Anonymous
04/03/2025 13:21
Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oregon Surf parents are worried that they will be moved to GA, as their boys are MLSN.
ECNL is squeezing clubs to make a decision.
Now we know why SC Surf made the move.
You mean GA+MLSN are doing the same thing to clubs that ECNL used to do? Forcing clubs to play in boys ECNL if they wanted girls ECNL?
ECNL started the potentially illegal practice of tieing different products. GA+MLSN are just playing the game ECNL introduced. Before MLSN+GA announced a partnership earlier this year they were completely separate and didn't care if clubs had one or the other.
If ECNL does this, Bethesda, FC Delco, and PDA will need to make the move. I'm not sure ECNL has the guts to do this.
ECNL has definitely done this.
ECNL even took things a step further and taken girls ECNL away from clubs that don't do boys ECNL.
ECNL has also taken girls ECNL away if clubs play boys ECNL as their 2nd boys team behind MLSN.
100% correct. I wish the ECNL hats knew more about ECNLs history.
Can you inform us of ECNL’s history? I know they survived the girls DA.
How about we focus on the future. If your daughter is 2012 or younger you may want to start looking for a GA club.
This 100%. ECNL is like the titanic, and they just hit an iceberg with the MLSN + GA partnership.. the first few lifeboats just entered the water, with more to come.
When clubs started switching to DA in groups in 2017 is when DA really started to pickup steam. If you see this happening with GA ECNL is done.
We can expect a few more strong one off GA adds this cycle, next year you will have groups of teams switching to GA from what I'm hearing.
sure. you aren't hearing nothing from clubs cause they all just happen to let you know
Sounds like he heard something
Bada BOOM!!!!!
Rangers FC on cue. Another club add in the 100 range.
Not an add, just promoted from DPL
They had ECNLR for the boys.
Another club sacrificing girls for MLSN
confused. did their boys move to MLSnext?
Anonymous
04/03/2025 13:20
Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oregon Surf parents are worried that they will be moved to GA, as their boys are MLSN.
ECNL is squeezing clubs to make a decision.
Now we know why SC Surf made the move.
You mean GA+MLSN are doing the same thing to clubs that ECNL used to do? Forcing clubs to play in boys ECNL if they wanted girls ECNL?
ECNL started the potentially illegal practice of tieing different products. GA+MLSN are just playing the game ECNL introduced. Before MLSN+GA announced a partnership earlier this year they were completely separate and didn't care if clubs had one or the other.
If ECNL does this, Bethesda, FC Delco, and PDA will need to make the move. I'm not sure ECNL has the guts to do this.
ECNL has definitely done this.
ECNL even took things a step further and taken girls ECNL away from clubs that don't do boys ECNL.
ECNL has also taken girls ECNL away if clubs play boys ECNL as their 2nd boys team behind MLSN.
100% correct. I wish the ECNL hats knew more about ECNLs history.
Can you inform us of ECNL’s history? I know they survived the girls DA.
How about we focus on the future. If your daughter is 2012 or younger you may want to start looking for a GA club.
This 100%. ECNL is like the titanic, and they just hit an iceberg with the MLSN + GA partnership.. the first few lifeboats just entered the water, with more to come.
When clubs started switching to DA in groups in 2017 is when DA really started to pickup steam. If you see this happening with GA ECNL is done.
We can expect a few more strong one off GA adds this cycle, next year you will have groups of teams switching to GA from what I'm hearing.
sure. you aren't hearing nothing from clubs cause they all just happen to let you know
Sounds like he heard something
Bada BOOM!!!!!
Rangers FC on cue. Another club add in the 100 range.
Not an add, just promoted from DPL
100%. funny how these people (the poster you responded to) are throwing darts at the wall about BOOMS! hoping to be right thinking they are in the know
Anonymous
04/03/2025 13:16
Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oregon Surf parents are worried that they will be moved to GA, as their boys are MLSN.
ECNL is squeezing clubs to make a decision.
Now we know why SC Surf made the move.
You mean GA+MLSN are doing the same thing to clubs that ECNL used to do? Forcing clubs to play in boys ECNL if they wanted girls ECNL?
