Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 19:56     Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let the child be American. Not some ridiculous refugee.

They cannot. This is a violation of International law. The US court system cannot support what is essentially an egregious case of child trafficking. The Masts kidnapped the child and brought the child across international borders. There is no legitimate legal claim by the Masts that would allow them to keep the child. If the court system does not void the adoption, this will be terrible for the US internationally.


I’m not sure but I thought PP was saying to give the child citizenship, not saying return her to the Masts. The state department could just give her citizenship under one of the special hardship provisions, I think. It seems like the least we can do for this girl after the American military and court system messed up her life in this way.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 19:49     Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The child is five now. Likely some shared custody might be in the best interest of the child. For the sake of the child, being ripped away from your family to stay with people you don't know at 5 would be quite traumatic.
j
You can’t just go around stealing other people’s babies.


The Mast's adoption, guardianship, and custody have all been voided now. She will go to her family in Texas, after the hearing.

She should have immediately been returned to her family. There is no need for further hearings given the delays to date.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 19:13     Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The child is five now. Likely some shared custody might be in the best interest of the child. For the sake of the child, being ripped away from your family to stay with people you don't know at 5 would be quite traumatic.


Living in a child-stealing family would be traumatic. Leaving them to live with her family is in her best interests.


It's all going to be traumatic, but that doesn't mean the courts shouldn't do what is right here. I think it's fairly egregious that this has dragged on and that some sort of visitation with the family of origin has not already been enforced.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 18:44     Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
Anonymous wrote:Let the child be American. Not some ridiculous refugee.

They cannot. This is a violation of International law. The US court system cannot support what is essentially an egregious case of child trafficking. The Masts kidnapped the child and brought the child across international borders. There is no legitimate legal claim by the Masts that would allow them to keep the child. If the court system does not void the adoption, this will be terrible for the US internationally.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 18:33     Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The child is five now. Likely some shared custody might be in the best interest of the child. For the sake of the child, being ripped away from your family to stay with people you don't know at 5 would be quite traumatic.
j
You can’t just go around stealing other people’s babies.


The Mast's adoption, guardianship, and custody have all been voided now. She will go to her family in Texas, after the hearing.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 18:32     Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
Anonymous wrote:Update: an appellate court has ruled that a U.S. Marine should never have been granted an adoption of an Afghan war orphan and voided the custody order he’s relied on to raise the girl for nearly three years.

https://wset.com/news/local/court-rules-against-virginia-marines-adoption-of-afghan-orphan-separated-from-her-family-joshua-mast-fluvanna-county-central-virginia-taliban-war-july-2024


We know, this is what we have been talking about. The update.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 18:20     Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The child is five now. Likely some shared custody might be in the best interest of the child. For the sake of the child, being ripped away from your family to stay with people you don't know at 5 would be quite traumatic.

That was the Masts goal in delaying the case and keeping her this long, so it would be rewarding them.


At the end of the day rewarding or punishing the adults should be secondary to limiting the trauma to the child. Ripping a five year old away from the only family they have known would be horrible for the child and would likely have long lasting impacts.

? Imagine if someone kidnapped your baby to raise them in Canada, and after 5 years, you find that child. Would you say, "oh, it's too traumatic for them.. leave my child in Canada with the kidnappers".

FFS
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 18:18     Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
Anonymous wrote:Let the child be American. Not some ridiculous refugee.

? Refugees can become Americans. Lots of Cuban refugees are Americans now and vote for Rs.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 18:11     Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
Stealing children isn't something that a civilized society can support. Some of you are lost and it's concerning that you're parents.

If you think it's OK to steal a child you need to think about the person you've become.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 18:08     Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The child is five now. Likely some shared custody might be in the best interest of the child. For the sake of the child, being ripped away from your family to stay with people you don't know at 5 would be quite traumatic.

That was the Masts goal in delaying the case and keeping her this long, so it would be rewarding them.


At the end of the day rewarding or punishing the adults should be secondary to limiting the trauma to the child. Ripping a five year old away from the only family they have known would be horrible for the child and would likely have long lasting impacts.

LOL, the Masts have found this thread.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 18:07     Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
Anonymous wrote:The child is five now. Likely some shared custody might be in the best interest of the child. For the sake of the child, being ripped away from your family to stay with people you don't know at 5 would be quite traumatic.
j
You can’t just go around stealing other people’s babies.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 18:06     Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The child is five now. Likely some shared custody might be in the best interest of the child. For the sake of the child, being ripped away from your family to stay with people you don't know at 5 would be quite traumatic.

That was the Masts goal in delaying the case and keeping her this long, so it would be rewarding them.


At the end of the day rewarding or punishing the adults should be secondary to limiting the trauma to the child. Ripping a five year old away from the only family they have known would be horrible for the child and would likely have long lasting impacts.


Moving her would, undoubtedly, be hard, but kids who face sudden changes in caregivers can recover. Growing up and realizing your parents were kidnappers would be hard too.

They also need to think about precedent. International kidnapping isn't something that our court system can reward. Kidnappers can't get the message that if they drag out the custody battle long enough they can keep the child.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 17:58     Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
Update: an appellate court has ruled that a U.S. Marine should never have been granted an adoption of an Afghan war orphan and voided the custody order he’s relied on to raise the girl for nearly three years.

https://wset.com/news/local/court-rules-against-virginia-marines-adoption-of-afghan-orphan-separated-from-her-family-joshua-mast-fluvanna-county-central-virginia-taliban-war-july-2024
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 16:37     Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The child is five now. Likely some shared custody might be in the best interest of the child. For the sake of the child, being ripped away from your family to stay with people you don't know at 5 would be quite traumatic.

That was the Masts goal in delaying the case and keeping her this long, so it would be rewarding them.


At the end of the day rewarding or punishing the adults should be secondary to limiting the trauma to the child. Ripping a five year old away from the only family they have known would be horrible for the child and would likely have long lasting impacts.


Yes, but she will eventually learn that the Masts stole her and that the US government and courts did not protect her. Moving her to her Texas family would be best for her.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 16:00     Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let the child be American. Not some ridiculous refugee.


This is not our call to make. She is Afghani, with living Afghani relatives who want to raise her. We can't just keep her here because 'we're better."

+1 Also the Afghani relatives also live in America.