Anonymous
05/14/2022 20:24
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just curious........
If a pregnant woman is murdered, the majority of states will charge the criminal with TWO homicides.
The majority of states have fetal homicide laws.
If the unborn has no rights, why is this the case?
https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/fetal-homicide-state-laws.aspx
Some of these laws were passed by forced birthers to lay the foundation for people like you to one day undermine abortion rights...
Why don't you share what happens during an abortion. Stick to facts.
you don't seem to get it. we don't care...we want to make choices over our body ourselves
We get that a growing baby doesn't matter to you.
The mother “matters” more. We get that you DGAF about her.
If the mothers life is in danger, that's another issue than abortion on demand.
DP. Pregnancy Carrie’s inherent risks, and in many cases you won’t know a woman’s life is in dangerous until she’s literally on the verge of dying. Why should, any woman be obligated to take on that risk to her life and health for the sole benefit of someone else?
Anonymous
05/14/2022 19:54
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
If scotus is saying that each state can decide, then they're saying it's not inherently illegal. Which means that they can make it legal at all levels. It doesn't matter when life begins if the states can decide anyway so they should just keep Roe v Wade.
Nowhere in the ruling does it talk about the beginning of life? That's not even an issue because it doesn't matter
Nowhere in the ruling does it talk about the beginning of life? That's not even an issue because it doesn't matter
Anonymous
05/14/2022 19:47
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just curious........
If a pregnant woman is murdered, the majority of states will charge the criminal with TWO homicides.
The majority of states have fetal homicide laws.
If the unborn has no rights, why is this the case?
https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/fetal-homicide-state-laws.aspx
Some of these laws were passed by forced birthers to lay the foundation for people like you to one day undermine abortion rights...
Why don't you share what happens during an abortion. Stick to facts.
you don't seem to get it. we don't care...we want to make choices over our body ourselves
We get that a growing baby doesn't matter to you.
The mother “matters” more. We get that you DGAF about her.
If the mothers life is in danger, that's another issue than abortion on demand.
Then why are some states looking to ban all abortions? Are you suggesting that maybe it's a decision between doctors and patients, not politicians and their gods?
Anonymous
05/14/2022 19:46
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just curious........
If a pregnant woman is murdered, the majority of states will charge the criminal with TWO homicides.
The majority of states have fetal homicide laws.
If the unborn has no rights, why is this the case?
https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/fetal-homicide-state-laws.aspx
Some of these laws were passed by forced birthers to lay the foundation for people like you to one day undermine abortion rights...
Why don't you share what happens during an abortion. Stick to facts.
you don't seem to get it. we don't care...we want to make choices over our body ourselves
We get that a growing baby doesn't matter to you.
The mother “matters” more. We get that you DGAF about her.
If the mothers life is in danger, that's another issue than abortion on demand.
No sh$t Sherlock. Which is precisely how it’s handled under existing law. The draft opinion in Dobbs would allow states to criminalize all abortion—because women have NO right to abortion according to Alito.
Catch up. Wake up. For God’s sake.
Anonymous
05/14/2022 19:09
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just curious........
If a pregnant woman is murdered, the majority of states will charge the criminal with TWO homicides.
The majority of states have fetal homicide laws.
If the unborn has no rights, why is this the case?
https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/fetal-homicide-state-laws.aspx
I dunno, maybe to give the deadbeat abusive men a little more incentive to not kill their pregnant wives or girlfriends? Pregnancy is one of the most dangerous times in an abused woman’s life- second only to when she tries to leave.
The groups are prob choice and pro life. There is no forced birth group.
This ^
It’s about violence to vulnerable women. Which ironically will increase if Dobbs becomes law.
It’s all an assault on women, a violation of their body.
Forced birthers are no better than rapists.
The groups are pro-choice and pro-life there is no forced birth group
Forced birthers don’t give a sh!t about “life.”
Anonymous
05/14/2022 18:58
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just curious........
If a pregnant woman is murdered, the majority of states will charge the criminal with TWO homicides.
The majority of states have fetal homicide laws.
If the unborn has no rights, why is this the case?
https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/fetal-homicide-state-laws.aspx
Some of these laws were passed by forced birthers to lay the foundation for people like you to one day undermine abortion rights...
Why don't you share what happens during an abortion. Stick to facts.
you don't seem to get it. we don't care...we want to make choices over our body ourselves
We get that a growing baby doesn't matter to you.
The mother “matters” more. We get that you DGAF about her.
If the mothers life is in danger, that's another issue than abortion on demand.
Anonymous
05/14/2022 17:10
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fetuses are not "potential life", they are a separate living human being, scientifically speaking.
If they’ve never been alive outside the womb, they’re potential life. Under the law (which is what we’re discussing) babies aren’t granted the status of living person until they’re born alive. Besides, this draft opinion is not grounded in science.
Under which law(s)? You’re making stuff up now. They may not be citizens or registered persons, but doubtful there is a law that defines life. If there were a law, rulings like RvW wouldn’t be necessary. That’s the crux of the issue. Pass a law that clearly defines human life and what may be done legally “by others” to that human life at its various stages. Fetus, baby, toddler, teen, adult, senior, invalid, death bed patient, comatose patients, death row inmate, etc. then we can all stop being hypocrites.
Can a fetus get a social security number?
Is a man responsible for fetus support?
No?
Then it isn't a life in the eyes of the government.
