Anonymous
10/13/2022 12:32
Subject: Re:Why are there no safety rules regarding children on bikes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
It’s not infeasible, it’s just that it would lead to people being cited or ticketed in situations that many reasonable observers would say don’t merit a penalty. But sometimes that’s just how the law is. My bigger concern with helmet laws is that invariably, white cyclists would ride without a helmet whenever they want, but the laws would become a pretext to stop Black or Latino cyclists, or would be a charge that gets tacked on if they’re involved in some other entanglement with the law.
This is why DC got rid of bicycle registration a few years ago. It was only being enforced against minorities.
Seat belt enforcement is no longer a primary offense either, i.e. it can't be a reason to pull you over.
Really????
True in Virginia.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seat_belt_laws_in_the_United_States
Anonymous
10/13/2022 11:00
Subject: Why are there no safety rules regarding children on bikes?
Anonymous wrote:Police don't even pull over drivers for traffic violations, you think they're going to pull over bikers?
Not only this, but that people think that police should prioritize pulling bikers over for a lack of a helmet, vs drivers for not obeying basic laws like rolling through stop signs, speeding, and more?
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Anonymous
10/13/2022 10:58
Subject: Why are there no safety rules regarding children on bikes?
Anonymous wrote:There are no studies that prove that helmets cause less brain damage.
This is false. Brain damage is still possible but only for the youths who make bad risk assessments.
Anonymous
10/13/2022 10:52
Subject: Why are there no safety rules regarding children on bikes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Amazing how I’ve survived 40 years of biking as a kid and adult biking… a lot… never once wearing a helmet with no injuries. Safety is more than regulations and rules. It’s being responsible and aware.
Amazing how ignorance of probabilities and survivorship bias works.
No. The decisions are made based on risk. Just like with any activity, competence has a very significant effect on your risk.
LOL.
Anonymous
10/13/2022 10:38
Subject: Why are there no safety rules regarding children on bikes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Amazing how I’ve survived 40 years of biking as a kid and adult biking… a lot… never once wearing a helmet with no injuries. Safety is more than regulations and rules. It’s being responsible and aware.
Amazing how ignorance of probabilities and survivorship bias works.
No. The decisions are made based on risk. Just like with any activity, competence has a very significant effect on your risk.
Anonymous
10/13/2022 10:35
Subject: Why are there no safety rules regarding children on bikes?
Anonymous wrote:Amazing how I’ve survived 40 years of biking as a kid and adult biking… a lot… never once wearing a helmet with no injuries. Safety is more than regulations and rules. It’s being responsible and aware.
Amazing how ignorance of probabilities and survivorship bias works.
Anonymous
10/13/2022 10:32
Subject: Why are there no safety rules regarding children on bikes?
Amazing how I’ve survived 40 years of biking as a kid and adult biking… a lot… never once wearing a helmet with no injuries. Safety is more than regulations and rules. It’s being responsible and aware.
Anonymous
10/13/2022 09:53
Subject: Why are there no safety rules regarding children on bikes?
There are no studies that prove that helmets cause less brain damage.
Anonymous
10/13/2022 09:09
Subject: Re:Why are there no safety rules regarding children on bikes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
It’s not infeasible, it’s just that it would lead to people being cited or ticketed in situations that many reasonable observers would say don’t merit a penalty. But sometimes that’s just how the law is. My bigger concern with helmet laws is that invariably, white cyclists would ride without a helmet whenever they want, but the laws would become a pretext to stop Black or Latino cyclists, or would be a charge that gets tacked on if they’re involved in some other entanglement with the law.
This is why DC got rid of bicycle registration a few years ago. It was only being enforced against minorities.
Oh, that's good -- glad to hear it.
Anonymous
10/13/2022 09:09
Subject: Why are there no safety rules regarding children on bikes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because legislation doesn’t protect people. Common sense is what protects people. Some people have more than others…
Common sense would tell you not to ride a bike on a busy street in a large city
So when people get hit by cars, it's the fault of the people who get hit by cars, not the fault of the people driving. Cool.
Anonymous
10/13/2022 09:03
Subject: Re:Why are there no safety rules regarding children on bikes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
It’s not infeasible, it’s just that it would lead to people being cited or ticketed in situations that many reasonable observers would say don’t merit a penalty. But sometimes that’s just how the law is. My bigger concern with helmet laws is that invariably, white cyclists would ride without a helmet whenever they want, but the laws would become a pretext to stop Black or Latino cyclists, or would be a charge that gets tacked on if they’re involved in some other entanglement with the law.
This is why DC got rid of bicycle registration a few years ago. It was only being enforced against minorities.
Seat belt enforcement is no longer a primary offense either, i.e. it can't be a reason to pull you over.
Really????
Anonymous
10/13/2022 09:03
Subject: Re:Why are there no safety rules regarding children on bikes?
There's no cheaper, easier and quicker way to reduce head injuries among cyclists than requiring them to wear helmets.
Anonymous
10/13/2022 07:39
Subject: Re:Why are there no safety rules regarding children on bikes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
It’s not infeasible, it’s just that it would lead to people being cited or ticketed in situations that many reasonable observers would say don’t merit a penalty. But sometimes that’s just how the law is. My bigger concern with helmet laws is that invariably, white cyclists would ride without a helmet whenever they want, but the laws would become a pretext to stop Black or Latino cyclists, or would be a charge that gets tacked on if they’re involved in some other entanglement with the law.
This is why DC got rid of bicycle registration a few years ago. It was only being enforced against minorities.
Seat belt enforcement is no longer a primary offense either, i.e. it can't be a reason to pull you over.
Anonymous
10/13/2022 07:22
Subject: Why are there no safety rules regarding children on bikes?
brain damage is good
Anonymous
10/13/2022 07:10
Subject: Why are there no safety rules regarding children on bikes?
Police don't even pull over drivers for traffic violations, you think they're going to pull over bikers?