ECNL started the potentially illegal practice of tieing different products. GA+MLSN are just playing the game ECNL introduced. Before MLSN+GA announced a partnership earlier this year they were completely separate and didn't care if clubs had one or the other.
If ECNL does this, Bethesda, FC Delco, and PDA will need to make the move. I'm not sure ECNL has the guts to do this.
ECNL has definitely done this.
ECNL even took things a step further and taken girls ECNL away from clubs that don't do boys ECNL.
ECNL has also taken girls ECNL away if clubs play boys ECNL as their 2nd boys team behind MLSN.
100% correct. I wish the ECNL hats knew more about ECNLs history.
Can you inform us of ECNL’s history? I know they survived the girls DA.
How about we focus on the future. If your daughter is 2012 or younger you may want to start looking for a GA club.
This 100%. ECNL is like the titanic, and they just hit an iceberg with the MLSN + GA partnership.. the first few lifeboats just entered the water, with more to come.
When clubs started switching to DA in groups in 2017 is when DA really started to pickup steam. If you see this happening with GA ECNL is done.
We can expect a few more strong one off GA adds this cycle, next year you will have groups of teams switching to GA from what I'm hearing.
sure. you aren't hearing nothing from clubs cause they all just happen to let you know
Sounds like he heard something
Bada BOOM!!!!!
Rangers FC on cue. Another club add in the 100 range.
Not an add, just promoted from DPL
They had ECNLR for the boys.
Another club sacrificing girls for MLSN
Anonymous
04/03/2025 13:12
Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oregon Surf parents are worried that they will be moved to GA, as their boys are MLSN.
ECNL is squeezing clubs to make a decision.
Now we know why SC Surf made the move.
You mean GA+MLSN are doing the same thing to clubs that ECNL used to do? Forcing clubs to play in boys ECNL if they wanted girls ECNL?
ECNL started the potentially illegal practice of tieing different products. GA+MLSN are just playing the game ECNL introduced. Before MLSN+GA announced a partnership earlier this year they were completely separate and didn't care if clubs had one or the other.
If ECNL does this, Bethesda, FC Delco, and PDA will need to make the move. I'm not sure ECNL has the guts to do this.
ECNL has definitely done this.
ECNL even took things a step further and taken girls ECNL away from clubs that don't do boys ECNL.
ECNL has also taken girls ECNL away if clubs play boys ECNL as their 2nd boys team behind MLSN.
100% correct. I wish the ECNL hats knew more about ECNLs history.
Can you inform us of ECNL’s history? I know they survived the girls DA.
How about we focus on the future. If your daughter is 2012 or younger you may want to start looking for a GA club.
This 100%. ECNL is like the titanic, and they just hit an iceberg with the MLSN + GA partnership.. the first few lifeboats just entered the water, with more to come.
When clubs started switching to DA in groups in 2017 is when DA really started to pickup steam. If you see this happening with GA ECNL is done.
We can expect a few more strong one off GA adds this cycle, next year you will have groups of teams switching to GA from what I'm hearing.
sure. you aren't hearing nothing from clubs cause they all just happen to let you know
Sounds like he heard something
Bada BOOM!!!!!
Rangers FC on cue. Another club add in the 100 range.
Not an add, just promoted from DPL
Anonymous
04/03/2025 13:08
Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oregon Surf parents are worried that they will be moved to GA, as their boys are MLSN.
ECNL is squeezing clubs to make a decision.
Now we know why SC Surf made the move.
You mean GA+MLSN are doing the same thing to clubs that ECNL used to do? Forcing clubs to play in boys ECNL if they wanted girls ECNL?
ECNL started the potentially illegal practice of tieing different products. GA+MLSN are just playing the game ECNL introduced. Before MLSN+GA announced a partnership earlier this year they were completely separate and didn't care if clubs had one or the other.
If ECNL does this, Bethesda, FC Delco, and PDA will need to make the move. I'm not sure ECNL has the guts to do this.
ECNL has definitely done this.
ECNL even took things a step further and taken girls ECNL away from clubs that don't do boys ECNL.
ECNL has also taken girls ECNL away if clubs play boys ECNL as their 2nd boys team behind MLSN.
100% correct. I wish the ECNL hats knew more about ECNLs history.
Can you inform us of ECNL’s history? I know they survived the girls DA.
