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Post 08/24/2024 14:37     Subject: She picked Tim
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Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this has been discussed, but I read that even though he said he wouldn’t have a family if there was no IVF, they didn’t actually conceive using IVF - they used IUI. Totally different.


It’s been discussed and it’s a stupid thing to nit pick over. Most people don’t know what IUI is and unless you have zero social skills, you’re not going to explain it every time you discuss it.


Of course if it’s your candidate it’s stupid to nit pick over. The guy lied. He didn’t use IVF, but said he did to score political points. Own it.

Are you really this stupid, or just troll a lot online.


I am smart enough to know that IUI and IVF are two completely different procedures. So there’s that.


Why do you want to know exactly which artificial tube a guy's sperm was put through, you freak?


Because fertilizing an egg outside the body is completely different from fertilizing one inside the body. You freak.


Are you going to treat both of them the same morally, or is one going to be treated differently, you silly pedant?


If you think taking a pipette and inserting sperm into a woman’s uterus is no different than giving her drugs to stimulate the ovaries, putting her under and harvesting the eggs when they’re ready, injecting the egg with sperm in a lab, waiting until they divide enough to be implanted, choosing the best ones, freezing the rest, and then going back in and implanting the embryo in the woman’s uterus, then there is literally no rational conversation to be had here. None.


Yeah, so again, are you going to treat the fertilized products of these conceptions the same, or ... ?


They’re both babies. I don’t see your point. Are the republicans trying to ban IUI specifically?


Anyone?
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Post 08/24/2024 14:10     Subject: She picked Tim
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Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this has been discussed, but I read that even though he said he wouldn’t have a family if there was no IVF, they didn’t actually conceive using IVF - they used IUI. Totally different.


It’s been discussed and it’s a stupid thing to nit pick over. Most people don’t know what IUI is and unless you have zero social skills, you’re not going to explain it every time you discuss it.


Of course if it’s your candidate it’s stupid to nit pick over. The guy lied. He didn’t use IVF, but said he did to score political points. Own it.

Are you really this stupid, or just troll a lot online.


I am smart enough to know that IUI and IVF are two completely different procedures. So there’s that.


Why do you want to know exactly which artificial tube a guy's sperm was put through, you freak?


Because fertilizing an egg outside the body is completely different from fertilizing one inside the body. You freak.


Are you going to treat both of them the same morally, or is one going to be treated differently, you silly pedant?


Pedant? You are clearly scientifically illiterate if you think I’m being pedantic pointing out the differences. The only way they are similar is they result in a baby. Other than that, two extremely different procedures.


Sure thing. So are you going to treat the result of each of these processes as morally the same, or not?
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Post 08/24/2024 14:06     Subject: She picked Tim
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Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this has been discussed, but I read that even though he said he wouldn’t have a family if there was no IVF, they didn’t actually conceive using IVF - they used IUI. Totally different.


It’s been discussed and it’s a stupid thing to nit pick over. Most people don’t know what IUI is and unless you have zero social skills, you’re not going to explain it every time you discuss it.


Of course if it’s your candidate it’s stupid to nit pick over. The guy lied. He didn’t use IVF, but said he did to score political points. Own it.

Are you really this stupid, or just troll a lot online.


I am smart enough to know that IUI and IVF are two completely different procedures. So there’s that.


Why do you want to know exactly which artificial tube a guy's sperm was put through, you freak?


Because fertilizing an egg outside the body is completely different from fertilizing one inside the body. You freak.


Are you going to treat both of them the same morally, or is one going to be treated differently, you silly pedant?


If you think taking a pipette and inserting sperm into a woman’s uterus is no different than giving her drugs to stimulate the ovaries, putting her under and harvesting the eggs when they’re ready, injecting the egg with sperm in a lab, waiting until they divide enough to be implanted, choosing the best ones, freezing the rest, and then going back in and implanting the embryo in the woman’s uterus, then there is literally no rational conversation to be had here. None.


Yeah, so again, are you going to treat the fertilized products of these conceptions the same, or ... ?


They’re both babies. I don’t see your point. Are the republicans trying to ban IUI specifically?
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Post 08/24/2024 14:05     Subject: She picked Tim
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Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this has been discussed, but I read that even though he said he wouldn’t have a family if there was no IVF, they didn’t actually conceive using IVF - they used IUI. Totally different.


It’s been discussed and it’s a stupid thing to nit pick over. Most people don’t know what IUI is and unless you have zero social skills, you’re not going to explain it every time you discuss it.


Of course if it’s your candidate it’s stupid to nit pick over. The guy lied. He didn’t use IVF, but said he did to score political points. Own it.

