USC.

TBH, I only know one kid who applied to/accepted by Michigan after being rejected by Vanderbilt. All the other Michigan students I know applied straight out.

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Anonymous wrote:Place is full of OOS - mostly NY, NJ and California. Entitled brats. Very greek and juvenile place.

Horrible weather and a big chink of students have a terrible experience on North Campus. Read about it. If you are assigned there - good luck.

Way way way overrated for undergrad.

Way way underrated for undergrad. How do I know this? The juvenile Michigan hating troll that keeps reopening this thread every few days. Somehow feels threatened that Michigan is a popular school. Michigan is not very Greek at all. Approximately 17 percent of the undergraduate population are in fraternities/sororities. That’s about average for a university. Michigan also has a 97% return rate after freshman year. That doesn’t lend itself to having a terrible experience on the campus.

If you subtract anti-social kids, it shakes out to about every other classmate is in a frat or sorority and they control the undergraduate social scene.

What a bizarre take.

No, the greek system doesn't control the social scene at Michigan. The school is too big, and there are too many other things to do in Ann Arbor for that to be possible. I went to U of M for 4 years, and only went to a handful of frat parties early on. There was no lack of social activities.

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Anonymous wrote:Great safety if you get rejected from Boston College, Wake Forest, Georgetown, Vanderbilt and USC.

I’d add NYU, Villanova and Tufts and I’d mull adding Miami (FL) to the list. In the real world, Michigan is competing against George Washington and Wisconsin.

My kid was accepted to several of these schools and chose Michigan. Unless you WANT to be in Boston or Nashville, Michigan is simply a better and more fun school than everything on the list, except Wisconsin, which is more fun, but isn't Michigan academically.

If you grew up local DC, the choice between Georgetown and Michigan would be close, but the vibes and options are very different. GWU wouldn't be anywhere close on the spectrum.

Michigan loses every cross-admit battle with GU. Wealthy kids go to Michigan when they’re rejected by GU. See the Fox News anchor’s son for a prominent example who had to go to UVA after GU rejected him.

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Georgetown+University&with=University+of+Virginia


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UVA not as desirable as Michigan.

and vanderbilt beats georgetown on parchment, but no one would choose vanderbilt over gtown imo - parchment often has wacky results like this