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Anonymous wrote:Someone posted earlier that Reid said that the scenarios had not be "vetted." Does she mean that staff never looked at them to check for known issues?

What do these people get paid to do?

Hard to believe that Reid (who did not know about issues in Rt 1 corridor) is weighing in on boundaries and answering? questions.

She was talking about the 4 maps they posted for the Western High School.

Who created the maps? Staff or THRU?

And why are they showing maps to the public and getting no people all upset if they are not vetted? I swear she just says things to get people to calm down in the moment. As soon as someone is freaking out about a change she’s all “don’t worry that’s just a super drafty draft” regardless of whether that’s true. The school board must be beyond frustrated with her because then they have to clean up her mess. She is just telling everyone what they want to hear while they’re in front of her. I wouldn’t trust anything she says at this point.

Why are they doing 7 revidions to the county wide rezoning maps, based on who complains the most on the previous map?

More like who has the biggest tantrum. Some of these grown adults should be ashamed of themselves.

💯 I can't believe the school board and Dr. Reid are so stupid that they think the people who make the biggest stink are actually the majority. They're not in most instances. In most instances, the majority of the school population is indifferent but the "active families" (meaning the wealthy ones) are the most vocal and have the resources to make their voices loud and their opinions heard. It enrages me that FCPS school board/admin hasn't figured this out yet.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone posted earlier that Reid said that the scenarios had not be "vetted." Does she mean that staff never looked at them to check for known issues?

What do these people get paid to do?

Hard to believe that Reid (who did not know about issues in Rt 1 corridor) is weighing in on boundaries and answering? questions.

She was talking about the 4 maps they posted for the Western High School.

Who created the maps? Staff or THRU?

And why are they showing maps to the public and getting no people all upset if they are not vetted? I swear she just says things to get people to calm down in the moment. As soon as someone is freaking out about a change she’s all “don’t worry that’s just a super drafty draft” regardless of whether that’s true. The school board must be beyond frustrated with her because then they have to clean up her mess. She is just telling everyone what they want to hear while they’re in front of her. I wouldn’t trust anything she says at this point.

Why are they doing 7 revidions to the county wide rezoning maps, based on who complains the most on the previous map?

More like who has the biggest tantrum. Some of these grown adults should be ashamed of themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:The split exists at so many schools. Why is one school prioritized over others? They told us it was because having less than 25% split was a problem. Wolftrap had 60:40. Marshall road splits between Oakton and Madison, Thoreau is a 3 way split with 5%going to Marshall. What is wrong with these people in charge. Leave the original boundaries and switch only where the a need for relief. This is not a comprehensive boundary review as it is only catering to the vocal people.

Kilmer is the most overcrowded MS in the county and you ignored this.

The Scenario 4 proposal to move the rest of Wolftrap to Madison and all to Thoreau wasn’t born of some desire to cater to Wolftrap families. It started with the need to bring down the enrollment at Kilmer with the elimination of the split feeder and making use of the hundreds of extra seats at Madison following its expansion a bonus.

No one ignored this. The county can not support true pyramids as the size and number of schools will not support it. Sending Madison students to Thoreau would have been enough to help Kilmer. Then there was also the relief to Kilmer from the Longfellow middle school switch that was an option. The need to have people in the same middle school and high school has left schools over 100% and others in the 80’s.

Kilmer will have even more relief next year with adding AAP to Thoreau.

The AAP change is not happening next year. It might not happen until the next 5year review. First Reid has to present a plan, then the school board has to vote on it, and then they need to figure out how to phase it in through staffing and potential boundary adjustments.

This is NOT complicated since there is a comprehensive boundary review in progress. AAP boundaries change and the process targets the potential number of transfers out /back in from a base school. If its an expanded POS-program of studies - for all AAP at the base middle school, it's scheduling, staff licensed to teach a course etc. This is not launching a space shuttle. Our kids went to 2 new ones.

Cooper process outline that could be used for Stone, Liberty, Thoreau. https://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/943T7Z75C1EB/$file/AAP%20Level%20IV%20Center%20Proposal%20for%20Cooper%20MS.pdf

Cool, but they haven’t even voted to proceed with AAP at every middle school, so they can’t implement it yet. When I asked my school board rep, they said it would be years down the line. My impression is that they’ll wait until the next comprehensive review to implement it.

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My takeaway was they seem to have bamboozled Reid into believing they should not only stay at Chantilly but also move to Rocky Run

I don't think she's considering anything. One solution was to move sixth grade to RR. There's nowhere near enough room for an entire grade. What's the plan just move GBE? Have some sixth grade on MS time others on ES? That's a shit show for after school activities.

