Anonymous
Post 01/08/2022 09:32     Subject: Re:Covid Update from Central Office

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Anonymous wrote:The rate of death during this wave is a lot smaller than any previous wave. In addition, the majority of hospitalized are unvaccinated. But I know that you don’t care about facts. You are impervious to new information, kinda like the “the election was stolen” crowd.


The majority of kids in MoCo ages 5-12 are still unvaccinated. Do I think that's dumb? CHRIST yes! Do I think any of those kids deserve to die, be hospitalized, or deal with long-COVID because their parents are dumb? CHRIST no! And that's not even considering their younger siblings who *can't* be vaccinated, or their elderly relatives who might be vaccinated but still be vulnerable - all of whom deserve consideration. Our family doesn't really fall into any of these categories either, so I get that it's easy to feel safe and assume that everyone should just get with your program. But this is public school. It exists to serve a large community, including people in vastly different circumstances. If you're only able to take your own circumstances into account, maybe YOU'RE the one who should "just homeschool."


5-11 are 9% of the population,5% is now fully vaccinated. So more than half of 5-11 are vaccinated. 12-15 year olds almost 100% vaccinated. Where are you getting your information from ? https://app.powerbigov.us/view?r=eyJrIjoiZDUxZTUzNWMtMjk1MS00ZjAyLTliMWYtMDdlMjY0MmQ5ZTc3IiwidCI6IjZlMDFiMWY5LWIxZTUtNDA3My1hYzk3LTc3ODA2OWEwYWQ2NCJ9&pageName=ReportSection81710217dba9873d424d


92% fully vaccinated for 12 and over https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.localdvm.com/news/maryland/nearly-30000-young-children-vaccinated-in-montgomery-county/amp/

Like I said, you are impervious to facts.


Uh, I really don’t think you know how to read these charts. That’s not what that link is saying.


Really? Why don’t you educate me?


DP. It says 5% of the *vaccinated* population is kids 5-11, not that 5% of the total population is vaccinated kids 5-11.


You are clearly not very smart it says 5% vaccinated as a % of total population. You have to highlight the 5% bar and it tells you the raw numbers of how many 5-11 received 1 vaccine vs 2 vaccines. 30,647 fully vaccinated. 49% with 1 dose, 34% with 2 doses. That’s data from 12/27/21, the numbers are higher now. If 5-11 are 9% of the total population or 90,000 did you think that only 5% or 4,500 are vaccinated?
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2022 08:54     Subject: Covid Update from Central Office

Anonymous wrote:[Same boat except that my child and 14 other classes at her school have been virtual since Dec 16th. If the virus hasn't left the building by this point, it never will. I understand it could be a staffing issue, but if so you need to find a better plan by now or just close everyone. I am pretty pissed. I had to scramble to find plans for my child. I am a single mom. Now you"may" have a plan by Sunday?? So frustrating.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone with children in the original 11 schools, I am furious. They'll let us know maybe if they have a plan by Sunday afternoon.


Same boat, but I’m really glad they’re at least reconsidering. Better than another 10 days of virtual.


I'm sorry you slept with a jerk and you have no friends or relatives that help take care of your children, but your own personal issue is not something the school can fix. A church group or other volunteer organization may be able to help out. Also search FB, NextDoor, etc. but don't make your own personal situation the MCPS excuse for in-person-only learning.

Hybrid can also be offered to help with social distancing in schools.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2022 08:33     Subject: Covid Update from Central Office

[Same boat except that my child and 14 other classes at her school have been virtual since Dec 16th. If the virus hasn't left the building by this point, it never will. I understand it could be a staffing issue, but if so you need to find a better plan by now or just close everyone. I am pretty pissed. I had to scramble to find plans for my child. I am a single mom. Now you"may" have a plan by Sunday?? So frustrating.

quote=Anonymous]
Anonymous wrote:As someone with children in the original 11 schools, I am furious. They'll let us know maybe if they have a plan by Sunday afternoon.


Same boat, but I’m really glad they’re at least reconsidering. Better than another 10 days of virtual.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2022 07:49     Subject: Re:Covid Update from Central Office

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Anonymous wrote:I get that MCPS is not going to use the 5% rule and that they’re only going to close if they absolutely have to due to staffing issues, but they need to keep updating the dashboard so that each family has the information they need to make their own risk/benefit analysis of sending their children to school. I’m concerned that they will no longer share up-to-date information on the percent of unrelated staff and students at each school who have tested positive in the last 14 days because they no longer have a specified threshold that triggers any action.


