Anonymous wrote:Sororities are similar to the secret societies, finals clubs and eating clubs that exist at universities- if you choose to partake in rush and see benefits from sorority life great. If you see these organizations as exclusionary and wrong, don’t participate.
Girls who are interested in sorority rush as incoming freshmen would benefit from talking to older girls they know who have been through the process to get insight.

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Anonymous wrote:Sororities are no different from the real world where, like it or not, we’re all judged and stationed based on qualities such as beauty, wealth, intelligence, likeability, athleticism, social connections. These factors impact us all throughout our lives. They determine whether you’re in the popular crowd in grade school, what schools you and your kids attend (top public schools bc you can afford the right neighborhood, private schools bc you have the means to pay tuition), what sport teams you can join, what colleges you get into, what social clubs you are invited to join, what social circles you’ll be in, what jobs you are offered and how far you progress in those jobs. Getting promoted to the executive level really isn’t that different from sorority rush.

Society, both ours and those of most developed cultures, are based on exclusion and a social hierarchy. Maybe this is unfair, but it’s the way the world had worked since the begging of civilization. To deny this and pick on sororities as being an exception is unfair.

Lol I can’t tell if this is sarcasm.

Some of us prefer a democratic society where hierarchies aren’t supported and encouraged. Some of us are more civilized than our ancestors and aren’t threatened by equality.

You raise the point about why Greek is so popular in the south though. Southern culture is all about hierarchy which is why they love that the “tier” term continues and they love that some girls are heartbroken at the end. It all helps perpetuate that there is a “top” class of people.

Different strokes for different folks. I like sororities (and loved my house), you don't. Oh well. I'm not right and you're not wrong. I am not going to be kowtowed by your insecurities and feelings of inferiority.

If you are a parent, I encourage you to raise a strong, independent girl, someone who can get along with others despite their differences. You know, someone you're not.

Enjoy fascism then.
I encourage you to read more history, sociology, and political psychology.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to a school with no sororities, so I am reading this thread with zero knowledge and total fascination. What does any of this have to do with college? It is such a strange thing.

Me too. I intentionally avoided applying to schools with sororities and they sound even (much much much) worse than I even imagined.

Well, the depictions here are not very accurate, except perhaps at Alabama or Old Miss, so I wouldn’t give much weight to them. Typical of DCUM that people who weren’t actually in a sorority think they know everything about them.

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Well, the depictions here are not very accurate, except perhaps at Alabama or Old Miss, so I wouldn’t give much weight to them. Typical of DCUM that people who weren’t actually in a sorority think they know everything about them.

Exactly. +101 I did not go to Alabama or Old Miss but I did go to a large state school where Greek life was a big part of the social scene. Unless you live under a rock you would recognize our house. I love all those girls and they have helped me through some of the worst and best times of my life. Even today, 30+ years out of school, I know that I can pick up the phone, call one of my sisters and she will be here in a heartbeat. And I would do the same for her. It was one of the best choices I ever made to rush and I would not hesitate to encourage any girl interested to do the same.

That’s lovely. It’s based on exclusion. You don’t seem to get that.

Oh, I get it all right. I also don't think that everyone should get a ribbon or medal or statue just for showing up.

The concept of a sorority or fraternity is people with like interests finding each other and entering into a deeper bond. The reality is that any single sorority or fraternity cannot accept everyone who is interested. Fortunately there are a lot of sororities or fraternities so there are plenty of options.

I was fortunate that I found the right group for me. I highly recommend that girls who are interested explore their options and rush.

Yeah, they should get a medal based on how they look, what high school they went to or what camps they intended instead.

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LOL. Now you're just being silly. The comment about a medal is a clear reference to the fact that in your generation it was common for every kid to get a medal if they belonged to a team or for every kid to get a ribbon for participating.

Again, joining a sorority or fraternity is about people with similar interests joining together for friendship. There are so many sororities and fraternities that it is hard for me to think that there might not be a match for you.

I am sorry that you have such angst about this. I suggest you work it out in therapy or something. Life is too short to have such a huge chip on your shoulder. It must make it really hard for you to get around.

I am done responding. I just don't have the wherewithal to deal with your recalcitrance and negative mindset. Good luck to you. Hugs.

Like interests? If you like it, fine. But don’t pretend the selection process is about like interests. 300 girls who speed date 1400 are not getting to know each other at all.

It is a quick process. That’s why we ask for social resumes and recs, and why personal relationships with potential new members are important. But, honestly, people get hired for jobs with less vetting and interview time. It works out.

So, dirty rush. Got it.

You should’ve use terms that you don’t know the meaning of. That’s not “dirty rush.” Dirty rush is 1) bid promising and 2) meeting with potential new members outside the silence period. That’s just networking and it’s allowed.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to a school with no sororities, so I am reading this thread with zero knowledge and total fascination. What does any of this have to do with college? It is such a strange thing.

