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Then get ready to pay more in taxes. Jawando wants to spend more $$ on programs that don't have a proven track record.

I support SROs. Cops aren't perfect. We should definitely provide more training to cops on how to handle mental health crisis, but just because there are a few bad apples, I don't believe in throwing out the bunch. If that's how we are going to treat everything then we would have not government, no human race.

I still haven't heard from anti-SROs whether they would want the cops around if someone was trying to stab their kid.

SROs also don't have a proven track record. Just saying.

Also, you obviously don't need SROs in order to have police responding to an attempted stabbing.

They have a proven track record of running for cover whenever there's trouble.

They have a proven record of running for cover? Please provide that record of Montgomery County SROs running for cover.

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Anonymous wrote:We need smaller schools. We need educational communities not institutions. These schools are the size of small towns and yet this is where they spend most of their time. They need to be seen and known. Most teachers went into teaching to connect with children and yet there are so many kids they are wholly unable to do so.

It's easier to put SROs and mental health workers in the existing buildings than to reduce the number of students at schools.

Taking the easy way out is what got us in this mess. Pay now or pay later. Americans always choose pay later!

This incident and those stabbings at the W's the other week are proof positive that SRO are a useless waste of tax dollars. The county seems to be handling these unfortunate incidents well.

+1000

-20000

It's proof that there aren't ENOUGH sros.
Look at the argument that there were 9 security personnel at Blair. Well Blair has nearly 3100 students! That means one security person per 300 kids! It's. It's not enough!
The schools are TOO big. The politics of Montgomery County ensure that our children's education is diminished to the lowest common denominator instead of raising it to the highest. There should be MORE schools. Less stude.ts at each and MORE security where needed. And by security I include SROs. If Covid didn't convince people that schools are too overcrowded I don't know what will.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need smaller schools. We need educational communities not institutions. These schools are the size of small towns and yet this is where they spend most of their time. They need to be seen and known. Most teachers went into teaching to connect with children and yet there are so many kids they are wholly unable to do so.

It's easier to put SROs and mental health workers in the existing buildings than to reduce the number of students at schools.

Taking the easy way out is what got us in this mess. Pay now or pay later. Americans always choose pay later!

Then get ready to pay more in taxes. Jawando wants to spend more $$ on programs that don't have a proven track record.

I support SROs. Cops aren't perfect. We should definitely provide more training to cops on how to handle mental health crisis, but just because there are a few bad apples, I don't believe in throwing out the bunch. If that's how we are going to treat everything then we would have not government, no human race.

I still haven't heard from anti-SROs whether they would want the cops around if someone was trying to stab their kid.

Gotta assume that they don't. They'd rather that the administration calls the cops and in the meantime get the social worker to keep things calm while waiting for the cops to arrive. I don't know why we can't be a reasonable county. Look at what happened at Howard county recently as an example: https://foxbaltimore.com/news/local/school-resource-officers-key-to-quick-response-to-fight-and-stabbing-at-annapolis-hs

PPs: "Schools still have security guards"
You: ::puts hands over ears:: "LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU WHY DO YOU WANT SOCIAL WORKERS RESPONDING TO A STABBING???"

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need smaller schools. We need educational communities not institutions. These schools are the size of small towns and yet this is where they spend most of their time. They need to be seen and known. Most teachers went into teaching to connect with children and yet there are so many kids they are wholly unable to do so.

It's easier to put SROs and mental health workers in the existing buildings than to reduce the number of students at schools.

Taking the easy way out is what got us in this mess. Pay now or pay later. Americans always choose pay later!

Then get ready to pay more in taxes. Jawando wants to spend more $$ on programs that don't have a proven track record.

I support SROs. Cops aren't perfect. We should definitely provide more training to cops on how to handle mental health crisis, but just because there are a few bad apples, I don't believe in throwing out the bunch. If that's how we are going to treat everything then we would have not government, no human race.

I still haven't heard from anti-SROs whether they would want the cops around if someone was trying to stab their kid.

Gotta assume that they don't. They'd rather that the administration calls the cops and in the meantime get the social worker to keep things calm while waiting for the cops to arrive. I don't know why we can't be a reasonable county. Look at what happened at Howard county recently as an example: https://foxbaltimore.com/news/local/school-resource-officers-key-to-quick-response-to-fight-and-stabbing-at-annapolis-hs

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need smaller schools. We need educational communities not institutions. These schools are the size of small towns and yet this is where they spend most of their time. They need to be seen and known. Most teachers went into teaching to connect with children and yet there are so many kids they are wholly unable to do so.

It's easier to put SROs and mental health workers in the existing buildings than to reduce the number of students at schools.

Taking the easy way out is what got us in this mess. Pay now or pay later. Americans always choose pay later!

This incident and those stabbings at the W's the other week are proof positive that SRO are a useless waste of tax dollars. The county seems to be handling these unfortunate incidents well.

+1000

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Then get ready to pay more in taxes. Jawando wants to spend more $$ on programs that don't have a proven track record.

I support SROs. Cops aren't perfect. We should definitely provide more training to cops on how to handle mental health crisis, but just because there are a few bad apples, I don't believe in throwing out the bunch. If that's how we are going to treat everything then we would have not government, no human race.