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My takeaway was they seem to have bamboozled Reid into believing they should not only stay at Chantilly but also move to Rocky Run

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Anonymous wrote:The split exists at so many schools. Why is one school prioritized over others? They told us it was because having less than 25% split was a problem. Wolftrap had 60:40. Marshall road splits between Oakton and Madison, Thoreau is a 3 way split with 5%going to Marshall. What is wrong with these people in charge. Leave the original boundaries and switch only where the a need for relief. This is not a comprehensive boundary review as it is only catering to the vocal people.

Kilmer is the most overcrowded MS in the county and you ignored this.

The Scenario 4 proposal to move the rest of Wolftrap to Madison and all to Thoreau wasn’t born of some desire to cater to Wolftrap families. It started with the need to bring down the enrollment at Kilmer with the elimination of the split feeder and making use of the hundreds of extra seats at Madison following its expansion a bonus.

No one ignored this. The county can not support true pyramids as the size and number of schools will not support it. Sending Madison students to Thoreau would have been enough to help Kilmer. Then there was also the relief to Kilmer from the Longfellow middle school switch that was an option. The need to have people in the same middle school and high school has left schools over 100% and others in the 80’s.

Kilmer will have even more relief next year with adding AAP to Thoreau.

The AAP change is not happening next year. It might not happen until the next 5year review. First Reid has to present a plan, then the school board has to vote on it, and then they need to figure out how to phase it in through staffing and potential boundary adjustments.

This is NOT complicated since there is a comprehensive boundary review in progress. AAP boundaries change and the process targets the potential number of transfers out /back in from a base school. If its an expanded POS-program of studies - for all AAP at the base middle school, it's scheduling, staff licensed to teach a course etc. This is not launching a space shuttle. Our kids went to 2 new ones.

Cooper process outline that could be used for Stone, Liberty, Thoreau. https://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/943T7Z75C1EB/$file/AAP%20Level%20IV%20Center%20Proposal%20for%20Cooper%20MS.pdf

Cool, but they haven’t even voted to proceed with AAP at every middle school, so they can’t implement it yet. When I asked my school board rep, they said it would be years down the line. My impression is that they’ll wait until the next comprehensive review to implement it.

FCPS should first add AAP to the pyramids like Lewis/Key that have hundreds of their highest performing students transferring to other schools next year.

FCPS csn stand up an AAP middle school program in a month or two, and have it ready by Fall 2026.

That is what the did with the Irving program. It was literally 1-2 months from concept to registering students.

If they focus on just the 1-2 schools with the biggest transfer deficit, FCPS can have those middle school programs ready to register students in January 2026 and launched in fall 2026.

SY2024-25. School profiles listed advanced academic level iv counts. No split on AAP center. Subtract AAP transfer in and you get base school level iv.

Carson 738 - 266 = 472
Rocky Run 248 transfer in total 506 - 225 = 281
Lake Braddock 620 - 203 = 417
Twain 407 - 140 = 267
Glasgow - 491 - 120 = 371
Hughes 439 - 101 = 338
Sandburg 571 - 79 = 492
Jackson 365 - 75 = 290
Frost 576 - 60 = 516
Kilmer 616 - 20 = 596
Cooper 555 - 0 = 555
Franklin 275 - 0 = 275
Hayfield 225 - 0 = 225
Herndon 222 - 0 = 222
Holmes 212 - 0 = 212
Irving 406 - 0 = 406
Katherine Johnson 423 - 0 = 423
Key 146 - 0 = 146
Liberty 202 - 0 = 202
Longfellow 903 - 0 = 903
Poe 89 - 0 = 89
Robinson 371 - 0 = 371
South County 367 - 0 = 367
Stone 168 - 0 = 168
Thoreau 557 - 0 = 557
Whitman 139 - 0 = 139

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Anonymous wrote:The split exists at so many schools. Why is one school prioritized over others? They told us it was because having less than 25% split was a problem. Wolftrap had 60:40. Marshall road splits between Oakton and Madison, Thoreau is a 3 way split with 5%going to Marshall. What is wrong with these people in charge. Leave the original boundaries and switch only where the a need for relief. This is not a comprehensive boundary review as it is only catering to the vocal people.

Kilmer is the most overcrowded MS in the county and you ignored this.

The Scenario 4 proposal to move the rest of Wolftrap to Madison and all to Thoreau wasn’t born of some desire to cater to Wolftrap families. It started with the need to bring down the enrollment at Kilmer with the elimination of the split feeder and making use of the hundreds of extra seats at Madison following its expansion a bonus.