Me too. I intentionally avoided applying to schools with sororities and they sound even (much much much) worse than I even imagined.

Well, the depictions here are not very accurate, except perhaps at Alabama or Old Miss, so I wouldn’t give much weight to them. Typical of DCUM that people who weren’t actually in a sorority think they know everything about them.

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Well, the depictions here are not very accurate, except perhaps at Alabama or Old Miss, so I wouldn’t give much weight to them. Typical of DCUM that people who weren’t actually in a sorority think they know everything about them.

Exactly. +101 I did not go to Alabama or Old Miss but I did go to a large state school where Greek life was a big part of the social scene. Unless you live under a rock you would recognize our house. I love all those girls and they have helped me through some of the worst and best times of my life. Even today, 30+ years out of school, I know that I can pick up the phone, call one of my sisters and she will be here in a heartbeat. And I would do the same for her. It was one of the best choices I ever made to rush and I would not hesitate to encourage any girl interested to do the same.

That’s lovely. It’s based on exclusion. You don’t seem to get that.

Oh, I get it all right. I also don't think that everyone should get a ribbon or medal or statue just for showing up.

The concept of a sorority or fraternity is people with like interests finding each other and entering into a deeper bond. The reality is that any single sorority or fraternity cannot accept everyone who is interested. Fortunately there are a lot of sororities or fraternities so there are plenty of options.

I was fortunate that I found the right group for me. I highly recommend that girls who are interested explore their options and rush.

Yeah, they should get a medal based on how they look, what high school they went to or what camps they intended instead.

/s

LOL. Now you're just being silly. The comment about a medal is a clear reference to the fact that in your generation it was common for every kid to get a medal if they belonged to a team or for every kid to get a ribbon for participating.

Again, joining a sorority or fraternity is about people with similar interests joining together for friendship. There are so many sororities and fraternities that it is hard for me to think that there might not be a match for you.

I am sorry that you have such angst about this. I suggest you work it out in therapy or something. Life is too short to have such a huge chip on your shoulder. It must make it really hard for you to get around.

I am done responding. I just don't have the wherewithal to deal with your recalcitrance and negative mindset. Good luck to you. Hugs.

Like interests? If you like it, fine. But don’t pretend the selection process is about like interests. 300 girls who speed date 1400 are not getting to know each other at all.

It is a quick process. That’s why we ask for social resumes and recs, and why personal relationships with potential new members are important. But, honestly, people get hired for jobs with less vetting and interview time. It works out.

So, dirty rush. Got it.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to a school with no sororities, so I am reading this thread with zero knowledge and total fascination. What does any of this have to do with college? It is such a strange thing.

Me too. I intentionally avoided applying to schools with sororities and they sound even (much much much) worse than I even imagined.

Well, the depictions here are not very accurate, except perhaps at Alabama or Old Miss, so I wouldn’t give much weight to them. Typical of DCUM that people who weren’t actually in a sorority think they know everything about them.

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Well, the depictions here are not very accurate, except perhaps at Alabama or Old Miss, so I wouldn’t give much weight to them. Typical of DCUM that people who weren’t actually in a sorority think they know everything about them.

Exactly. +101 I did not go to Alabama or Old Miss but I did go to a large state school where Greek life was a big part of the social scene. Unless you live under a rock you would recognize our house. I love all those girls and they have helped me through some of the worst and best times of my life. Even today, 30+ years out of school, I know that I can pick up the phone, call one of my sisters and she will be here in a heartbeat. And I would do the same for her. It was one of the best choices I ever made to rush and I would not hesitate to encourage any girl interested to do the same.

That’s lovely. It’s based on exclusion. You don’t seem to get that.

Condescension is not helping.

Triggered much? The truth hurts.

The mean SJW.

SJW really just means “giving a sh*t about people besides yourself.”

I’d love to know the stats on LGBTQ, disabled, poor, fat, physically scared (I.e. burn victims) and first generation students in rush.

I was a poor, fat college student going though rush 40 years ago at a big state school. I went through rush on a lark, just to see how the upper echelon lived.

But I ended up with a bid from one of the largest, oldest sororities in the country. It ended up being one of the greatest experiences of my life. I have close friendships still with several of the women. One is my BFF.

The networking from the group has helped me throughout my career. I am still an active alumnae.

Forty years ago, didn’t most sororities discriminate on the basis of race?

NP. Yes.

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Anonymous wrote:We probably shouldn’t have athletic teams or theater because it excludes kids who aren’t athletic or gifted at drama.

Our teams and theater do not exclude kids who aren't the most athletic or gifted at drama. I'd hate to go to your school!

