Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 13:21     Subject: Re:Biden strikes out with King Manchin

Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 13:18     Subject: Re:Biden strikes out with King Manchin

Anonymous wrote:Bernie's on CNN right now crying. He is so upset and trying to connect that sad social welfare bill to CLIMATE CHANGE. Please. That bill barely has 5% to do with the climate. Set up a new bill with just environmental concerns and climate change and I'll support it. Throw in a MagLev train with no fossil fuel energy use too please.


I’m a republican and I’d support a climate change bill too. At or less than 5%. Lots of tax incentives for alternative energy in homes and vehicles. Grants to companies for development of missing technologies. Just make sure people like Pelosi don’t benefit with stock trading on these deals that they have so much control over.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 13:18     Subject: Re:Biden strikes out with King Manchin

LOL Stay mad. We didn't want this.

Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 12:34     Subject: Re:Biden strikes out with King Manchin

Bernie's on CNN right now crying. He is so upset and trying to connect that sad social welfare bill to CLIMATE CHANGE. Please. That bill barely has 5% to do with the climate. Set up a new bill with just environmental concerns and climate change and I'll support it. Throw in a MagLev train with no fossil fuel energy use too please.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 12:33     Subject: Re:Biden strikes out with King Manchin

Anonymous wrote:The real Christmas present will be Joe switching parties next week!


And, this could well happen if the progressives keep it up.....

Bernie Sanders:
Manchin is “gonna have a lot of explaining to do to the people of West Virginia” because he “doesn’t have the guts to stand up to powerful special interests.”
“We've been dealing with Mr. Manchin for month after month after month. But if he doesn't have the courage to do the right thing for the working families of West Virginia and America, let him vote no in front of the whole world,” Sanders added.

Ayanna Pressley:
Manchin is “obstructing the president’s agenda, he is obstructing the people’s agenda.”
She also said the centrist Democrat “has continued to move the goalposts” and “has never negotiated in good faith.”
“We cannot allow one lone senator from West Virginia to obstruct the president's agenda, to obstruct the people's agenda. Jake, all I want for Christmas is a senator that has compassion for the American people and not contempt,” Pressley added.


Ilhan Omar:
Manchin’s excuses for not voting for BBB ‘are complete bullsh*t’

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/586464-manchin-opposition-to-build-back-better-sends-shock-waves-through-political

A couple of points:
1. Joe Biden was not elected to transform the US into some kind of socialist utopia.
2. Re Bernie Sanders: Manchin has more courage than Sanders will ever realize. He will have no problem explain to his constituents why this ridiculous bill is not right for his people, or any of the citizens in the US.
3. Re Pressley: This isn't ONE Senator, honey. It is FIFTY ONE, or more. You know... a majority.
4. Re Omar: His reasons have been articulated and are in line with what the people he represents want.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 12:23     Subject: Biden strikes out with King Manchin

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Biden will get the large share of the blame over this debacle but the blame really goes to Shumer for ignoring Manchin's demands for months and keeping everyone in the dark. Can also blame Ron Klain for empowering the progressives in the house.


Schumer and Klain thought they could roll over simple unwashed goyim like manchin and sinema.



I don't know what Schumer's deal was but Klain's about to be fired. He's no Rahm Emanuel.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 12:22     Subject: Biden strikes out with King Manchin

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Biden will get the large share of the blame over this debacle but the blame really goes to Shumer for ignoring Manchin's demands for months and keeping everyone in the dark. Can also blame Ron Klain for empowering the progressives in the house.


A small victory over a deeply unpopular president, a 50-50 senate that was more luck than anything else, and losing seats in the House = massive mandate to spend trillions and trillions


All we wanted a sane President who didn't tweet threats at 3AM and took Covid seriously. Maybe this is the wake-up call Biden needed to settle down in 2022.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 12:15     Subject: Biden strikes out with King Manchin

Fireworks starting —

“ White House accuses Sen. Joe Manchin of breaking commitments on $2T bill, calls his opposition 'sudden and inexplicable.'”

Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 10:32     Subject: Biden strikes out with King Manchin

Anonymous wrote:Biden will get the large share of the blame over this debacle but the blame really goes to Shumer for ignoring Manchin's demands for months and keeping everyone in the dark. Can also blame Ron Klain for empowering the progressives in the house.


A small victory over a deeply unpopular president, a 50-50 senate that was more luck than anything else, and losing seats in the House = massive mandate to spend trillions and trillions
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 10:23     Subject: Biden strikes out with King Manchin

Biden will get the large share of the blame over this debacle but the blame really goes to Shumer for ignoring Manchin's demands for months and keeping everyone in the dark. Can also blame Ron Klain for empowering the progressives in the house.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 09:55     Subject: Biden strikes out with King Manchin

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The king makes it official on Fox News :

NO! On bbb



Ohhhhhh happy day!


This is all on Schumer. Manchin told him months ago what he would sign on to and Schumer thought he could pressure Joe. Worst Senate Leader!
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 09:49     Subject: Re:Biden strikes out with King Manchin

The real Christmas present will be Joe switching parties next week!
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 09:36     Subject: Biden strikes out with King Manchin

Anonymous wrote:The king makes it official on Fox News :

NO! On bbb



Ohhhhhh happy day!

Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 09:32     Subject: Biden strikes out with King Manchin

The king makes it official on Fox News :

NO! On bbb

Anonymous
Post 12/16/2021 22:23     Subject: Re:Biden strikes out with King Manchin

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thank god for Manchin for stopping that welfare insanity.

Biden et al are just insanely dumb to pump up everyones expectation with the slim congressional majorities.


I really truly want to know what they were thinking implementing a policy (mainly the tax credits) with NO stipulations on citizenship, minimum job or income requirements, or limits on dependent qualification totals.

If anyone has an interview or video on when this was discussed back in April 2021, I'd love to see it.

I've also never seen it explained what exactly they planned to do when the costs for daycares and commercial child care centers rose 300% while the household payouts were limited to 7%. Leaving the government to pay the remaining 83% tab. Like that's just asking for massive inflation for one industry. Truly boggles the mind.


93% not 83% which is even worse.