Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 22:43     Subject: Re:Roe v Wade struck down

Anonymous wrote:What are they still mad about?

As I keep saying: women aren’t people in the GOP. They’re mad that Planned Parenthood keeps treating women like citizens and humans.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 20:16     Subject: Roe v Wade struck down

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Here it is. Jailed for having an abortion.

*but you all said this would never happen*

Quick reminder that they also say they’ll never go after birth control, just so all the No Labels/Forward/moderate/independents can understand where the their GOP votes want to take us.
she isn’t being jailed for an abortion of her viable child she is being jailed for burning and burying the body


…you mean what a hospital or doctors office who would have provided competent medical assistance would
Have been responsible for in a civilized state?


Pre Dobbs, pro-lifers got passed a requirement that abortion doctors must have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital. This was deemed unacceptable to pro-choicers, and they got the Supreme Court to throw it out.


What does that even have to do with the fact that if she'd lived in a state that doesn't demonize and try to outright ban abortions, this teen would have gotten the help she needed probably at a much earlier stage of her pregnancy, and if she'd been able to go to a clinic or doctor's office or hospital to end her pregnancy they would have taken care of proper disposal?
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 20:11     Subject: Roe v Wade struck down

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Here it is. Jailed for having an abortion.

*but you all said this would never happen*

Quick reminder that they also say they’ll never go after birth control, just so all the No Labels/Forward/moderate/independents can understand where the their GOP votes want to take us.
she isn’t being jailed for an abortion of her viable child she is being jailed for burning and burying the body


…you mean what a hospital or doctors office who would have provided competent medical assistance would
Have been responsible for in a civilized state?


Pre Dobbs, pro-lifers got passed a requirement that abortion doctors must have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital. This was deemed unacceptable to pro-choicers, and they got the Supreme Court to throw it out.


Why was the anti-abortionists' requirement something that was needed? Abortion is safer than giving birth. (Yes, it is, look up statistics.)
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 17:36     Subject: Re:Roe v Wade struck down

What are they still mad about?
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 16:31     Subject: Roe v Wade struck down

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Here it is. Jailed for having an abortion.

*but you all said this would never happen*

Quick reminder that they also say they’ll never go after birth control, just so all the No Labels/Forward/moderate/independents can understand where the their GOP votes want to take us.
she isn’t being jailed for an abortion of her viable child she is being jailed for burning and burying the body


…you mean what a hospital or doctors office who would have provided competent medical assistance would
Have been responsible for in a civilized state?


Pre Dobbs, pro-lifers got passed a requirement that abortion doctors must have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital. This was deemed unacceptable to pro-choicers, and they got the Supreme Court to throw it out.


And? Post Dobbs, if she had been lucky enough to live in a well educated part of the country, she would have had all of the disposal issues dealt with by the competent medical provider who could have helped a pregnant teen.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 15:49     Subject: Roe v Wade struck down

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Here it is. Jailed for having an abortion.

*but you all said this would never happen*

Quick reminder that they also say they’ll never go after birth control, just so all the No Labels/Forward/moderate/independents can understand where the their GOP votes want to take us.
she isn’t being jailed for an abortion of her viable child she is being jailed for burning and burying the body


…you mean what a hospital or doctors office who would have provided competent medical assistance would
Have been responsible for in a civilized state?


Pre Dobbs, pro-lifers got passed a requirement that abortion doctors must have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital. This was deemed unacceptable to pro-choicers, and they got the Supreme Court to throw it out.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 15:45     Subject: Roe v Wade struck down

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Anonymous wrote:Good. I’m against abortion bans because they do not include exceptions, but in 2023 with over 22 forms of birth control, no pregnancy unless through SA, should be unplanned. I’m tired of Democrats whining about “ forced births”. There is no such thing when you willingly engage in an act that can lead to pregnancy. Instead of whining about that, why not use proper protection or abstain until you can support a child? Instead you stupidly and recklessly engage in unprotected sex and then just get rid of the pregnancy because you’re too irresponsible. It sounds like many of you have a serious accountability issue.