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Anonymous wrote:I went to a school with no sororities, so I am reading this thread with zero knowledge and total fascination. What does any of this have to do with college? It is such a strange thing.

Me too. I intentionally avoided applying to schools with sororities and they sound even (much much much) worse than I even imagined.

Well, the depictions here are not very accurate, except perhaps at Alabama or Old Miss, so I wouldn’t give much weight to them. Typical of DCUM that people who weren’t actually in a sorority think they know everything about them.

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Well, the depictions here are not very accurate, except perhaps at Alabama or Old Miss, so I wouldn’t give much weight to them. Typical of DCUM that people who weren’t actually in a sorority think they know everything about them.

Exactly. +101 I did not go to Alabama or Old Miss but I did go to a large state school where Greek life was a big part of the social scene. Unless you live under a rock you would recognize our house. I love all those girls and they have helped me through some of the worst and best times of my life. Even today, 30+ years out of school, I know that I can pick up the phone, call one of my sisters and she will be here in a heartbeat. And I would do the same for her. It was one of the best choices I ever made to rush and I would not hesitate to encourage any girl interested to do the same.

That’s lovely. It’s based on exclusion. You don’t seem to get that.

Condescension is not helping.

Triggered much? The truth hurts.

The mean SJW.

SJW really just means “giving a sh*t about people besides yourself.”

I’d love to know the stats on LGBTQ, disabled, poor, fat, physically scared (I.e. burn victims) and first generation students in rush.

I was a poor, fat college student going though rush 40 years ago at a big state school. I went through rush on a lark, just to see how the upper echelon lived.

But I ended up with a bid from one of the largest, oldest sororities in the country. It ended up being one of the greatest experiences of my life. I have close friendships still with several of the women. One is my BFF.

The networking from the group has helped me throughout my career. I am still an active alumnae.

Forty years ago, didn’t most sororities discriminate on the basis of race?

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Anonymous wrote:I went to a school with no sororities, so I am reading this thread with zero knowledge and total fascination. What does any of this have to do with college? It is such a strange thing.

Me too. I intentionally avoided applying to schools with sororities and they sound even (much much much) worse than I even imagined.

Well, the depictions here are not very accurate, except perhaps at Alabama or Old Miss, so I wouldn’t give much weight to them. Typical of DCUM that people who weren’t actually in a sorority think they know everything about them.

+100

Well, the depictions here are not very accurate, except perhaps at Alabama or Old Miss, so I wouldn’t give much weight to them. Typical of DCUM that people who weren’t actually in a sorority think they know everything about them.

Exactly. +101 I did not go to Alabama or Old Miss but I did go to a large state school where Greek life was a big part of the social scene. Unless you live under a rock you would recognize our house. I love all those girls and they have helped me through some of the worst and best times of my life. Even today, 30+ years out of school, I know that I can pick up the phone, call one of my sisters and she will be here in a heartbeat. And I would do the same for her. It was one of the best choices I ever made to rush and I would not hesitate to encourage any girl interested to do the same.

That’s lovely. It’s based on exclusion. You don’t seem to get that.

Condescension is not helping.

Triggered much? The truth hurts.

The mean SJW.

SJW really just means “giving a sh*t about people besides yourself.”

I’d love to know the stats on LGBTQ, disabled, poor, fat, physically scared (I.e. burn victims) and first generation students in rush.

I was a poor, fat college student going though rush 40 years ago at a big state school. I went through rush on a lark, just to see how the upper echelon lived.

But I ended up with a bid from one of the largest, oldest sororities in the country. It ended up being one of the greatest experiences of my life. I have close friendships still with several of the women. One is my BFF.

The networking from the group has helped me throughout my career. I am still an active alumnae.

Forty years ago, didn’t most sororities discriminate on the basis of race?

Anonymous wrote:I assume the resume includes a picture and that's what really matters.

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Anonymous wrote:Sororities are no different from the real world where, like it or not, we’re all judged and stationed based on qualities such as beauty, wealth, intelligence, likeability, athleticism, social connections. These factors impact us all throughout our lives. They determine whether you’re in the popular crowd in grade school, what schools you and your kids attend (top public schools bc you can afford the right neighborhood, private schools bc you have the means to pay tuition), what sport teams you can join, what colleges you get into, what social clubs you are invited to join, what social circles you’ll be in, what jobs you are offered and how far you progress in those jobs. Getting promoted to the executive level really isn’t that different from sorority rush.

Society, both ours and those of most developed cultures, are based on exclusion and a social hierarchy. Maybe this is unfair, but it’s the way the world had worked since the begging of civilization. To deny this and pick on sororities as being an exception is unfair.

Lol I can’t tell if this is sarcasm.

