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Anonymous wrote:Is it done? This is so awful. I don’t even live in VA anymore, but I am devastated. What the F is wrong with our country??

You don’t want to live in VA or the USA?

Not PP, but I thought Va was smarter than this. You learn something everyday.

Your opinion.

Well we have different definitions of smart

A majority of people in a state having different opinions does not make them less intelligent than you. I’m sure it easier for you to believe you are superior.

This. And yet, when called on it, they double down. Talk about sad.

If you don’t want us to think you’re dumb then stop pretending and just come out and tell us that “different opinion”.

Which is it?
You like status quo because you are doing ok. Screw everyone else.
You are ok with systemic racism. It doesn’t hurt you so it’s ok.
You don’t want to break the cycle of poverty.
You think people are struggling because of moral failings.
You think some races are inherently better than others.
You want to restrict elections to make it different for some people to vote.
You don’t like LGBTQ+.
You do want to ban abortions.
You want to force your religious beliefs on everyone else.

Could be more than one. Or all?

Check, check, check. Straight down the list of Dem talking points. There is one party that seeks to segregate people into their little boxes and one party who has talked about poverty but done actually done nothing about it and it ain't the Rs. As for your #1, see above smug elitist posts.

So share this “different opinion” that you have. What informed, rational opinion led you to vote for Youngkin?

Show us how you weren’t manipulated.

I don't have to explain myself to you, but if you want to know what drove a lot of people to vote for Younkin, reread this post as well as the smug little nitwits' posts above who think they are superior people to the "uneducated."

This should be easy for you to prove me wrong.

What is this “different opinion” of yours? This well-informed, rational opinion.

You will never get an explanation. Half of them don’t really understand why they voted that way, and the other half who do won’t say it allowed.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else have a wife in a really bad mood this morning?

That’s what you get for marrying a women’s studies major.

I’m annoyed this morning but I’m a nurse who worked throughout the pandemic. I also had to manage kids at home and deal with all the BS at work. Basically a bunch of mostly white well off suburban women have been melting down now for over 1.5 years and this was their way to get back at the people they felt were responsible.

I don’t think you want us to peak at the voting habits of nurses toots

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is the perfect illustration of the point being made on CNN last night that Dems need to adjust their approach and their attitude. The reality is that independents and suburban moderates are very off put by the Dems habit of talking down to and insulting anyone who agrees with some Republican points or disagrees with Democrat points.

Dems, look in the mirror because the moderate suburbans and independents you need to win find the current iteration of the party to be insufferable.

But the insults go both ways. Rs are constantly insulting Ds but apparently that’s ok with voters.

Dems have long been held to a higher standard. People expect Republicans to act like gutter trash.

The hypocrisy of this statement is just..chef’s kiss.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else have a wife in a really bad mood this morning?

That’s what you get for marrying a women’s studies major.

I’m annoyed this morning but I’m a nurse who worked throughout the pandemic. I also had to manage kids at home and deal with all the BS at work. Basically a bunch of mostly white well off suburban women have been melting down now for over 1.5 years and this was their way to get back at the people they felt were responsible.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is the perfect illustration of the point being made on CNN last night that Dems need to adjust their approach and their attitude. The reality is that independents and suburban moderates are very off put by the Dems habit of talking down to and insulting anyone who agrees with some Republican points or disagrees with Democrat points.

Dems, look in the mirror because the moderate suburbans and independents you need to win find the current iteration of the party to be insufferable.

But the insults go both ways. Rs are constantly insulting Ds but apparently that’s ok with voters.

Dems have long been held to a higher standard. People expect Republicans to act like gutter trash.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is the perfect illustration of the point being made on CNN last night that Dems need to adjust their approach and their attitude. The reality is that independents and suburban moderates are very off put by the Dems habit of talking down to and insulting anyone who agrees with some Republican points or disagrees with Democrat points.

Dems, look in the mirror because the moderate suburbans and independents you need to win find the current iteration of the party to be insufferable.

But the insults go both ways. Rs are constantly insulting Ds but apparently that’s ok with voters.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else have a wife in a really bad mood this morning?

That’s what you get for marrying a women’s studies major.

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IMO they shot themselves in the foot by closing school. What an impact they made on so many people day in and day out for a year. I certainly hope it is a case study for the future.

They made informed, reasonable decisions based on the info we had and resources available. You think we have staffing issues now? Imagine if you forced teachers in last fall before the vaccine and as numbers were skyrocketing.

Our schools (local, not state) didn’t just say F it and send kids back in.

Sorry that pisses you off so much that you had to vote for a Trump Republican.

I voted D like I always do but your attitude is exactly why the Rs won and I’ve been saying that.
I also remember that Northam allowed schools to open hybrid in August 2020 and Fairfax had some of the best corona numbers in the state - not the worst - such that we should have considered being more conservative than he allowed with school reopening. And I also didn’t forget that the Dept of Health approved of the hybrid plan as well.

So you’re pissed at FCPS?

I am just telling you where the people are so the Ds don’t miss the mark next time.

Most of the parents don't remember the nuance of what the governor approved vs. what happened. All they saw is that public schools weren't open for most of 2020-2021, while private schools did open full time.

I agree.

