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Anonymous wrote:The "cop a look phrase" never came from Blake. This was something Wayfarer put in that timeline document early on -- it is their characterization of how Lively later described the incident when she discussed it with Heath and Baldoni. They claim she said she knew he wasn't trying to "cop a look." But Blake never testified to saying that. She has consistently said that she told him not to come in and then when he insisted, asked him to look at the wall, and then he looked at her anyway.

My understanding of that quote was she supposedly said it a few days later when he was trying to justify what he did. So like "I wasn't trying to cop a look!!!" "Yeah, yeah, I know you weren't trying to cop a look."

I don't know if she testified whether she said it, but I could understand if she did, to diffuse the situation (preferably not). I think they tended to put a lot of pressure on the women to forgive them immediately or minimize what they did. Like all of the "it's ok because my wife is here" and "Justin told me to show you the video!" stuff.

Contemporaneous statements are always more meaningful than “new” recollections when one is trying to manufacture a lawsuit.

Anonymous wrote:The "cop a look phrase" never came from Blake. This was something Wayfarer put in that timeline document early on -- it is their characterization of how Lively later described the incident when she discussed it with Heath and Baldoni. They claim she said she knew he wasn't trying to "cop a look." But Blake never testified to saying that. She has consistently said that she told him not to come in and then when he insisted, asked him to look at the wall, and then he looked at her anyway.

They specifically brought up that quote at oral argument so they have something more than recollection. They probably recorded the conversation where she said it. Jamie Heath recorded pretty much everything.

Anonymous wrote:The "cop a look phrase" never came from Blake. This was something Wayfarer put in that timeline document early on -- it is their characterization of how Lively later described the incident when she discussed it with Heath and Baldoni. They claim she said she knew he wasn't trying to "cop a look." But Blake never testified to saying that. She has consistently said that she told him not to come in and then when he insisted, asked him to look at the wall, and then he looked at her anyway.

My understanding of that quote was she supposedly said it a few days later when he was trying to justify what he did. So like "I wasn't trying to cop a look!!!" "Yeah, yeah, I know you weren't trying to cop a look."

I don't know if she testified whether she said it, but I could understand if she did, to diffuse the situation (preferably not). I think they tended to put a lot of pressure on the women to forgive them immediately or minimize what they did. Like all of the "it's ok because my wife is here" and "Justin told me to show you the video!" stuff.

Not going to quote because it's long, but thank you to the person who just posted lengthy quote from the deposition. I'm the person who posted it sounded like a nothingburger until I actually read the depos. This is exactly what I mean. In context, it's much worse than what was originally reported, when you read the depos and don't rely on nuggets posted on reddit.

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Anonymous wrote:Blake said in her deposition that she said he could come in. Contradicting the other two women.

No.

Blake concurred with the other women that when Heath knocked on the door, all three of them told him not to come in, and that he came in anyway.

The makeup artist testified that after he came in, there was a conversation between Lively and Heath in which Heath insisted on staying and Lively eventually gave in, but that she (the MUA) did not remember the exact details of this conversation because she and the other MUA were focused on trying to get the work on Lively done quickly and doing their best to try and cover her up (though all that was available was a small towel on the counter that they used for clean up -- Lively's costume had been handed out the door to wardrobe when she came in).

Lively testified to the details of the conversation that the MUA was not focused on. She said that Heath had insisted the conversation happen at that time due to Lively's turnaround time (the union-dictated amount of time Lively needed to be off set between shooting days). Lively says she relented, but on the condition that Heath agreed to turn away from her during the conversation.

Lively, the MUA, and Heath all testified that Heath later was looking directly at Lively.

There are no contradictions in the accounts between Lively and the MUA. Heath claims that the women said "come in" when he knocked, but all the women testified that they said "no, no, no" and not to come in.

Lively and the MUA testified that after the incident, they took to locking the door to the make up trailer if anyone was in a state of undress, whenever possible.

The MUA testified that the incident was upsetting and very unusual, and that the habit of locking the trailer door was initiated by the make up team due to what felt like a serious violation.

Lively also testified that Heath “wasn’t trying to cop a look” so none of what you wrote above matters, although I’m sure most of what you wrote is entirely inaccurate, it always is.