No one ignored this. The county can not support true pyramids as the size and number of schools will not support it. Sending Madison students to Thoreau would have been enough to help Kilmer. Then there was also the relief to Kilmer from the Longfellow middle school switch that was an option. The need to have people in the same middle school and high school has left schools over 100% and others in the 80’s.

Kilmer will have even more relief next year with adding AAP to Thoreau.

The AAP change is not happening next year. It might not happen until the next 5year review. First Reid has to present a plan, then the school board has to vote on it, and then they need to figure out how to phase it in through staffing and potential boundary adjustments.

This is NOT complicated since there is a comprehensive boundary review in progress. AAP boundaries change and the process targets the potential number of transfers out /back in from a base school. If its an expanded POS-program of studies - for all AAP at the base middle school, it's scheduling, staff licensed to teach a course etc. This is not launching a space shuttle. Our kids went to 2 new ones.

Cooper process outline that could be used for Stone, Liberty, Thoreau. https://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/943T7Z75C1EB/$file/AAP%20Level%20IV%20Center%20Proposal%20for%20Cooper%20MS.pdf

Cool, but they haven’t even voted to proceed with AAP at every middle school, so they can’t implement it yet. When I asked my school board rep, they said it would be years down the line. My impression is that they’ll wait until the next comprehensive review to implement it.

FCPS should first add AAP to the pyramids like Lewis/Key that have hundreds of their highest performing students transferring to other schools next year.

FCPS csn stand up an AAP middle school program in a month or two, and have it ready by Fall 2026.

That is what the did with the Irving program. It was literally 1-2 months from concept to registering students.

If they focus on just the 1-2 schools with the biggest transfer deficit, FCPS can have those middle school programs ready to register students in January 2026 and launched in fall 2026.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone posted earlier that Reid said that the scenarios had not be "vetted." Does she mean that staff never looked at them to check for known issues?

What do these people get paid to do?

Hard to believe that Reid (who did not know about issues in Rt 1 corridor) is weighing in on boundaries and answering? questions.

She was talking about the 4 maps they posted for the Western High School.

Who created the maps? Staff or THRU?

And why are they showing maps to the public and getting no people all upset if they are not vetted? I swear she just says things to get people to calm down in the moment. As soon as someone is freaking out about a change she’s all “don’t worry that’s just a super drafty draft” regardless of whether that’s true. The school board must be beyond frustrated with her because then they have to clean up her mess. She is just telling everyone what they want to hear while they’re in front of her. I wouldn’t trust anything she says at this point.

Why are they doing 7 revidions to the county wide rezoning maps, based on who complains the most on the previous map?

More like who has the biggest tantrum. Some of these grown adults should be ashamed of themselves.

I’m at the point where I am disgusted with this entire process. They left way too much time for community input… too many cooks in the kitchen and people want opposite things. Someone will be mad no matter what. And the way they’ve gone about it just ensures the pushiest people get their way. They could not have screwed this all up more even if they tried.

Poor baby, you didn’t get to ruin more kids’ lives. I’m so sorry that they provided some time for constituents to be heard.

You’re disgusting.

Oh shut up idiot. You have no idea who you're talking to. We are caught up in one of the biggest messes with this. At some point it gets exhausting dealing with this months-long drawn out process with changes going back and forth and drama queens throwing tantrums and calling it "advocacy". Just tell me where my kids are going to school so we can look at the bright side and adjust. No one's lives are being ruined. You are a terrible example for your children using that language. They are going to crumble when faced with real setbacks in adulthood.

Well, as you pointed out in your prior post, someone is going to be mad no matter what. Glad it was you, because I’m sure you were thinking you were going to get your way at the expense of moving others’ kids. Sometimes karma is a b.

In the meantime, as your tone deaf and logically inconsistent post argues, you seem to think this will have no impact on mental health, so, as we tell our 3-year old, stop whining. You think kids won’t be impacted, then you have nothing to complain about.

Way to entirely make up a scenario in your head. I don’t have a “way” that I wanted, just an end to the uncertainty. Not once have I advocated to move other people’s kids. You are talking out of your *ss as I suspect you do in much of your life.

Then be mad at the school board for engaging in this costly and unnecessary endeavor in the first place.

Place blame where it’s due.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone posted earlier that Reid said that the scenarios had not be "vetted." Does she mean that staff never looked at them to check for known issues?

What do these people get paid to do?

Hard to believe that Reid (who did not know about issues in Rt 1 corridor) is weighing in on boundaries and answering? questions.

She was talking about the 4 maps they posted for the Western High School.

Who created the maps? Staff or THRU?