Are you really this stupid, or just troll a lot online.


I am smart enough to know that IUI and IVF are two completely different procedures. So there’s that.


Why do you want to know exactly which artificial tube a guy's sperm was put through, you freak?


Because fertilizing an egg outside the body is completely different from fertilizing one inside the body. You freak.


Are you going to treat both of them the same morally, or is one going to be treated differently, you silly pedant?


Pedant? You are clearly scientifically illiterate if you think I’m being pedantic pointing out the differences. The only way they are similar is they result in a baby. Other than that, two extremely different procedures.
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2024 14:04     Subject: She picked Tim
Anonymous wrote:It is ridiculous to think that being a high school sports coach prepares in any way to serve as a VP.

Lately I've been watching some political shows like "Madam Secretary ". It is striking that in real life we can't expect even remotely the level of competence exhibited by those characters. Sadly, the show writers would make a better ticket than the current shameful offering.


How about serving as governor of a state that produced US$472 billion of gross domestic product in 2023?
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Post 08/24/2024 14:03     Subject: She picked Tim
Anonymous wrote:It is ridiculous to think that being a high school sports coach prepares in any way to serve as a VP.

Lately I've been watching some political shows like "Madam Secretary ". It is striking that in real life we can't expect even remotely the level of competence exhibited by those characters. Sadly, the show writers would make a better ticket than the current shameful offering.



What a bizarre interpretation. His 6 years as governor and 12 years in the House make his eminently more qualified than, say, JD Vance. His coaching and teaching experience are nice bonuses that speak to his interpersonal skills and commitment to service.
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Post 08/24/2024 14:02     Subject: She picked Tim
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Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this has been discussed, but I read that even though he said he wouldn’t have a family if there was no IVF, they didn’t actually conceive using IVF - they used IUI. Totally different.


It’s been discussed and it’s a stupid thing to nit pick over. Most people don’t know what IUI is and unless you have zero social skills, you’re not going to explain it every time you discuss it.


Of course if it’s your candidate it’s stupid to nit pick over. The guy lied. He didn’t use IVF, but said he did to score political points. Own it.

Are you really this stupid, or just troll a lot online.


I am smart enough to know that IUI and IVF are two completely different procedures. So there’s that.


Why do you want to know exactly which artificial tube a guy's sperm was put through, you freak?


Because fertilizing an egg outside the body is completely different from fertilizing one inside the body. You freak.


Are you going to treat both of them the same morally, or is one going to be treated differently, you silly pedant?


If you think taking a pipette and inserting sperm into a woman’s uterus is no different than giving her drugs to stimulate the ovaries, putting her under and harvesting the eggs when they’re ready, injecting the egg with sperm in a lab, waiting until they divide enough to be implanted, choosing the best ones, freezing the rest, and then going back in and implanting the embryo in the woman’s uterus, then there is literally no rational conversation to be had here. None.


Yeah, so again, are you going to treat the fertilized products of these conceptions the same, or ... ?
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2024 14:01     Subject: She picked Tim
Anonymous wrote:It is ridiculous to think that being a high school sports coach prepares in any way to serve as a VP.

Lately I've been watching some political shows like "Madam Secretary ". It is striking that in real life we can't expect even remotely the level of competence exhibited by those characters. Sadly, the show writers would make a better ticket than the current shameful offering.


It is ridiculous to ignore his experience in the House of Representatives and as a twice elected governor of Minnesota.

But you are not serious, are you?
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Post 08/24/2024 14:01     Subject: She picked Tim
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Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this has been discussed, but I read that even though he said he wouldn’t have a family if there was no IVF, they didn’t actually conceive using IVF - they used IUI. Totally different.


It’s been discussed and it’s a stupid thing to nit pick over. Most people don’t know what IUI is and unless you have zero social skills, you’re not going to explain it every time you discuss it.


Of course if it’s your candidate it’s stupid to nit pick over. The guy lied. He didn’t use IVF, but said he did to score political points. Own it.

Are you really this stupid, or just troll a lot online.


I am smart enough to know that IUI and IVF are two completely different procedures. So there’s that.


Congratulations. You are part of the .05% of people outside of fertility doctors to know this.


I hope you learned something then. They are vastly different. I can literally do one in my house. The other involves surgical procedures and a lab.
They are not even remotely the same.
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2024 14:01     Subject: She picked Tim
Anonymous wrote:It is ridiculous to think that being a high school sports coach prepares in any way to serve as a VP.