Exactly. The accounts are all over the place but the one that matters is Blake’s because she’s the one who is claiming SH. SH has to be subjectively offensive so the fact that Blake in her deposition said she told him he could come in and the fact that she later said I know you weren’t trying to cop a look both undermine this claim as SH. Blake is not a child. If she was going to let Heath in, she could’ve put on a robe or said call me. So many other options. But in her deposition she said he said we need to chat before the other meeting or we have to postpone it and she said fine come in b/c she didn’t want to postpone. Blake has to take some accountability.

What matters more is whether she is telling a consistent story and what that story is. This was a nothing burger in her original complaint that she is now trying to use because all of her other allegations have fallen apart.

This was a major component of her original complaint. It was not a "nothing burger" in the complaint.

The "cop a look phrase" never came from Blake. This was something Wayfarer put in that timeline document early on -- it is their characterization of how Lively later described the incident when she discussed it with Heath and Baldoni. They claim she said she knew he wasn't trying to "cop a look." But Blake never testified to saying that. She has consistently said that she told him not to come in and then when he insisted, asked him to look at the wall, and then he looked at her anyway.

Blake's deposition:

P. 123: "I recall Jamey Heath walking in or trying to walk in and me telling him not to come in, and him insisting on coming in anyway or the meeting would be canceled."

P. 124:
Q Did -- did you tell Jamey Heath that that made you feel uncomfortable?
A I did.
Q What did you say to him?
A I recounted what had happened, and I told him that that wasn't okay. And he said -- yeah, I told him, you know, that I had told him to turn around, and it's not okay to insist on that anyway and that he could never do that again. And then I told him to turn around and that he was looking right at me. And he expressed that he liked to make eye contact with people. He had a habit of making eye contact with people when speaking with them, so that's why that happened.

And here I'm just grabbing relevant quotes because there's a lot of back and forth about Lively's security person and where they were and which one it was:

P. 125: "I don't know if it was unlocked at that point. He attempted to come in and we stopped him from coming in."

Here, Lively is explaining that the meeting was meant to take place in her trailer, but that Heath came to the hair and makeup trailer instead, where she was having work done:

P. 126: "We were meant to have a production meeting that night, and I -- he came to my trailer as I was -- we were going to have a production meeting in my trailer. And he came to the hair and makeup trailer as I was getting my body makeup removed and my wig off and -- so that I could wrap out hair and makeup and then I could then go into the -- my own trailer and I have a meeting with them."

P. 127: "He unexpectedly came to my trailer, knocked on the door, said, "We've got to talk."
I said, "We can't talk right now. I'll be there in a few minutes. I'm getting done as fast as I can so we can have this meeting."
He said, "Oh, no, we've got to talk now" --"

" I said, "I'll meet you in there in a minute. I'm getting -- I'm undressed. I'm getting ready for the meeting. I'll be there in just a minute."
And he said, "If we don't meet now, we can't do that meeting."
And that meeting was very important to me because it was to discuss other behavior I had experienced earlier that day that was concerning to me.
So I said, "Okay, fine, you can come in."
And he came in and I said, "Okay, you can come in, but please don't look. Can you turn around?"
So he turned around and he faced the wall."

P. 128: "And I was in front of the hair and makeup mirror as my team was working -- they call it double-teaming when they're both working at the same time to either get you ready or disassemble you.
And I was helping as well so that we could work quickly. And Jamey said that the meeting had to happen on my time, the meeting we were about to have; that it -- because of my turnaround, which is the time -- from the time that I am done with work until the time I start again, my turnaround was 12 hours.
And he said, "This meeting has to be on your clock. We don't have time for this."
And I said, "This isn't a personal meeting. This is a production meeting to discuss how to make the set better and smoother."
And he was arguing for it to be I on my personal time. And I said, "My personal time is important to me because I have a newborn baby. When I go home I prepare for the next day. I feed mybaby. I workout. I have a lot of responsibilities. I really need my time, and this is not a personal meeting; it's a production meeting.""