They are definitely not.


Guessing their attorneys are advising them not to? It could be used as evidence of poor decision making and intent not to honor their policy.


The 5% rule is no longer MCPS policy.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2022 07:43     Subject: Re:Covid Update from Central Office

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I get that MCPS is not going to use the 5% rule and that they’re only going to close if they absolutely have to due to staffing issues, but they need to keep updating the dashboard so that each family has the information they need to make their own risk/benefit analysis of sending their children to school. I’m concerned that they will no longer share up-to-date information on the percent of unrelated staff and students at each school who have tested positive in the last 14 days because they no longer have a specified threshold that triggers any action.


They are definitely not.


Guessing their attorneys are advising them not to? It could be used as evidence of poor decision making and intent not to honor their policy.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2022 07:09     Subject: Re:Covid Update from Central Office

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Anonymous wrote:The rate of death during this wave is a lot smaller than any previous wave. In addition, the majority of hospitalized are unvaccinated. But I know that you don’t care about facts. You are impervious to new information, kinda like the “the election was stolen” crowd.


The majority of kids in MoCo ages 5-12 are still unvaccinated. Do I think that's dumb? CHRIST yes! Do I think any of those kids deserve to die, be hospitalized, or deal with long-COVID because their parents are dumb? CHRIST no! And that's not even considering their younger siblings who *can't* be vaccinated, or their elderly relatives who might be vaccinated but still be vulnerable - all of whom deserve consideration. Our family doesn't really fall into any of these categories either, so I get that it's easy to feel safe and assume that everyone should just get with your program. But this is public school. It exists to serve a large community, including people in vastly different circumstances. If you're only able to take your own circumstances into account, maybe YOU'RE the one who should "just homeschool."


5-11 are 9% of the population,5% is now fully vaccinated. So more than half of 5-11 are vaccinated. 12-15 year olds almost 100% vaccinated. Where are you getting your information from ? https://app.powerbigov.us/view?r=eyJrIjoiZDUxZTUzNWMtMjk1MS00ZjAyLTliMWYtMDdlMjY0MmQ5ZTc3IiwidCI6IjZlMDFiMWY5LWIxZTUtNDA3My1hYzk3LTc3ODA2OWEwYWQ2NCJ9&pageName=ReportSection81710217dba9873d424d


92% fully vaccinated for 12 and over https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.localdvm.com/news/maryland/nearly-30000-young-children-vaccinated-in-montgomery-county/amp/

Like I said, you are impervious to facts.


Uh, I really don’t think you know how to read these charts. That’s not what that link is saying.


Really? Why don’t you educate me?


DP. It says 5% of the *vaccinated* population is kids 5-11, not that 5% of the total population is vaccinated kids 5-11.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2022 07:01     Subject: Re:Covid Update from Central Office

Anonymous wrote:I get that MCPS is not going to use the 5% rule and that they’re only going to close if they absolutely have to due to staffing issues, but they need to keep updating the dashboard so that each family has the information they need to make their own risk/benefit analysis of sending their children to school. I’m concerned that they will no longer share up-to-date information on the percent of unrelated staff and students at each school who have tested positive in the last 14 days because they no longer have a specified threshold that triggers any action.


They are definitely not.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2022 22:33     Subject: Re:Covid Update from Central Office

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The rate of death during this wave is a lot smaller than any previous wave. In addition, the majority of hospitalized are unvaccinated. But I know that you don’t care about facts. You are impervious to new information, kinda like the “the election was stolen” crowd.


The majority of kids in MoCo ages 5-12 are still unvaccinated. Do I think that's dumb? CHRIST yes! Do I think any of those kids deserve to die, be hospitalized, or deal with long-COVID because their parents are dumb? CHRIST no! And that's not even considering their younger siblings who *can't* be vaccinated, or their elderly relatives who might be vaccinated but still be vulnerable - all of whom deserve consideration. Our family doesn't really fall into any of these categories either, so I get that it's easy to feel safe and assume that everyone should just get with your program. But this is public school. It exists to serve a large community, including people in vastly different circumstances. If you're only able to take your own circumstances into account, maybe YOU'RE the one who should "just homeschool."