Never needed an abortion in my life, not even one of those abortions that forced birthers don’t think are abortions. Sounds like you’re speaking from a guilty conscience and a yawning chasm where your empathy gene should be.


I never had an abortion. I just don’t think a baby deserves a life punishment for your irresponsible stupidity.


Following your logic, the baby will have an irresponsible stupid mother..and that's definitely a life punishment.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 15:44     Subject: Roe v Wade struck down

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good. I’m against abortion bans because they do not include exceptions, but in 2023 with over 22 forms of birth control, no pregnancy unless through SA, should be unplanned. I’m tired of Democrats whining about “ forced births”. There is no such thing when you willingly engage in an act that can lead to pregnancy. Instead of whining about that, why not use proper protection or abstain until you can support a child? Instead you stupidly and recklessly engage in unprotected sex and then just get rid of the pregnancy because you’re too irresponsible. It sounds like many of you have a serious accountability issue.

Maybe try living in reality? Half of pregnancies in this country are unplanned.


They shouldn’t be. How about being a responsible adult and using adequate protection or abstaining? It seems like Democrats aren’t a smart enough to use protection. We have over 22 forms of birth control in this country. There should never be abortions unless for the exemption reasons.


LOL welcome to your delusion that no Republican has had an abortion ever.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 15:40     Subject: Roe v Wade struck down

Anonymous wrote:Good. I’m against abortion bans because they do not include exceptions, but in 2023 with over 22 forms of birth control, no pregnancy unless through SA, should be unplanned. I’m tired of Democrats whining about “ forced births”. There is no such thing when you willingly engage in an act that can lead to pregnancy. Instead of whining about that, why not use proper protection or abstain until you can support a child? Instead you stupidly and recklessly engage in unprotected sex and then just get rid of the pregnancy because you’re too irresponsible. It sounds like many of you have a serious accountability issue.


I see. So you think that stupid, reckless and irresponsible people should take care of newborns?
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 15:27     Subject: Roe v Wade struck down

Anonymous wrote:They try what they think they can absolutely 100% get a conviction on. If you think they wouldn’t have tried her on an abortion charge, they would have if they could have.


It's difficult to sympathize with someone who staged a self-abortion at 30 weeks. I am completely pro-choice but come on, thirty weeks!
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 15:24     Subject: Re:Roe v Wade struck down

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Anonymous wrote:This is one of the state’s witnesses in the case against Texas today.

👏🏻 The 👏🏻 cruelty 👏🏻 is 👏🏻 the 👏🏻 point

Can you imagine hating your own sex so much that you think a 9 year old child, legally incapable of consenting to sexual intercourse, should be sentenced to a chance of death via pregnancy and birth?


Can you imagine being in Texas and saying literally anyone “could give birth without health risks” given their maternal mortality rates?!?


+1 Maternal mortality rates have also been on the rise in Texas over the past two decades, increasing from 10.3 deaths per 100,000 live births in 1999 to 21.9 in 2019.

Also in Texas, infant deaths rose by 227 in 2022 under the abortion ban compared to 2021, in part because of unviable pregnancies forced to be carried to term.

From testimony in the Texas lawsuit yesterday:




Absolutely horrific. It is undeniable that the forced-birthers are causing significant death and suffering. "Pro-life" is a lie.

It always has been. Texas has been forced birth for a while but as a PP noted with stats, their mortality numbers are crap. What have they, allegedly a “pro life” state, done to fix that? Nothing.

And Abbott promised he was going to wave a magic wand and end rape. I haven’t heard him say or do anything.


The pro-life folk imagined a post-Roe world where there would be lots of healthy white babies born of women who didn't want their children and would give them to parents waiting desperately to adopt. The never thought about problem pregnancies, babies born addicted to drugs, babies born with multiple birth defects who would live very short, very expensive, very unpleasant lives, and they never, ever thought about brown babies who languish waiting for adoption. And they never considered the physical or emotional costs to the mothers of all these unwanted pregancies. Nor did they consider children made pregnant by rapists, and women facing death because of a pregnancy they need to abort.
No, they only imagined those cherubic white babies.... Hundreds, thousands of those healthy white babies... That was the dream....


I don’t think that’s true.