P. 129-131:

A (con't): And as I'm having this negotiation with him, I turn to him and he's staring straight at me. He's no longer facing the wall. He's staring straight at me.
And I said, "Jamey, what are you doing? You said you would turn around."
"Oh, oh, sorry. I like to make eye contact with people when I talk to them."
And I said, "You need to leave."
And so he left the trailer. And I finished -- I finished getting ready. I was incredibly shaken. My memory is my hair and makeup -- the women who did my hair and makeup were shaken as well.
And then I finished doing my work and I went in and I took the meeting.
Q When you said he was looking at you, was he looking in your eyes or somewhere else?
A Well, when I turned, he was fully facing me and I was topless. So I don't know all of the contours of my body that his eyes were on.
Q Okay. And when you were topless, did you have body makeup on?
A Yes.
Q And as you sit here today, you don't remember where on your body or your eyes that he was looking at that time; is that correct?
ATTORNEY HUDSON: Objection.
A I remember turning around and he was
facing me, topless, when I said, "The only can come in is if you turn around and face wall."
And he was faced the exact opposite direction, facing me.
way you that
Q Right. I'm just trying to find out, like, where his eyes were at the time that you turned around.
Were his eyes at your eyes looking at you?
ATTORNEY HUDSON: Objection.
A Where his eyes were, I remember feeling
like he was looking at my body. So that's my memory.
Q Okay. And when you say you remember feeling like he was looking at your body, you don't have a recollection that he actually was looking at your body, but it felt like that; is that correct?
A Yeah, I mean, the guy was -- the only way he could come in the trailer, which I wasn't comfortable with in the first place, is if he was facing the wall. Then I turn around and he's facing me, topless.

Here is the depo: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.1233.140.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:Blake said in her deposition that she said he could come in. Contradicting the other two women.

No.

Blake concurred with the other women that when Heath knocked on the door, all three of them told him not to come in, and that he came in anyway.

The makeup artist testified that after he came in, there was a conversation between Lively and Heath in which Heath insisted on staying and Lively eventually gave in, but that she (the MUA) did not remember the exact details of this conversation because she and the other MUA were focused on trying to get the work on Lively done quickly and doing their best to try and cover her up (though all that was available was a small towel on the counter that they used for clean up -- Lively's costume had been handed out the door to wardrobe when she came in).

Lively testified to the details of the conversation that the MUA was not focused on. She said that Heath had insisted the conversation happen at that time due to Lively's turnaround time (the union-dictated amount of time Lively needed to be off set between shooting days). Lively says she relented, but on the condition that Heath agreed to turn away from her during the conversation.

Lively, the MUA, and Heath all testified that Heath later was looking directly at Lively.

There are no contradictions in the accounts between Lively and the MUA. Heath claims that the women said "come in" when he knocked, but all the women testified that they said "no, no, no" and not to come in.

Lively and the MUA testified that after the incident, they took to locking the door to the make up trailer if anyone was in a state of undress, whenever possible.

The MUA testified that the incident was upsetting and very unusual, and that the habit of locking the trailer door was initiated by the make up team due to what felt like a serious violation.

Lively also testified that Heath “wasn’t trying to cop a look” so none of what you wrote above matters, although I’m sure most of what you wrote is entirely inaccurate, it always is.

Exactly. The accounts are all over the place but the one that matters is Blake’s because she’s the one who is claiming SH. SH has to be subjectively offensive so the fact that Blake in her deposition said she told him he could come in and the fact that she later said I know you weren’t trying to cop a look both undermine this claim as SH. Blake is not a child. If she was going to let Heath in, she could’ve put on a robe or said call me. So many other options. But in her deposition she said he said we need to chat before the other meeting or we have to postpone it and she said fine come in b/c she didn’t want to postpone. Blake has to take some accountability.

What matters more is whether she is telling a consistent story and what that story is. This was a nothing burger in her original complaint that she is now trying to use because all of her other allegations have fallen apart.

Please read Blake’s deposition
She says you can come in but don’t look so he comes in

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Anonymous wrote:Blake said in her deposition that she said he could come in. Contradicting the other two women.

No.

Blake concurred with the other women that when Heath knocked on the door, all three of them told him not to come in, and that he came in anyway.