5-11 are 9% of the population,5% is now fully vaccinated. So more than half of 5-11 are vaccinated. 12-15 year olds almost 100% vaccinated. Where are you getting your information from ? https://app.powerbigov.us/view?r=eyJrIjoiZDUxZTUzNWMtMjk1MS00ZjAyLTliMWYtMDdlMjY0MmQ5ZTc3IiwidCI6IjZlMDFiMWY5LWIxZTUtNDA3My1hYzk3LTc3ODA2OWEwYWQ2NCJ9&pageName=ReportSection81710217dba9873d424d


92% fully vaccinated for 12 and over https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.localdvm.com/news/maryland/nearly-30000-young-children-vaccinated-in-montgomery-county/amp/

Like I said, you are impervious to facts.


Uh, I really don’t think you know how to read these charts. That’s not what that link is saying.


Really? Why don’t you educate me?
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2022 22:32     Subject: Re:Covid Update from Central Office

I get that MCPS is not going to use the 5% rule and that they’re only going to close if they absolutely have to due to staffing issues, but they need to keep updating the dashboard so that each family has the information they need to make their own risk/benefit analysis of sending their children to school. I’m concerned that they will no longer share up-to-date information on the percent of unrelated staff and students at each school who have tested positive in the last 14 days because they no longer have a specified threshold that triggers any action.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2022 22:18     Subject: Re:Covid Update from Central Office

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The rate of death during this wave is a lot smaller than any previous wave. In addition, the majority of hospitalized are unvaccinated. But I know that you don’t care about facts. You are impervious to new information, kinda like the “the election was stolen” crowd.


The majority of kids in MoCo ages 5-12 are still unvaccinated. Do I think that's dumb? CHRIST yes! Do I think any of those kids deserve to die, be hospitalized, or deal with long-COVID because their parents are dumb? CHRIST no! And that's not even considering their younger siblings who *can't* be vaccinated, or their elderly relatives who might be vaccinated but still be vulnerable - all of whom deserve consideration. Our family doesn't really fall into any of these categories either, so I get that it's easy to feel safe and assume that everyone should just get with your program. But this is public school. It exists to serve a large community, including people in vastly different circumstances. If you're only able to take your own circumstances into account, maybe YOU'RE the one who should "just homeschool."


5-11 are 9% of the population,5% is now fully vaccinated. So more than half of 5-11 are vaccinated. 12-15 year olds almost 100% vaccinated. Where are you getting your information from ? https://app.powerbigov.us/view?r=eyJrIjoiZDUxZTUzNWMtMjk1MS00ZjAyLTliMWYtMDdlMjY0MmQ5ZTc3IiwidCI6IjZlMDFiMWY5LWIxZTUtNDA3My1hYzk3LTc3ODA2OWEwYWQ2NCJ9&pageName=ReportSection81710217dba9873d424d


92% fully vaccinated for 12 and over https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.localdvm.com/news/maryland/nearly-30000-young-children-vaccinated-in-montgomery-county/amp/

Like I said, you are impervious to facts.


Uh, I really don’t think you know how to read these charts. That’s not what that link is saying.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2022 21:45     Subject: Re:Covid Update from Central Office

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The rate of death during this wave is a lot smaller than any previous wave. In addition, the majority of hospitalized are unvaccinated. But I know that you don’t care about facts. You are impervious to new information, kinda like the “the election was stolen” crowd.


The majority of kids in MoCo ages 5-12 are still unvaccinated. Do I think that's dumb? CHRIST yes! Do I think any of those kids deserve to die, be hospitalized, or deal with long-COVID because their parents are dumb? CHRIST no! And that's not even considering their younger siblings who *can't* be vaccinated, or their elderly relatives who might be vaccinated but still be vulnerable - all of whom deserve consideration. Our family doesn't really fall into any of these categories either, so I get that it's easy to feel safe and assume that everyone should just get with your program. But this is public school. It exists to serve a large community, including people in vastly different circumstances. If you're only able to take your own circumstances into account, maybe YOU'RE the one who should "just homeschool."