And why are they showing maps to the public and getting no people all upset if they are not vetted? I swear she just says things to get people to calm down in the moment. As soon as someone is freaking out about a change she’s all “don’t worry that’s just a super drafty draft” regardless of whether that’s true. The school board must be beyond frustrated with her because then they have to clean up her mess. She is just telling everyone what they want to hear while they’re in front of her. I wouldn’t trust anything she says at this point.

Why are they doing 7 revidions to the county wide rezoning maps, based on who complains the most on the previous map?

More like who has the biggest tantrum. Some of these grown adults should be ashamed of themselves.

I’m at the point where I am disgusted with this entire process. They left way too much time for community input… too many cooks in the kitchen and people want opposite things. Someone will be mad no matter what. And the way they’ve gone about it just ensures the pushiest people get their way. They could not have screwed this all up more even if they tried.

Poor baby, you didn’t get to ruin more kids’ lives. I’m so sorry that they provided some time for constituents to be heard.

You’re disgusting.

Oh shut up idiot. You have no idea who you're talking to. We are caught up in one of the biggest messes with this. At some point it gets exhausting dealing with this months-long drawn out process with changes going back and forth and drama queens throwing tantrums and calling it "advocacy". Just tell me where my kids are going to school so we can look at the bright side and adjust. No one's lives are being ruined. You are a terrible example for your children using that language. They are going to crumble when faced with real setbacks in adulthood.

Well, as you pointed out in your prior post, someone is going to be mad no matter what. Glad it was you, because I’m sure you were thinking you were going to get your way at the expense of moving others’ kids. Sometimes karma is a b.

In the meantime, as your tone deaf and logically inconsistent post argues, you seem to think this will have no impact on mental health, so, as we tell our 3-year old, stop whining. You think kids won’t be impacted, then you have nothing to complain about.

Way to entirely make up a scenario in your head. I don’t have a “way” that I wanted, just an end to the uncertainty. Not once have I advocated to move other people’s kids. You are talking out of your *ss as I suspect you do in much of your life.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone posted earlier that Reid said that the scenarios had not be "vetted." Does she mean that staff never looked at them to check for known issues?

What do these people get paid to do?

Hard to believe that Reid (who did not know about issues in Rt 1 corridor) is weighing in on boundaries and answering? questions.

She was talking about the 4 maps they posted for the Western High School.

Who created the maps? Staff or THRU?

And why are they showing maps to the public and getting no people all upset if they are not vetted? I swear she just says things to get people to calm down in the moment. As soon as someone is freaking out about a change she’s all “don’t worry that’s just a super drafty draft” regardless of whether that’s true. The school board must be beyond frustrated with her because then they have to clean up her mess. She is just telling everyone what they want to hear while they’re in front of her. I wouldn’t trust anything she says at this point.

Why are they doing 7 revidions to the county wide rezoning maps, based on who complains the most on the previous map?

More like who has the biggest tantrum. Some of these grown adults should be ashamed of themselves.

I’m at the point where I am disgusted with this entire process. They left way too much time for community input… too many cooks in the kitchen and people want opposite things. Someone will be mad no matter what. And the way they’ve gone about it just ensures the pushiest people get their way. They could not have screwed this all up more even if they tried.

Poor baby, you didn’t get to ruin more kids’ lives. I’m so sorry that they provided some time for constituents to be heard.

You’re disgusting.

Oh shut up idiot. You have no idea who you're talking to. We are caught up in one of the biggest messes with this. At some point it gets exhausting dealing with this months-long drawn out process with changes going back and forth and drama queens throwing tantrums and calling it "advocacy". Just tell me where my kids are going to school so we can look at the bright side and adjust. No one's lives are being ruined. You are a terrible example for your children using that language. They are going to crumble when faced with real setbacks in adulthood.

Well, as you pointed out in your prior post, someone is going to be mad no matter what. Glad it was you, because I’m sure you were thinking you were going to get your way at the expense of moving others’ kids. Sometimes karma is a b.

In the meantime, as your tone deaf and logically inconsistent post argues, you seem to think this will have no impact on mental health, so, as we tell our 3-year old, stop whining. You think kids won’t be impacted, then you have nothing to complain about.

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Anonymous wrote:The split exists at so many schools. Why is one school prioritized over others? They told us it was because having less than 25% split was a problem. Wolftrap had 60:40. Marshall road splits between Oakton and Madison, Thoreau is a 3 way split with 5%going to Marshall. What is wrong with these people in charge. Leave the original boundaries and switch only where the a need for relief. This is not a comprehensive boundary review as it is only catering to the vocal people.

Kilmer is the most overcrowded MS in the county and you ignored this.