Some of us prefer a democratic society where hierarchies aren’t supported and encouraged. Some of us are more civilized than our ancestors and aren’t threatened by equality.

You raise the point about why Greek is so popular in the south though. Southern culture is all about hierarchy which is why they love that the “tier” term continues and they love that some girls are heartbroken at the end. It all helps perpetuate that there is a “top” class of people.

Different strokes for different folks. I like sororities (and loved my house), you don't. Oh well. I'm not right and you're not wrong. I am not going to be kowtowed by your insecurities and feelings of inferiority.

If you are a parent, I encourage you to raise a strong, independent girl, someone who can get along with others despite their differences. You know, someone you're not.

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Anonymous wrote:Sororities are no different from the real world where, like it or not, we’re all judged and stationed based on qualities such as beauty, wealth, intelligence, likeability, athleticism, social connections. These factors impact us all throughout our lives. They determine whether you’re in the popular crowd in grade school, what schools you and your kids attend (top public schools bc you can afford the right neighborhood, private schools bc you have the means to pay tuition), what sport teams you can join, what colleges you get into, what social clubs you are invited to join, what social circles you’ll be in, what jobs you are offered and how far you progress in those jobs. Getting promoted to the executive level really isn’t that different from sorority rush.

Society, both ours and those of most developed cultures, are based on exclusion and a social hierarchy. Maybe this is unfair, but it’s the way the world had worked since the begging of civilization. To deny this and pick on sororities as being an exception is unfair.

Lol I can’t tell if this is sarcasm.

Some of us prefer a democratic society where hierarchies aren’t supported and encouraged. Some of us are more civilized than our ancestors and aren’t threatened by equality.

You raise the point about why Greek is so popular in the south though. Southern culture is all about hierarchy which is why they love that the “tier” term continues and they love that some girls are heartbroken at the end. It all helps perpetuate that there is a “top” class of people.

Different strokes for different folks. I like sororities (and loved my house), you don't. Oh well. I'm not right and you're not wrong. I am not going to be kowtowed by your insecurities and feelings of inferiority.

If you are a parent, I encourage you to raise a strong, independent girl, someone who can get along with others despite their differences. You know, someone you're not.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to a school with no sororities, so I am reading this thread with zero knowledge and total fascination. What does any of this have to do with college? It is such a strange thing.

Me too. I intentionally avoided applying to schools with sororities and they sound even (much much much) worse than I even imagined.

Well, the depictions here are not very accurate, except perhaps at Alabama or Old Miss, so I wouldn’t give much weight to them. Typical of DCUM that people who weren’t actually in a sorority think they know everything about them.

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Well, the depictions here are not very accurate, except perhaps at Alabama or Old Miss, so I wouldn’t give much weight to them. Typical of DCUM that people who weren’t actually in a sorority think they know everything about them.

Exactly. +101 I did not go to Alabama or Old Miss but I did go to a large state school where Greek life was a big part of the social scene. Unless you live under a rock you would recognize our house. I love all those girls and they have helped me through some of the worst and best times of my life. Even today, 30+ years out of school, I know that I can pick up the phone, call one of my sisters and she will be here in a heartbeat. And I would do the same for her. It was one of the best choices I ever made to rush and I would not hesitate to encourage any girl interested to do the same.

That’s lovely. It’s based on exclusion. You don’t seem to get that.

Condescension is not helping.

Triggered much? The truth hurts.

The mean SJW.

SJW really just means “giving a sh*t about people besides yourself.”

I’d love to know the stats on LGBTQ, disabled, poor, fat, physically scared (I.e. burn victims) and first generation students in rush.

I was a poor, fat college student going though rush 40 years ago at a big state school. I went through rush on a lark, just to see how the upper echelon lived.

But I ended up with a bid from one of the largest, oldest sororities in the country. It ended up being one of the greatest experiences of my life. I have close friendships still with several of the women. One is my BFF.

The networking from the group has helped me throughout my career. I am still an active alumnae.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to a school with no sororities, so I am reading this thread with zero knowledge and total fascination. What does any of this have to do with college? It is such a strange thing.

Me too. I intentionally avoided applying to schools with sororities and they sound even (much much much) worse than I even imagined.

Well, the depictions here are not very accurate, except perhaps at Alabama or Old Miss, so I wouldn’t give much weight to them. Typical of DCUM that people who weren’t actually in a sorority think they know everything about them.

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Eh. A lot of posters have shared their DD’s recent experiences. So maybe it doesn’t apply to your experience at Bates in 1991 but that doesn’t mean it’s not true.

Eh I have a kid that just went through rush so…

You still have absolutely no first hand experience of rush or being in a sorority.

Oh only what she tells me about it every time we talk. What is your first hand experience?

Being in a sorority obviously. If you daughter goes to med school, are you going to claim to be a doctor?