Vance out there trying to sell the hot air like a Kirby vacuum cleaner salesman

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Anonymous wrote:BREAKING: Iran says the US has agreed to pay $300 billion in reconstruction funds directly to Iran as part of the deal Pakistan announced, alongside the release of $24 billion in frozen funds with $12 billion released before negotiations even start, per
Mehr News. This directly contradicts Trump's & Vance's claim
that no funds will be transferred to Iran at all. If Trump denies this is true, there never was a deal. If Trump confirms, the US has fully capitulated To Iran.

So at this point I think we can say Iran won the war, right?

Yes. What’s even worse is the regime is more popular today than before the war. We did them a favor. The former agnostic liberal hippie in Tehran is now a “death to Israel and America” hardliner after seeing the death and destruction Dumb and Dumber brought to them.. the regime’s entire premise was that America and Israel are unstable dangerous existential threats to Iran and we proved them right

Not true. They are furious that US started a war with no plans to help them. they are NOT supportive of the new regime. The Iranian people are f -ed

DP. Disagree. The new regime is fighting for Iran against the US and Israel. The US(and later Israel) have been oppressing and killing Iranians from WW2 to present. The new regime now has won the hearts and minds of the Iranian people because they have defeated the US and Israel. The evil the US and Israel have visited on Iran is truly horrific. The US killed 1/3 to 1/2 of the population during WW2, betrayed & killed democracy in Iran in 1950’s, installed the Shah, gave weapons/support to Iraq’s Hussein for 8 years, sponsored countless proxies against Iran, etc, etc. The Iranian people know who we are.

This defeat set the stage for the next 50 years and the US will not be in the Middle East. This is catastrophic for Israel.

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Of course you're going to have a great relationship when you're sending them $300 billion of US taxpayer funds as reparations.

$300 billion to Iran will require appropriations. And there is zero chance of that bill passing Congress.

This entire deal is hot air. We don't even know what's in the MOU that Republicans are celebrating. What is known is that the US has suffered a huge loss - not because of the military, but because the stupidest MAGA imbeciles that are running things. We all know Trump is not right. But this war was conducted by Hegseth, Vance, and Rubio. Genuine morons for pursuing an un-winnable war. And now the entire world has to deal with what they've done.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought this war was started because Iran was an imminent threat and close to getting a nuclear bomb. But this supposed peace still doesn’t address their nuclear capabilities at all.

I guess there is an advantage to not having a reason for starting a war.

The MOU mentions nothing about inspections confirming when Iran says that it’s not enriching uranium that its true. And also makes no mention of the Strait being free and open unless I missed something?

Those things are in the US version of the MOU. 😉

Link to this US version? Seems like a problem if there are two versions. It would indicate there is not in fact an agreement.

I guess we could consider Iran is lying. But no, not DCUM

Any rational person who has been even half-awake for the past several years would rightly assume that Trump is the one lying.

Iran NEVER lies, right?

Unlikely. But Trump ALWAYS lies, so it's usually best to wait for Iran for verification.

+1 Why don’t they just officially release the MOU?

Trump claims it will he released after Friday, gives him time to come up with lies as to why it’s clearly a surrender

We’re just TWO WEEKS from seeing it. Just like Infrastructure Week!!

Hey guys, they are just waiting for those two mysterious downed pilots that they rescued to recover so that they can be present for the release of the MOU.

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Anonymous wrote:BREAKING: Iran says the US has agreed to pay $300 billion in reconstruction funds directly to Iran as part of the deal Pakistan announced, alongside the release of $24 billion in frozen funds with $12 billion released before negotiations even start, per
Mehr News. This directly contradicts Trump's & Vance's claim
that no funds will be transferred to Iran at all. If Trump denies this is true, there never was a deal. If Trump confirms, the US has fully capitulated To Iran.

So at this point I think we can say Iran won the war, right?

Yes. What’s even worse is the regime is more popular today than before the war. We did them a favor. The former agnostic liberal hippie in Tehran is now a “death to Israel and America” hardliner after seeing the death and destruction Dumb and Dumber brought to them.. the regime’s entire premise was that America and Israel are unstable dangerous existential threats to Iran and we proved them right

Not true. They are furious that US started a war with no plans to help them. they are NOT supportive of the new regime. The Iranian people are f -ed

Iranians are going to be rich from extorting all those tolls to allow tankers through. They might as well put up a banner of Trump in Tehran.