The makeup artist testified that after he came in, there was a conversation between Lively and Heath in which Heath insisted on staying and Lively eventually gave in, but that she (the MUA) did not remember the exact details of this conversation because she and the other MUA were focused on trying to get the work on Lively done quickly and doing their best to try and cover her up (though all that was available was a small towel on the counter that they used for clean up -- Lively's costume had been handed out the door to wardrobe when she came in).

Lively testified to the details of the conversation that the MUA was not focused on. She said that Heath had insisted the conversation happen at that time due to Lively's turnaround time (the union-dictated amount of time Lively needed to be off set between shooting days). Lively says she relented, but on the condition that Heath agreed to turn away from her during the conversation.

Lively, the MUA, and Heath all testified that Heath later was looking directly at Lively.

There are no contradictions in the accounts between Lively and the MUA. Heath claims that the women said "come in" when he knocked, but all the women testified that they said "no, no, no" and not to come in.

Lively and the MUA testified that after the incident, they took to locking the door to the make up trailer if anyone was in a state of undress, whenever possible.

The MUA testified that the incident was upsetting and very unusual, and that the habit of locking the trailer door was initiated by the make up team due to what felt like a serious violation.

Lively also testified that Heath “wasn’t trying to cop a look” so none of what you wrote above matters, although I’m sure most of what you wrote is entirely inaccurate, it always is.

Agree the above makes no sense. If Heath burst in her trailer when she was undressed, and they tried to get him to leave and he wouldn’t - don’t you think that have been one of the first things we saw in the New York Times article and Blake’s complaint? Instead, in December 2024 she said that she asked him not to look and he apologized and she said that’s OK. I know you weren’t trying to cop a look.

It makes no sense she would downplay that one incident, which everyone would agree is egregious, but lied about everything else.

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Anonymous wrote:Blake said in her deposition that she said he could come in. Contradicting the other two women.

No.

Blake concurred with the other women that when Heath knocked on the door, all three of them told him not to come in, and that he came in anyway.

The makeup artist testified that after he came in, there was a conversation between Lively and Heath in which Heath insisted on staying and Lively eventually gave in, but that she (the MUA) did not remember the exact details of this conversation because she and the other MUA were focused on trying to get the work on Lively done quickly and doing their best to try and cover her up (though all that was available was a small towel on the counter that they used for clean up -- Lively's costume had been handed out the door to wardrobe when she came in).

Lively testified to the details of the conversation that the MUA was not focused on. She said that Heath had insisted the conversation happen at that time due to Lively's turnaround time (the union-dictated amount of time Lively needed to be off set between shooting days). Lively says she relented, but on the condition that Heath agreed to turn away from her during the conversation.

Lively, the MUA, and Heath all testified that Heath later was looking directly at Lively.

There are no contradictions in the accounts between Lively and the MUA. Heath claims that the women said "come in" when he knocked, but all the women testified that they said "no, no, no" and not to come in.

Lively and the MUA testified that after the incident, they took to locking the door to the make up trailer if anyone was in a state of undress, whenever possible.

The MUA testified that the incident was upsetting and very unusual, and that the habit of locking the trailer door was initiated by the make up team due to what felt like a serious violation.

Lively also testified that Heath “wasn’t trying to cop a look” so none of what you wrote above matters, although I’m sure most of what you wrote is entirely inaccurate, it always is.

Exactly. The accounts are all over the place but the one that matters is Blake’s because she’s the one who is claiming SH. SH has to be subjectively offensive so the fact that Blake in her deposition said she told him he could come in and the fact that she later said I know you weren’t trying to cop a look both undermine this claim as SH. Blake is not a child. If she was going to let Heath in, she could’ve put on a robe or said call me. So many other options. But in her deposition she said he said we need to chat before the other meeting or we have to postpone it and she said fine come in b/c she didn’t want to postpone. Blake has to take some accountability.

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Anonymous wrote:Blake said in her deposition that she said he could come in. Contradicting the other two women.

No.

Blake concurred with the other women that when Heath knocked on the door, all three of them told him not to come in, and that he came in anyway.

The makeup artist testified that after he came in, there was a conversation between Lively and Heath in which Heath insisted on staying and Lively eventually gave in, but that she (the MUA) did not remember the exact details of this conversation because she and the other MUA were focused on trying to get the work on Lively done quickly and doing their best to try and cover her up (though all that was available was a small towel on the counter that they used for clean up -- Lively's costume had been handed out the door to wardrobe when she came in).