5-11 are 9% of the population,5% is now fully vaccinated. So more than half of 5-11 are vaccinated. 12-15 year olds almost 100% vaccinated. Where are you getting your information from ? https://app.powerbigov.us/view?r=eyJrIjoiZDUxZTUzNWMtMjk1MS00ZjAyLTliMWYtMDdlMjY0MmQ5ZTc3IiwidCI6IjZlMDFiMWY5LWIxZTUtNDA3My1hYzk3LTc3ODA2OWEwYWQ2NCJ9&pageName=ReportSection81710217dba9873d424d


92% fully vaccinated for 12 and over https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.localdvm.com/news/maryland/nearly-30000-young-children-vaccinated-in-montgomery-county/amp/

Like I said, you are impervious to facts.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2022 20:56     Subject: Re:Covid Update from Central Office

Anonymous wrote:The rate of death during this wave is a lot smaller than any previous wave. In addition, the majority of hospitalized are unvaccinated. But I know that you don’t care about facts. You are impervious to new information, kinda like the “the election was stolen” crowd.


The majority of kids in MoCo ages 5-12 are still unvaccinated. Do I think that's dumb? CHRIST yes! Do I think any of those kids deserve to die, be hospitalized, or deal with long-COVID because their parents are dumb? CHRIST no! And that's not even considering their younger siblings who *can't* be vaccinated, or their elderly relatives who might be vaccinated but still be vulnerable - all of whom deserve consideration. Our family doesn't really fall into any of these categories either, so I get that it's easy to feel safe and assume that everyone should just get with your program. But this is public school. It exists to serve a large community, including people in vastly different circumstances. If you're only able to take your own circumstances into account, maybe YOU'RE the one who should "just homeschool."
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2022 20:54     Subject: Re:Covid Update from Central Office

Anonymous wrote:One of my points is, if you got your head out of your ass long enough to actually get to know people in your community, you'd realize the waves of disinformation don't stop with the white trumpeters you now consider disposable. I know an astonishing number of black, educated, professional families who are suspicious of vaccinations. And I'm not even going outside my own bubble to find them. Try looking in Texas or Mississippi or Georgia and the numbers climb higher


You asked about my friend's family before. Well, some had to get vaccinated for their job.

The rest didn't get vaccinated because they don't trust the mandates. Fox eggs this shit on.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2022 20:53     Subject: Re:Covid Update from Central Office

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just spoke with an old friend today, our kids were in elementary together. They are a FARMS family with limited access to transportation or healthcare in a high-density part of the county.

She said they weren't vaccinated because she wasn't sure it was safe. I gave her an earful. She said she would consider if when they got some spare cash.

That's right. She didn't know it was free to get vaccinated.

You can blame my friend for her ignorance. I'm sure most of you would. I blame myself for not reaching out sooner. But mostly I blame our community for being so siloed that some people never even get the information they need. This is a woman whose eyesight is failing. She doesn't own a computer. She lives in an apartment complex with hundreds of people and apparently no one even bothered to do outreach to them. The pharmacy within walking distance doesn't do vaccines. Etc.

I'm driving her to a vaccination site this weekend. But this breaks me. How are we failing so many Americans like this? I get the reopener's perspective: they just want people like my friend to disappear.



Oh FFS.


Wow. This is the silliest take in a thread full of bad takes (on both sides). You win (I guess?)


To clarify, the disappearing friend = open schools PP.



Exactly 4 kids ages 0-9 died in Maryland since March 2020. Even if the reopeners wanted anyone to disappear, practically speaking it is not going to happen. We are just flattening out with the omicron wave and slowing down with hospital admissions. There are a total of 60 kids hospitalized in the entire state, and only 12 of them are in the ICU.


A 10 year old just died in another county.

How many school aged children (0-18) have died in MD? How many have died in the US? How many in the world? How many kids are hospitalized right now in the US? How many are in the ICU. Just looking at MD isn't enough. And 12 kids in the ICU is 12 to many! How would you feel if it were your child?
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2022 20:53     Subject: Re:Covid Update from Central Office

One of my points is, if you got your head out of your ass long enough to actually get to know people in your community, you'd realize the waves of disinformation don't stop with the white trumpeters you now consider disposable. I know an astonishing number of black, educated, professional families who are suspicious of vaccinations. And I'm not even going outside my own bubble to find them. Try looking in Texas or Mississippi or Georgia and the numbers climb higher