Some of you need to stop it with the argument that a social security number is the defining feature of when the government recognizes personhood. It’s wrong and gives cover to MAGA voters that want to pull rights from documented snd undocumented immigrants. Due Process in 15th applies to all persons. If you want to argue that personhood starts at birth, please do that argument instead. Some of us disagree and think that after viability, states should be able to balance the rights of the mother with a viable fetus which is why Roe/Casey was a good balance.
But the argument that those without a social security number is not recognized as life in the eyes of the government is just false.
Anonymous
05/14/2022 16:47
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just curious........
If a pregnant woman is murdered, the majority of states will charge the criminal with TWO homicides.
The majority of states have fetal homicide laws.
If the unborn has no rights, why is this the case?
https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/fetal-homicide-state-laws.aspx
I dunno, maybe to give the deadbeat abusive men a little more incentive to not kill their pregnant wives or girlfriends? Pregnancy is one of the most dangerous times in an abused woman’s life- second only to when she tries to leave.
The groups are prob choice and pro life. There is no forced birth group.
This ^
It’s about violence to vulnerable women. Which ironically will increase if Dobbs becomes law.
It’s all an assault on women, a violation of their body.
Forced birthers are no better than rapists.
The groups are pro-choice and pro-life there is no forced birth group
No, there is prochoice and antichoice. No choice is forced pregnancy and forced birth.
Anonymous
05/14/2022 16:47
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just curious........
If a pregnant woman is murdered, the majority of states will charge the criminal with TWO homicides.
The majority of states have fetal homicide laws.
If the unborn has no rights, why is this the case?
https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/fetal-homicide-state-laws.aspx
I dunno, maybe to give the deadbeat abusive men a little more incentive to not kill their pregnant wives or girlfriends? Pregnancy is one of the most dangerous times in an abused woman’s life- second only to when she tries to leave.
The groups are prob choice and pro life. There is no forced birth group.
This ^
It’s about violence to vulnerable women. Which ironically will increase if Dobbs becomes law.
It’s all an assault on women, a violation of their body.
Forced birthers are no better than rapists.
The groups are pro-choice and pro-life there is no forced birth group
“Pro-life” is a lie. Propaganda BS.
The only goal of those political activists is to force women to give birth against their will. There is zero aspect to their position that is supportive of “life”.
Anonymous
05/14/2022 16:43
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous
05/14/2022 16:42
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just curious........
If a pregnant woman is murdered, the majority of states will charge the criminal with TWO homicides.
The majority of states have fetal homicide laws.
If the unborn has no rights, why is this the case?
https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/fetal-homicide-state-laws.aspx
I dunno, maybe to give the deadbeat abusive men a little more incentive to not kill their pregnant wives or girlfriends? Pregnancy is one of the most dangerous times in an abused woman’s life- second only to when she tries to leave.
The groups are prob choice and pro life. There is no forced birth group.
This ^
It’s about violence to vulnerable women. Which ironically will increase if Dobbs becomes law.
It’s all an assault on women, a violation of their body.
Forced birthers are no better than rapists.
The groups are pro-choice and pro-life there is no forced birth group
Anonymous
05/14/2022 16:41
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just curious........
If a pregnant woman is murdered, the majority of states will charge the criminal with TWO homicides.
The majority of states have fetal homicide laws.
If the unborn has no rights, why is this the case?
https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/fetal-homicide-state-laws.aspx
Some of these laws were passed by forced birthers to lay the foundation for people like you to one day undermine abortion rights...
Why don't you share what happens during an abortion. Stick to facts.
you don't seem to get it. we don't care...we want to make choices over our body ourselves
We get that a growing baby doesn't matter to you.
The mother “matters” more. We get that you DGAF about her.
Anonymous
05/14/2022 16:41
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just curious........
If a pregnant woman is murdered, the majority of states will charge the criminal with TWO homicides.
The majority of states have fetal homicide laws.
If the unborn has no rights, why is this the case?
https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/fetal-homicide-state-laws.aspx
I dunno, maybe to give the deadbeat abusive men a little more incentive to not kill their pregnant wives or girlfriends? Pregnancy is one of the most dangerous times in an abused woman’s life- second only to when she tries to leave.
The groups are prob choice and pro life. There is no forced birth group.
This ^
It’s about violence to vulnerable women. Which ironically will increase if Dobbs becomes law.
It’s all an assault on women, a violation of their body.
Forced birthers are no better than rapists.
Anonymous
05/14/2022 16:39
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just curious........
If a pregnant woman is murdered, the majority of states will charge the criminal with TWO homicides.
The majority of states have fetal homicide laws.
If the unborn has no rights, why is this the case?
https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/fetal-homicide-state-laws.aspx
Some of these laws were passed by forced birthers to lay the foundation for people like you to one day undermine abortion rights...
Why don't you share what happens during an abortion. Stick to facts.
you don't seem to get it. we don't care...we want to make choices over our body ourselves
No, you don’t seem to get it. The decision is not just about your body.
Yes, it is. If you have a different opinion that is fine, but you don't get to shove your opinion down my throat.
x1 million
Women should control their own bodies. Not religious zealots or ignorant legislators/justices.
Anonymous
05/14/2022 16:39
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:
Free speech.
If I ever see Alito in person I will scream at him until his ears bleed.
Alito is now the new Hitler, the new Mussolini.
I will not have my liberty downgraded because he is a sexist pig.
I will not be willingly enslaved.
So Hitler killed millions as did abortion