The people won’t see a dime. And The regime will continue to torture its citizens.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought this war was started because Iran was an imminent threat and close to getting a nuclear bomb. But this supposed peace still doesn’t address their nuclear capabilities at all.

I guess there is an advantage to not having a reason for starting a war.

The MOU mentions nothing about inspections confirming when Iran says that it’s not enriching uranium that its true. And also makes no mention of the Strait being free and open unless I missed something?

Those things are in the US version of the MOU. 😉

Link to this US version? Seems like a problem if there are two versions. It would indicate there is not in fact an agreement.

I guess we could consider Iran is lying. But no, not DCUM

Any rational person who has been even half-awake for the past several years would rightly assume that Trump is the one lying.

Iran NEVER lies, right?

Unlikely. But Trump ALWAYS lies, so it's usually best to wait for Iran for verification.

+1 Why don’t they just officially release the MOU?

Trump claims it will he released after Friday, gives him time to come up with lies as to why it’s clearly a surrender

We’re just TWO WEEKS from seeing it. Just like Infrastructure Week!!

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Anonymous wrote:BREAKING: Iran says the US has agreed to pay $300 billion in reconstruction funds directly to Iran as part of the deal Pakistan announced, alongside the release of $24 billion in frozen funds with $12 billion released before negotiations even start, per
Mehr News. This directly contradicts Trump's & Vance's claim
that no funds will be transferred to Iran at all. If Trump denies this is true, there never was a deal. If Trump confirms, the US has fully capitulated To Iran.

So at this point I think we can say Iran won the war, right?

Yes. What’s even worse is the regime is more popular today than before the war. We did them a favor. The former agnostic liberal hippie in Tehran is now a “death to Israel and America” hardliner after seeing the death and destruction Dumb and Dumber brought to them.. the regime’s entire premise was that America and Israel are unstable dangerous existential threats to Iran and we proved them right

Not true. They are furious that US started a war with no plans to help them. they are NOT supportive of the new regime. The Iranian people are f -ed

Iranians are going to be rich from extorting all those tolls to allow tankers through. They might as well put up a banner of Trump in Tehran.

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Anonymous wrote:BREAKING: Iran says the US has agreed to pay $300 billion in reconstruction funds directly to Iran as part of the deal Pakistan announced, alongside the release of $24 billion in frozen funds with $12 billion released before negotiations even start, per
Mehr News. This directly contradicts Trump's & Vance's claim
that no funds will be transferred to Iran at all. If Trump denies this is true, there never was a deal. If Trump confirms, the US has fully capitulated To Iran.

So at this point I think we can say Iran won the war, right?

Yes. What’s even worse is the regime is more popular today than before the war. We did them a favor. The former agnostic liberal hippie in Tehran is now a “death to Israel and America” hardliner after seeing the death and destruction Dumb and Dumber brought to them.. the regime’s entire premise was that America and Israel are unstable dangerous existential threats to Iran and we proved them right

Not true. They are furious that US started a war with no plans to help them. they are NOT supportive of the new regime. The Iranian people are f -ed

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That’s a lie. Pakistan has relationships with Iran. The US has not met with anyone from Iran since April 11th.

It is pretty clear there is no deal when one side says there won't be tolls and the other says there will, when one side says no money changing hands and the other side says send me the 325 magic palettes of cash!

Anonymous wrote:I don't really understand how people paint Iran as the bad actor or blame them for "lying" in the past.

Haven't they been attacked over and over again by Israel, and now the US?

How many girls schools has Iran blown up?

Well if they are not the bad actors Israel would not need billions from the US.

I don't really understand how people paint Iran as the bad actor or blame them for "lying" in the past.

Haven't they been attacked over and over again by Israel, and now the US?

How many girls schools has Iran blown up?

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Of course you're going to have a great relationship when you're sending them $300 billion of US taxpayer funds as reparations.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought this war was started because Iran was an imminent threat and close to getting a nuclear bomb. But this supposed peace still doesn’t address their nuclear capabilities at all.

I guess there is an advantage to not having a reason for starting a war.

The MOU mentions nothing about inspections confirming when Iran says that it’s not enriching uranium that its true. And also makes no mention of the Strait being free and open unless I missed something?

Those things are in the US version of the MOU. 😉

Link to this US version? Seems like a problem if there are two versions. It would indicate there is not in fact an agreement.

I guess we could consider Iran is lying. But no, not DCUM

Any rational person who has been even half-awake for the past several years would rightly assume that Trump is the one lying.

Iran NEVER lies, right?

Trump could just release the MOU and clear it all up. Why won’t he do that?

+1 WTF