How about we focus on the future. If your daughter is 2012 or younger you may want to start looking for a GA club.
This 100%. ECNL is like the titanic, and they just hit an iceberg with the MLSN + GA partnership.. the first few lifeboats just entered the water, with more to come.
When clubs started switching to DA in groups in 2017 is when DA really started to pickup steam. If you see this happening with GA ECNL is done.
We can expect a few more strong one off GA adds this cycle, next year you will have groups of teams switching to GA from what I'm hearing.
sure. you aren't hearing nothing from clubs cause they all just happen to let you know
Sounds like he heard something
Bada BOOM!!!!!
Rangers FC on cue. Another club add in the 100 range.
Anonymous
04/03/2025 13:07
Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)
Great pick up for GA. Have done well in DPL
Anonymous
04/03/2025 13:01
Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)
Rangers FC to GA
girls #114
boys #144
club #105
girls #114
boys #144
club #105
Anonymous
04/03/2025 12:30
Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oregon Surf parents are worried that they will be moved to GA, as their boys are MLSN.
ECNL is squeezing clubs to make a decision.
Now we know why SC Surf made the move.
You mean GA+MLSN are doing the same thing to clubs that ECNL used to do? Forcing clubs to play in boys ECNL if they wanted girls ECNL?
ECNL started the potentially illegal practice of tieing different products. GA+MLSN are just playing the game ECNL introduced. Before MLSN+GA announced a partnership earlier this year they were completely separate and didn't care if clubs had one or the other.
If ECNL does this, Bethesda, FC Delco, and PDA will need to make the move. I'm not sure ECNL has the guts to do this.
ECNL has definitely done this.
ECNL even took things a step further and taken girls ECNL away from clubs that don't do boys ECNL.
ECNL has also taken girls ECNL away if clubs play boys ECNL as their 2nd boys team behind MLSN.
100% correct. I wish the ECNL hats knew more about ECNLs history.
Can you inform us of ECNL’s history? I know they survived the girls DA.
How about we focus on the future. If your daughter is 2012 or younger you may want to start looking for a GA club.
This 100%. ECNL is like the titanic, and they just hit an iceberg with the MLSN + GA partnership.. the first few lifeboats just entered the water, with more to come.
When clubs started switching to DA in groups in 2017 is when DA really started to pickup steam. If you see this happening with GA ECNL is done.
We can expect a few more strong one off GA adds this cycle, next year you will have groups of teams switching to GA from what I'm hearing.
sure. you aren't hearing nothing from clubs cause they all just happen to let you know
Anonymous
04/03/2025 11:39
Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oregon Surf parents are worried that they will be moved to GA, as their boys are MLSN.
ECNL is squeezing clubs to make a decision.
Now we know why SC Surf made the move.
You mean GA+MLSN are doing the same thing to clubs that ECNL used to do? Forcing clubs to play in boys ECNL if they wanted girls ECNL?
ECNL started the potentially illegal practice of tieing different products. GA+MLSN are just playing the game ECNL introduced. Before MLSN+GA announced a partnership earlier this year they were completely separate and didn't care if clubs had one or the other.
If ECNL does this, Bethesda, FC Delco, and PDA will need to make the move. I'm not sure ECNL has the guts to do this.
ECNL has definitely done this.
ECNL even took things a step further and taken girls ECNL away from clubs that don't do boys ECNL.
ECNL has also taken girls ECNL away if clubs play boys ECNL as their 2nd boys team behind MLSN.
100% correct. I wish the ECNL hats knew more about ECNLs history.
Can you inform us of ECNL’s history? I know they survived the girls DA.
How about we focus on the future. If your daughter is 2012 or younger you may want to start looking for a GA club.
This 100%. ECNL is like the titanic, and they just hit an iceberg with the MLSN + GA partnership.. the first few lifeboats just entered the water, with more to come.
When clubs started switching to DA in groups in 2017 is when DA really started to pickup steam. If you see this happening with GA ECNL is done.
We can expect a few more strong one off GA adds this cycle, next year you will have groups of teams switching to GA from what I'm hearing.