The Scenario 4 proposal to move the rest of Wolftrap to Madison and all to Thoreau wasn’t born of some desire to cater to Wolftrap families. It started with the need to bring down the enrollment at Kilmer with the elimination of the split feeder and making use of the hundreds of extra seats at Madison following its expansion a bonus.

No one ignored this. The county can not support true pyramids as the size and number of schools will not support it. Sending Madison students to Thoreau would have been enough to help Kilmer. Then there was also the relief to Kilmer from the Longfellow middle school switch that was an option. The need to have people in the same middle school and high school has left schools over 100% and others in the 80’s.

Kilmer will have even more relief next year with adding AAP to Thoreau.

The AAP change is not happening next year. It might not happen until the next 5year review. First Reid has to present a plan, then the school board has to vote on it, and then they need to figure out how to phase it in through staffing and potential boundary adjustments.

This is NOT complicated since there is a comprehensive boundary review in progress. AAP boundaries change and the process targets the potential number of transfers out /back in from a base school. If its an expanded POS-program of studies - for all AAP at the base middle school, it's scheduling, staff licensed to teach a course etc. This is not launching a space shuttle. Our kids went to 2 new ones.

Cooper process outline that could be used for Stone, Liberty, Thoreau. https://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/943T7Z75C1EB/$file/AAP%20Level%20IV%20Center%20Proposal%20for%20Cooper%20MS.pdf

Cool, but they haven’t even voted to proceed with AAP at every middle school, so they can’t implement it yet. When I asked my school board rep, they said it would be years down the line. My impression is that they’ll wait until the next comprehensive review to implement it.

FCPS should first add AAP to the pyramids like Lewis/Key that have hundreds of their highest performing students transferring to other schools next year.

FCPS csn stand up an AAP middle school program in a month or two, and have it ready by Fall 2026.

That is what the did with the Irving program. It was literally 1-2 months from concept to registering students.

If they focus on just the 1-2 schools with the biggest transfer deficit, FCPS can have those middle school programs ready to register students in January 2026 and launched in fall 2026.

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Anonymous wrote:Dr Reid said they are close to getting it right and the comments and meetings should be less. But there are 7500 commdnts days ago on the tool. Now I know I won’t be heard again

How can you see how many comments there are on the tool?

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Anonymous wrote:The split exists at so many schools. Why is one school prioritized over others? They told us it was because having less than 25% split was a problem. Wolftrap had 60:40. Marshall road splits between Oakton and Madison, Thoreau is a 3 way split with 5%going to Marshall. What is wrong with these people in charge. Leave the original boundaries and switch only where the a need for relief. This is not a comprehensive boundary review as it is only catering to the vocal people.

Kilmer is the most overcrowded MS in the county and you ignored this.

The Scenario 4 proposal to move the rest of Wolftrap to Madison and all to Thoreau wasn’t born of some desire to cater to Wolftrap families. It started with the need to bring down the enrollment at Kilmer with the elimination of the split feeder and making use of the hundreds of extra seats at Madison following its expansion a bonus.

No one ignored this. The county can not support true pyramids as the size and number of schools will not support it. Sending Madison students to Thoreau would have been enough to help Kilmer. Then there was also the relief to Kilmer from the Longfellow middle school switch that was an option. The need to have people in the same middle school and high school has left schools over 100% and others in the 80’s.

Kilmer will have even more relief next year with adding AAP to Thoreau.

The AAP change is not happening next year. It might not happen until the next 5year review. First Reid has to present a plan, then the school board has to vote on it, and then they need to figure out how to phase it in through staffing and potential boundary adjustments.

This is NOT complicated since there is a comprehensive boundary review in progress. AAP boundaries change and the process targets the potential number of transfers out /back in from a base school. If its an expanded POS-program of studies - for all AAP at the base middle school, it's scheduling, staff licensed to teach a course etc. This is not launching a space shuttle. Our kids went to 2 new ones.

Cooper process outline that could be used for Stone, Liberty, Thoreau. https://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/943T7Z75C1EB/$file/AAP%20Level%20IV%20Center%20Proposal%20for%20Cooper%20MS.pdf

Cool, but they haven’t even voted to proceed with AAP at every middle school, so they can’t implement it yet. When I asked my school board rep, they said it would be years down the line. My impression is that they’ll wait until the next comprehensive review to implement it.

FCPS should first add AAP to the pyramids like Lewis/Key that have hundreds of their highest performing students transferring to other schools next year.

FCPS csn stand up an AAP middle school program in a month or two, and have it ready by Fall 2026.

That is what the did with the Irving program. It was literally 1-2 months from concept to registering students.

If they focus on just the 1-2 schools with the biggest transfer deficit, FCPS can have those middle school programs ready to register students in January 2026 and launched in fall 2026.