I think they see those languishing. Lack and brown babies and think— that’s the solution to having low paid workers in this country. I think they see women desperate and scared and think— that’s right, not so busy running for office and voting now are you?
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 14:56     Subject: Roe v Wade struck down

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Pence said in a CNN interview the other day that he supports a full abortion ban for nonviable pregnancies because it is the doctor's "subjective opinion" and there is still a chance the baby will live. So let's force a woman to go through the pain and trauma and potential physical complications of full childbirth because the doctor was just making things up?


He’a such a d!ck.

Meanwhile making women go through the last 3-4 months of a non-viable pregnancy potentially means they’ll never get pregnant again, especially for women toward the end of their fertile years where every month of ttc counts.

And this is just one of the many tells that shows that the forced birth party isn’t in this for the “life,” but for the cruelty and control.


Oh FFS, abortion has ALWAYS been about control. That's the whole point. Men controlling women. Start from there, always.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 14:52     Subject: Re:Roe v Wade struck down

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is one of the state’s witnesses in the case against Texas today.

👏🏻 The 👏🏻 cruelty 👏🏻 is 👏🏻 the 👏🏻 point

Can you imagine hating your own sex so much that you think a 9 year old child, legally incapable of consenting to sexual intercourse, should be sentenced to a chance of death via pregnancy and birth?


Can you imagine being in Texas and saying literally anyone “could give birth without health risks” given their maternal mortality rates?!?


+1 Maternal mortality rates have also been on the rise in Texas over the past two decades, increasing from 10.3 deaths per 100,000 live births in 1999 to 21.9 in 2019.

Also in Texas, infant deaths rose by 227 in 2022 under the abortion ban compared to 2021, in part because of unviable pregnancies forced to be carried to term.

From testimony in the Texas lawsuit yesterday:




Absolutely horrific. It is undeniable that the forced-birthers are causing significant death and suffering. "Pro-life" is a lie.

It always has been. Texas has been forced birth for a while but as a PP noted with stats, their mortality numbers are crap. What have they, allegedly a “pro life” state, done to fix that? Nothing.

And Abbott promised he was going to wave a magic wand and end rape. I haven’t heard him say or do anything.


The pro-life folk imagined a post-Roe world where there would be lots of healthy white babies born of women who didn't want their children and would give them to parents waiting desperately to adopt. The never thought about problem pregnancies, babies born addicted to drugs, babies born with multiple birth defects who would live very short, very expensive, very unpleasant lives, and they never, ever thought about brown babies who languish waiting for adoption. And they never considered the physical or emotional costs to the mothers of all these unwanted pregancies. Nor did they consider children made pregnant by rapists, and women facing death because of a pregnancy they need to abort.
No, they only imagined those cherubic white babies.... Hundreds, thousands of those healthy white babies... That was the dream....
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 14:40     Subject: Roe v Wade struck down

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Pence said in a CNN interview the other day that he supports a full abortion ban for nonviable pregnancies because it is the doctor's "subjective opinion" and there is still a chance the baby will live. So let's force a woman to go through the pain and trauma and potential physical complications of full childbirth because the doctor was just making things up?


He’a such a d!ck.

Meanwhile making women go through the last 3-4 months of a non-viable pregnancy potentially means they’ll never get pregnant again, especially for women toward the end of their fertile years where every month of ttc counts.

And this is just one of the many tells that shows that the forced birth party isn’t in this for the “life,” but for the cruelty and control.


Yet millions will still vote for them because Dems suck at getting a message out.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 14:36     Subject: Roe v Wade struck down

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pence said in a CNN interview the other day that he supports a full abortion ban for nonviable pregnancies because it is the doctor's "subjective opinion" and there is still a chance the baby will live. So let's force a woman to go through the pain and trauma and potential physical complications of full childbirth because the doctor was just making things up?


He’a such a d!ck.

Meanwhile making women go through the last 3-4 months of a non-viable pregnancy potentially means they’ll never get pregnant again, especially for women toward the end of their fertile years where every month of ttc counts.

And this is just one of the many tells that shows that the forced birth party isn’t in this for the “life,” but for the cruelty and control.