Anonymous
04/03/2025 10:49
Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)
https://sports.yahoo.com/us-soccer-girls-youth-development-ecnl-000044659.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAESqRDwfiLdOb-4KjTZzgAuPObRaNN0AlgdAoa7fxLZcaEknZBUlftV2s1hg3wt1UOz3kzi_3zn-IfR5FaeNX8G1TWhZ9anCoPcKM5Ov4ieXRJhGjkyP7BfrnVBV_Lo-jIdbOmI54wN3yVyH7zxVnpX6ZLKk42jj6leDcpFNKp50
A good read for those who haven't seen it.
I'm really intrigued by MLSN establishing QOP to score their U13/14 teams. If GA does this in the future it will be a great thing.
A good read for those who haven't seen it.
I'm really intrigued by MLSN establishing QOP to score their U13/14 teams. If GA does this in the future it will be a great thing.
Anonymous
04/03/2025 10:48
Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oregon Surf parents are worried that they will be moved to GA, as their boys are MLSN.
ECNL is squeezing clubs to make a decision.
Now we know why SC Surf made the move.
You mean GA+MLSN are doing the same thing to clubs that ECNL used to do? Forcing clubs to play in boys ECNL if they wanted girls ECNL?
ECNL started the potentially illegal practice of tieing different products. GA+MLSN are just playing the game ECNL introduced. Before MLSN+GA announced a partnership earlier this year they were completely separate and didn't care if clubs had one or the other.
If ECNL does this, Bethesda, FC Delco, and PDA will need to make the move. I'm not sure ECNL has the guts to do this.
ECNL has definitely done this.
ECNL even took things a step further and taken girls ECNL away from clubs that don't do boys ECNL.
ECNL has also taken girls ECNL away if clubs play boys ECNL as their 2nd boys team behind MLSN.
100% correct. I wish the ECNL hats knew more about ECNLs history.
Can you inform us of ECNL’s history? I know they survived the girls DA.
Not as well as they would like to lead people to believe. Pre-GDA ECNL ruled the roost for D1s and upper tier D2s and D3s, then came GDA. Once GDA stepped in it ate a large chunk into ECNLs commits. For those old enough to remember ECNLs old site they used to have a complete run down of their college impact broken down by year, conference, and national playoffs and included end of season awards. Those numbers were in the 70-80% range up to and including the first year of GDA. Then the numbers started to drop year after year down to upper 50s to upper 60s. When GDA died, ECNL brought in what it thought were enough high level clubs to cause the new GA to die off, it didn't. ECNL then tried pulling in GA clubs year after year to keep GA at bay and regain its lions share of commits, didn't work as well as they hoped. Now, the reason for the GDA and now GA is all ECNLs fault. US Soccer tried to work with ECNL on expansion by having a single league structure but for whatever reason ECNL balked. When GDA was formed ECNLs response was to fight back with ECNL Boys which has, lets face it, never really lived up to even a tier 2 status. ECNL has used its leverage to force clubs to chose between GDA and ECNL and also forced clubs to keep or move boys teams into ECNL boys.
Some ECNL History
https://web.archive.org/web/20200615000000*/www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/
Original 40 Clubs - https://web.archive.org/web/20090821145937/http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/PageCustom.aspx?id=9&o=340781 - This is the oldest entry on Wayback
2016 College Impact Site - https://web.archive.org/web/20170711131817/http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/college-impact-new/college-impact-2016/
2017 College Impact Site - https://web.archive.org/web/20180728140436/http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/college-impact-2017/
2018 College Impact Site - https://web.archive.org/web/20190313093216/http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/college-impact-2018/
2019 College Impact Site - https://web.archive.org/web/20200809023437/http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/college-impact-2019/
2016 ECNL History - https://web.archive.org/web/20170711131732/http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/about-ecnl/history/
Anonymous
04/03/2025 10:40
Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We beat Elmbrook United at Jeff Cup
Sure you did...
2025 Jeff Cup Elmbrook United 2012
Concorde Fire 0 Elmbrook United 4
CSA 2 Elmbrook United 0
Arlington 2 Elmbrook United 2
I know the outcomes, your not part of CSA...probably CISC
Anonymous
04/03/2025 10:31
Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oregon Surf parents are worried that they will be moved to GA, as their boys are MLSN.
ECNL is squeezing clubs to make a decision.
Now we know why SC Surf made the move.