Lately I've been watching some political shows like "Madam Secretary ". It is striking that in real life we can't expect even remotely the level of competence exhibited by those characters. Sadly, the show writers would make a better ticket than the current shameful offering.


I know, right? Trump was never remotely qualified, and Vance has done absolutely nothing with his time. Pop ole RFKJ on top like the crazypants cherry, and you've got a real embarrassment of a political sundae.

At least Harris has VPOTUS experience, and Walz governed a state.
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Post 08/24/2024 14:00     Subject: She picked Tim
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Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this has been discussed, but I read that even though he said he wouldn’t have a family if there was no IVF, they didn’t actually conceive using IVF - they used IUI. Totally different.


It’s been discussed and it’s a stupid thing to nit pick over. Most people don’t know what IUI is and unless you have zero social skills, you’re not going to explain it every time you discuss it.


Of course if it’s your candidate it’s stupid to nit pick over. The guy lied. He didn’t use IVF, but said he did to score political points. Own it.

Are you really this stupid, or just troll a lot online.


I am smart enough to know that IUI and IVF are two completely different procedures. So there’s that.


Why do you want to know exactly which artificial tube a guy's sperm was put through, you freak?


Because fertilizing an egg outside the body is completely different from fertilizing one inside the body. You freak.


Are you going to treat both of them the same morally, or is one going to be treated differently, you silly pedant?


If you think taking a pipette and inserting sperm into a woman’s uterus is no different than giving her drugs to stimulate the ovaries, putting her under and harvesting the eggs when they’re ready, injecting the egg with sperm in a lab, waiting until they divide enough to be implanted, choosing the best ones, freezing the rest, and then going back in and implanting the embryo in the woman’s uterus, then there is literally no rational conversation to be had here. None.
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Post 08/24/2024 13:56     Subject: She picked Tim
It is ridiculous to think that being a high school sports coach prepares in any way to serve as a VP.

Lately I've been watching some political shows like "Madam Secretary ". It is striking that in real life we can't expect even remotely the level of competence exhibited by those characters. Sadly, the show writers would make a better ticket than the current shameful offering.
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2024 13:55     Subject: She picked Tim
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Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this has been discussed, but I read that even though he said he wouldn’t have a family if there was no IVF, they didn’t actually conceive using IVF - they used IUI. Totally different.


It’s been discussed and it’s a stupid thing to nit pick over. Most people don’t know what IUI is and unless you have zero social skills, you’re not going to explain it every time you discuss it.


Of course if it’s your candidate it’s stupid to nit pick over. The guy lied. He didn’t use IVF, but said he did to score political points. Own it.

Are you really this stupid, or just troll a lot online.


I am smart enough to know that IUI and IVF are two completely different procedures. So there’s that.


Congratulations. You are part of the .05% of people outside of fertility doctors to know this.
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2024 13:54     Subject: She picked Tim
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Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this has been discussed, but I read that even though he said he wouldn’t have a family if there was no IVF, they didn’t actually conceive using IVF - they used IUI. Totally different.


It’s been discussed and it’s a stupid thing to nit pick over. Most people don’t know what IUI is and unless you have zero social skills, you’re not going to explain it every time you discuss it.


Of course if it’s your candidate it’s stupid to nit pick over. The guy lied. He didn’t use IVF, but said he did to score political points. Own it.

Are you really this stupid, or just troll a lot online.


I am smart enough to know that IUI and IVF are two completely different procedures. So there’s that.


Why do you want to know exactly which artificial tube a guy's sperm was put through, you freak?


Because fertilizing an egg outside the body is completely different from fertilizing one inside the body. You freak.


Are you going to treat both of them the same morally, or is one going to be treated differently, you silly pedant?
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2024 13:52     Subject: She picked Tim
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Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this has been discussed, but I read that even though he said he wouldn’t have a family if there was no IVF, they didn’t actually conceive using IVF - they used IUI. Totally different.


It’s been discussed and it’s a stupid thing to nit pick over. Most people don’t know what IUI is and unless you have zero social skills, you’re not going to explain it every time you discuss it.


Of course if it’s your candidate it’s stupid to nit pick over. The guy lied. He didn’t use IVF, but said he did to score political points. Own it.

Are you really this stupid, or just troll a lot online.


I am smart enough to know that IUI and IVF are two completely different procedures. So there’s that.


NP. Injecting sperm into the woman's body with "turkey baster" is very different than extracting eggs and creating an embryo in a petri dish in the lab "in vitro", as the name says. He really should be more precise. Women have used a turkey battery for centuries to get pregnant, see for example Jackie Kennedy's mother for her two last pregnancies.