I still haven't heard from anti-SROs whether they would want the cops around if someone was trying to stab their kid.

SROs also don't have a proven track record. Just saying.

Also, you obviously don't need SROs in order to have police responding to an attempted stabbing.

They have a proven track record of running for cover whenever there's trouble.

Anonymous wrote:
Then get ready to pay more in taxes. Jawando wants to spend more $$ on programs that don't have a proven track record.

I support SROs. Cops aren't perfect. We should definitely provide more training to cops on how to handle mental health crisis, but just because there are a few bad apples, I don't believe in throwing out the bunch. If that's how we are going to treat everything then we would have not government, no human race.

I still haven't heard from anti-SROs whether they would want the cops around if someone was trying to stab their kid.

SROs also don't have a proven track record. Just saying.

Also, you obviously don't need SROs in order to have police responding to an attempted stabbing.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need smaller schools. We need educational communities not institutions. These schools are the size of small towns and yet this is where they spend most of their time. They need to be seen and known. Most teachers went into teaching to connect with children and yet there are so many kids they are wholly unable to do so.

It's easier to put SROs and mental health workers in the existing buildings than to reduce the number of students at schools.

Taking the easy way out is what got us in this mess. Pay now or pay later. Americans always choose pay later!

Then get ready to pay more in taxes. Jawando wants to spend more $$ on programs that don't have a proven track record.

I support SROs. Cops aren't perfect. We should definitely provide more training to cops on how to handle mental health crisis, but just because there are a few bad apples, I don't believe in throwing out the bunch. If that's how we are going to treat everything then we would have not government, no human race.

I still haven't heard from anti-SROs whether they would want the cops around if someone was trying to stab their kid.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need smaller schools. We need educational communities not institutions. These schools are the size of small towns and yet this is where they spend most of their time. They need to be seen and known. Most teachers went into teaching to connect with children and yet there are so many kids they are wholly unable to do so.

It's easier to put SROs and mental health workers in the existing buildings than to reduce the number of students at schools.

Taking the easy way out is what got us in this mess. Pay now or pay later. Americans always choose pay later!

This incident and those stabbings at the W's the other week are proof positive that SRO are a useless waste of tax dollars. The county seems to be handling these unfortunate incidents well.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need smaller schools. We need educational communities not institutions. These schools are the size of small towns and yet this is where they spend most of their time. They need to be seen and known. Most teachers went into teaching to connect with children and yet there are so many kids they are wholly unable to do so.

It's easier to put SROs and mental health workers in the existing buildings than to reduce the number of students at schools.

Taking the easy way out is what got us in this mess. Pay now or pay later. Americans always choose pay later!

Anonymous wrote:We need smaller schools. We need educational communities not institutions. These schools are the size of small towns and yet this is where they spend most of their time. They need to be seen and known. Most teachers went into teaching to connect with children and yet there are so many kids they are wholly unable to do so.

It's easier to put SROs and mental health workers in the existing buildings than to reduce the number of students at schools.

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Anonymous wrote:

But equity. I understand the fear of the police among certian groups based on data but there has to be a better solution for everyone's safety that just removing school security.

They didn't remove school security. School security is still there.

+1. Blair has nine staff members for school security.

We need smaller schools. We need educational communities not institutions. These schools are the size of small towns and yet this is where they spend most of their time. They need to be seen and known. Most teachers went into teaching to connect with children and yet there are so many kids they are wholly unable to do so.

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But equity. I understand the fear of the police among certian groups based on data but there has to be a better solution for everyone's safety that just removing school security.

They didn't remove school security. School security is still there.

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Anonymous wrote:"School resource officers, or SROs, are members of the law enforcement community who teach, counsel, and protect the school community. When SROs are integrated into a school system, the benefits go beyond reduced violence in schools. The officers often build relationships with students while serving as a resource to students, teachers, and administrators to help solve problems.

For students with a mental illness, use of drugs or alcohol can be a key risk factor for committing acts of violence. Recent research shows that those with a severe mental illness and a substance use disorder have a greatly increased relative risk for violence (more than 11 times) compared to those with neither diagnosis. Since SROs can help infuse substance abuse and violence-prevention messaging in schools and throughout school systems, they can play an important role in school safety plans.

In March, I met with school resource officers in Chantilly, Virginia, to discuss school safety and substance abuse. It was clear from this discussion that we need to look beyond the law enforcement function of SROs and recognize their value in cultivating a safe, supportive environment for our young people.

School resource officers are not armed guards standing sentry at school entrances. These men and women receive training in counseling and other skills that help them be effective in a school setting. Part of a school resource officer’s job is building relationships with students and faculty, and the job often doesn’t end at the close of the school day. They can be present at extracurricular activities and in school hallways, building trust with the students. School resource officers can get involved if they believe a young person may pose a danger to the school community. They can even visit students at home and speak with parents and family."

-From the Office of President Barack Obama
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2013/03/28/school-resource-officers

It does make me wonder, if there had been an SRO at Blair, whether that SRO would have been able to see a beef brewing between these kids and headed it off before it reached the point of violence.

But equity. I understand the fear of the police among certian groups based on data but there has to be a better solution for everyone's safety that just removing school security.