You mean GA+MLSN are doing the same thing to clubs that ECNL used to do? Forcing clubs to play in boys ECNL if they wanted girls ECNL?
ECNL started the potentially illegal practice of tieing different products. GA+MLSN are just playing the game ECNL introduced. Before MLSN+GA announced a partnership earlier this year they were completely separate and didn't care if clubs had one or the other.
If ECNL does this, Bethesda, FC Delco, and PDA will need to make the move. I'm not sure ECNL has the guts to do this.
ECNL has definitely done this.
ECNL even took things a step further and taken girls ECNL away from clubs that don't do boys ECNL.
ECNL has also taken girls ECNL away if clubs play boys ECNL as their 2nd boys team behind MLSN.
100% correct. I wish the ECNL hats knew more about ECNLs history.
Can you inform us of ECNL’s history? I know they survived the girls DA.
How about we focus on the future. If your daughter is 2012 or younger you may want to start looking for a GA club.
This 100%. ECNL is like the titanic, and they just hit an iceberg with the MLSN + GA partnership.. the first few lifeboats just entered the water, with more to come.
When clubs started switching to DA in groups in 2017 is when DA really started to pickup steam. If you see this happening with GA ECNL is done.
Anonymous
04/03/2025 10:23
Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oregon Surf parents are worried that they will be moved to GA, as their boys are MLSN.
ECNL is squeezing clubs to make a decision.
Now we know why SC Surf made the move.
You mean GA+MLSN are doing the same thing to clubs that ECNL used to do? Forcing clubs to play in boys ECNL if they wanted girls ECNL?
ECNL started the potentially illegal practice of tieing different products. GA+MLSN are just playing the game ECNL introduced. Before MLSN+GA announced a partnership earlier this year they were completely separate and didn't care if clubs had one or the other.
If ECNL does this, Bethesda, FC Delco, and PDA will need to make the move. I'm not sure ECNL has the guts to do this.
ECNL has definitely done this.
ECNL even took things a step further and taken girls ECNL away from clubs that don't do boys ECNL.
ECNL has also taken girls ECNL away if clubs play boys ECNL as their 2nd boys team behind MLSN.
100% correct. I wish the ECNL hats knew more about ECNLs history.
Can you inform us of ECNL’s history? I know they survived the girls DA.
How about we focus on the future. If your daughter is 2012 or younger you may want to start looking for a GA club.
This 100%. ECNL is like the titanic, and they just hit an iceberg with the MLSN + GA partnership.. the first few lifeboats just entered the water, with more to come.
Anonymous
04/03/2025 10:15
Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oregon Surf parents are worried that they will be moved to GA, as their boys are MLSN.
ECNL is squeezing clubs to make a decision.
Now we know why SC Surf made the move.
You mean GA+MLSN are doing the same thing to clubs that ECNL used to do? Forcing clubs to play in boys ECNL if they wanted girls ECNL?
ECNL started the potentially illegal practice of tieing different products. GA+MLSN are just playing the game ECNL introduced. Before MLSN+GA announced a partnership earlier this year they were completely separate and didn't care if clubs had one or the other.
If ECNL does this, Bethesda, FC Delco, and PDA will need to make the move. I'm not sure ECNL has the guts to do this.
ECNL has definitely done this.
ECNL even took things a step further and taken girls ECNL away from clubs that don't do boys ECNL.
ECNL has also taken girls ECNL away if clubs play boys ECNL as their 2nd boys team behind MLSN.
100% correct. I wish the ECNL hats knew more about ECNLs history.
Can you inform us of ECNL’s history? I know they survived the girls DA.
ECNL barely survived DA. In 2017 ECNL was begging clubs to join/stay in the league.
On the boys side MLS basically taking over boys DA and rebranding it MLSN + the Acadamies + contracted player pipeline is just something ECNL can't compete with.
On the girls side NWSL chose not to get involved when DA blew up. So a group of top youth clubs went back to ECNL because they knew it made $$$.
MLSN partnering with GA is happening because MLS wants to control the girls youth pathway the same way they do with boys and the powers that be dont want to buy out ECNL. NWSL can put its head in the sand with youth pathways. But there's several MLS owners and groups with money in NWSL who see the benefits.