Lively testified to the details of the conversation that the MUA was not focused on. She said that Heath had insisted the conversation happen at that time due to Lively's turnaround time (the union-dictated amount of time Lively needed to be off set between shooting days). Lively says she relented, but on the condition that Heath agreed to turn away from her during the conversation.

Lively, the MUA, and Heath all testified that Heath later was looking directly at Lively.

There are no contradictions in the accounts between Lively and the MUA. Heath claims that the women said "come in" when he knocked, but all the women testified that they said "no, no, no" and not to come in.

Lively and the MUA testified that after the incident, they took to locking the door to the make up trailer if anyone was in a state of undress, whenever possible.

The MUA testified that the incident was upsetting and very unusual, and that the habit of locking the trailer door was initiated by the make up team due to what felt like a serious violation.

Lively also testified that Heath “wasn’t trying to cop a look” so none of what you wrote above matters, although I’m sure most of what you wrote is entirely inaccurate, it always is.

Anonymous wrote:Blake said in her deposition that she said he could come in. Contradicting the other two women.

No.

Blake concurred with the other women that when Heath knocked on the door, all three of them told him not to come in, and that he came in anyway.

The makeup artist testified that after he came in, there was a conversation between Lively and Heath in which Heath insisted on staying and Lively eventually gave in, but that she (the MUA) did not remember the exact details of this conversation because she and the other MUA were focused on trying to get the work on Lively done quickly and doing their best to try and cover her up (though all that was available was a small towel on the counter that they used for clean up -- Lively's costume had been handed out the door to wardrobe when she came in).

Lively testified to the details of the conversation that the MUA was not focused on. She said that Heath had insisted the conversation happen at that time due to Lively's turnaround time (the union-dictated amount of time Lively needed to be off set between shooting days). Lively says she relented, but on the condition that Heath agreed to turn away from her during the conversation.

Lively, the MUA, and Heath all testified that Heath later was looking directly at Lively.

There are no contradictions in the accounts between Lively and the MUA. Heath claims that the women said "come in" when he knocked, but all the women testified that they said "no, no, no" and not to come in.

Lively and the MUA testified that after the incident, they took to locking the door to the make up trailer if anyone was in a state of undress, whenever possible.

The MUA testified that the incident was upsetting and very unusual, and that the habit of locking the trailer door was initiated by the make up team due to what felt like a serious violation.

Blake said in her deposition that she said he could come in. Contradicting the other two women.

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\You know less than you think you do.

I agree and it goes both ways. Even I (generally considered pro-Lively for this forum) kind of believed Heath about the walking into her dressing room thing being more of a nothingburger where she was breastfeeding but basically covered and he briefly turned around to look at her, and I was surprised how bad it was in Baker and Carrol's description. Their depos revealed for the first time that there was a chorus of voices telling him not to enter, that she was topless and wearing just a thong while breastfeeding (with one breast uncovered), and that her body was fully visible to him in the mirror the whole time. If you are going into the unsealing looking only for things that make Lively look bad you'll find them, but there was lots that made Wayfarer look bad too.

Have you not seen other depositions of disputing this? The narrative of what happened here is totally all over the place and there is no consensus. I get Ange and Alex confused but one of them said that it was a planned meeting - Blake invited Heath invited him to her trailer - he came in but she told him not to look. that undermines the makeup artist who said he knocked and they were screaming don’t come in don’t come in and he came in. Which doesn’t sound right anyway cause why would he knock if he was just going to burst in?

The whole thing is really stupid.

Blake also said that Heath wasn’t trying to cop a look, that came up in oral argument. Blake bot likes to ignore all the newly unsealed evidence because it destroys Blake’s case. Even Blake now admits that she wasn’t wearing modest wear to make her look nude in the birthing scene, it was black, as WF has always contended. Everything she alleged in the dance scene has been debunked by two different videos. The birthing video was shown to men and women on set, it wasn’t targeted at Blake. Blake initiated the conversation about circumcision. I could go on and on . . .