Agree too (Dem voter). This wasn’t the only issue, but one of the big ones. I fear my party is getting a set of alternative facts (like all the PPs set on arguing that Nova schools were opening just as early as the rest of the country??) Voting Youngkin may have been a stupid way to “punish” school boards, but it still was a strong motivation IMHO.

+1 the “CRT” stuff wasn’t important to NoVa voters (it was just a bone for the R base in the rest of the state), but the closures and the perception that the curriculum was being “dumbed down” by the Democrats in the state DoE WAS important here. All it takes is a few percentage points of people who usually vote D switching to the other side.

And no, NoVa schools didn’t open at the same time as other schools. Anyone with functioning eyes and access to social media could have seen that. The closures killed Democrats and people took out their frustrations on the first election they could.

The closures killed Dems because NOVA parents are lazy and entitled. They didn’t want their kids home all day because then they had to do some work. Teachers are day babysitters that everyone gets for free in their eyes.

Great messaging! Gee, wonder why we lost women voters?

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IMO they shot themselves in the foot by closing school. What an impact they made on so many people day in and day out for a year. I certainly hope it is a case study for the future.

They made informed, reasonable decisions based on the info we had and resources available. You think we have staffing issues now? Imagine if you forced teachers in last fall before the vaccine and as numbers were skyrocketing.

Our schools (local, not state) didn’t just say F it and send kids back in.

Sorry that pisses you off so much that you had to vote for a Trump Republican.

I voted D like I always do but your attitude is exactly why the Rs won and I’ve been saying that.
I also remember that Northam allowed schools to open hybrid in August 2020 and Fairfax had some of the best corona numbers in the state - not the worst - such that we should have considered being more conservative than he allowed with school reopening. And I also didn’t forget that the Dept of Health approved of the hybrid plan as well.

So you’re pissed at FCPS?

I am just telling you where the people are so the Ds don’t miss the mark next time.

Most of the parents don't remember the nuance of what the governor approved vs. what happened. All they saw is that public schools weren't open for most of 2020-2021, while private schools did open full time.

I agree.

Agree too (Dem voter). This wasn’t the only issue, but one of the big ones. I fear my party is getting a set of alternative facts (like all the PPs set on arguing that Nova schools were opening just as early as the rest of the country??) Voting Youngkin may have been a stupid way to “punish” school boards, but it still was a strong motivation IMHO.

Here you go. Facts.

Post about this from Feb 2020:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/105/951009.page
“Actually, based on the Burbio methodology, this says that *at most* ~40% of US student are in-person right now. Obviously, it's less than that since 100% of families are not choosing in-person.

https://about.burbio.com/methodology/
"• Burbio assigns a learning mode to a school district based on the most in-person option available to the general student population. Thus if a district offers both traditional and virtual options, the district is categorized as Traditional. " “

Anonymous wrote:Dc resident: Can we build a fence? We’ve got to contsin this shit…

Anonymous wrote:Keep counting. I'm convinced Terry is still in this to win it. Ds hold NJ!

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IMO they shot themselves in the foot by closing school. What an impact they made on so many people day in and day out for a year. I certainly hope it is a case study for the future.

They made informed, reasonable decisions based on the info we had and resources available. You think we have staffing issues now? Imagine if you forced teachers in last fall before the vaccine and as numbers were skyrocketing.

Our schools (local, not state) didn’t just say F it and send kids back in.

Sorry that pisses you off so much that you had to vote for a Trump Republican.

I voted D like I always do but your attitude is exactly why the Rs won and I’ve been saying that.
I also remember that Northam allowed schools to open hybrid in August 2020 and Fairfax had some of the best corona numbers in the state - not the worst - such that we should have considered being more conservative than he allowed with school reopening. And I also didn’t forget that the Dept of Health approved of the hybrid plan as well.

So you’re pissed at FCPS?

I am just telling you where the people are so the Ds don’t miss the mark next time.

Most of the parents don't remember the nuance of what the governor approved vs. what happened. All they saw is that public schools weren't open for most of 2020-2021, while private schools did open full time.

I agree.

Agree too (Dem voter). This wasn’t the only issue, but one of the big ones. I fear my party is getting a set of alternative facts (like all the PPs set on arguing that Nova schools were opening just as early as the rest of the country??) Voting Youngkin may have been a stupid way to “punish” school boards, but it still was a strong motivation IMHO.

+1 the “CRT” stuff wasn’t important to NoVa voters (it was just a bone for the R base in the rest of the state), but the closures and the perception that the curriculum was being “dumbed down” by the Democrats in the state DoE WAS important here. All it takes is a few percentage points of people who usually vote D switching to the other side.

And no, NoVa schools didn’t open at the same time as other schools. Anyone with functioning eyes and access to social media could have seen that. The closures killed Democrats and people took out their frustrations on the first election they could.

The closures killed Dems because NOVA parents are lazy and entitled. They didn’t want their kids home all day because then they had to do some work. Teachers are day babysitters that everyone gets for free in their eyes.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't forget the independents. Many of us voted for Youngkin too. We're sick of far left ideologies. Democrats need to take back their party and bring things closer to the center.

But you weren’t sick of right wing attacks on democracy — both literal and legislation? Made up lies about CRT were more compelling than actual threats to our democracy. Why?

DP. I wouldn't vote for a MAGA Republican. Youngkin distanced himself from Trump.