Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Go on.
Interfere with ICE agents during the course of their official business is obstruction of justice. That’s the law. That’s why the command to exit the vehicle was lawful.
The command may have been. Forcing the door open was not.
The command was not lawful. Don’t allow these clowns to gaslight you. This entire interaction was unlawful on ICE’s part.
You realize that ICE has the authority to detain a U.S. citizen if they interfere with their duties, right?
NP. We do. How come 90% of the charges over the past year don't stick?
Let everyone not forget how this all started, which was with fictitious, completely unproven claims of daycare fraud that they’ve used as an excuse to invade a community, which is now resulted in the murder of one of the citizens of Minneapolis.
This is how they’re going to invade every city moving forward.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?
Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?
If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.
Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.
In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.
Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?
I would tell my daughter not to disrupt a lawful proceeding and to obey the people she knows are police. In the victim's case, she brought a car to a gun fight.
That's fine, but what if she just happens to be in a place where ICE rolls in? There is no telling where these days.
I would follow all their directives and teach my kids the same. Don't antagonize. Don't taunt. Don't make waves.
Because the lesson learned is that ICE may murder you.
I live in a large city, value my privacy, and try to keep a low profile. I would never choose to taunt or show disrespect to any law enforcement person for any reason. When I ride public transportation, I do the same. Too many unstable, trigger-happy people in this modern world.
Anonymous wrote:Let everyone not forget how this all started, which was with fictitious, completely unproven claims of daycare fraud that they’ve used as an excuse to invade a community, which is now resulted in the murder of one of the citizens of Minneapolis.
This is how they’re going to invade every city moving forward.
Anonymous wrote:I work for a major metropolitan police department in the South and let me tell you, any cop who handled an encounter the way this ICE officer did would’ve been strung up by internal affairs within 2 minutes.
1) No body cam (can you imagine real cops taking out their cell phones to film an encounter, breaking all manner of policies regarding privacy)?
2) Jumping out of a generic silver pickup truck with nothing identifying it as a law enforcement vehicle.
3) Officers not identifying themselves and immediately running up and escalating the situation by screaming swear words and pulling on the door handle (no cop in a million years would do this; you keep your distance, make verbal contact first, deescalate, ensure the scene is secure—hands on steering wheel etc—then approach the suspect).
4) Accosting a citizen when there’s no report of her in distress or engaged in illegal activity. In other words, she’s not a suspect. If she’s impeding traffic or a law enforcement activity, you tell her to move along. If she refuses to comply, there are procedures for detaining her in a safe, secure manner.
5) Firing at a moving vehicle, including through the driver’s side window, endangering other people’s lives who might be standing on the other side of the vehicle (bullets go through a car door like tin foil)
6) There’s more, but the point is this ICE officer failed at every level. At worst, Renee Good was protesting ICE and being a bit obnoxious about it. She clearly was not trying to harm anyone. She might’ve panicked with all these gunmen screaming at her, She might’ve just said “F it” and tried to drive off. Whatever the case, this is 100% on this ICE officer and the practices (they’re not really even policies) of the ICE terror regime.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Go on.
Interfere with ICE agents during the course of their official business is obstruction of justice. That’s the law. That’s why the command to exit the vehicle was lawful.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If she just obeyed the lawful command to exit her vehicle.
Then what? She would have been violently thrown to the pavement with a knee in her back as seen in numerous ICE videos? He wouldn't have had a chance to murder her? Where are you gong with this?
She’d be alive.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I work for a major metropolitan police department in the South and let me tell you, any cop who handled an encounter the way this ICE officer did would’ve been strung up by internal affairs within 2 minutes.
1) No body cam (can you imagine real cops taking out their cell phones to film an encounter, breaking all manner of policies regarding privacy)?
2) Jumping out of a generic silver pickup truck with nothing identifying it as a law enforcement vehicle.
3) Officers not identifying themselves and immediately running up and escalating the situation by screaming swear words and pulling on the door handle (no cop in a million years would do this; you keep your distance, make verbal contact first, deescalate, ensure the scene is secure—hands on steering wheel etc—then approach the suspect).
4) Accosting a citizen when there’s no report of her in distress or engaged in illegal activity. In other words, she’s not a suspect. If she’s impeding traffic or a law enforcement activity, you tell her to move along. If she refuses to comply, there are procedures for detaining her in a safe, secure manner.
5) Firing at a moving vehicle, including through the driver’s side window, endangering other people’s lives who might be standing on the other side of the vehicle (bullets go through a car door like tin foil)
6) There’s more, but the point is this ICE officer failed at every level. At worst, Renee Good was protesting ICE and being a bit obnoxious about it. She clearly was not trying to harm anyone. She might’ve panicked with all these gunmen screaming at her, She might’ve just said “F it” and tried to drive off. Whatever the case, this is 100% on this ICE officer and the practices (they’re not really even policies) of the ICE terror regime.
Also endangered anybody down the street of vehicle manned by a dead driver.
Anonymous wrote:Let everyone not forget how this all started, which was with fictitious, completely unproven claims of daycare fraud that they’ve used as an excuse to invade a community, which is now resulted in the murder of one of the citizens of Minneapolis.
This is how they’re going to invade every city moving forward.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Go on.
Interfere with ICE agents during the course of their official business is obstruction of justice. That’s the law. That’s why the command to exit the vehicle was lawful.
The command may have been. Forcing the door open was not.
The command was not lawful. Don’t allow these clowns to gaslight you. This entire interaction was unlawful on ICE’s part.
You realize that ICE has the authority to detain a U.S. citizen if they interfere with their duties, right?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Go on.
Interfere with ICE agents during the course of their official business is obstruction of justice. That’s the law. That’s why the command to exit the vehicle was lawful.
The command may have been. Forcing the door open was not.
The command was not lawful. Don’t allow these clowns to gaslight you. This entire interaction was unlawful on ICE’s part.
You realize that ICE has the authority to detain a U.S. citizen if they interfere with their duties, right?
Anonymous wrote:I work for a major metropolitan police department in the South and let me tell you, any cop who handled an encounter the way this ICE officer did would’ve been strung up by internal affairs within 2 minutes.
1) No body cam (can you imagine real cops taking out their cell phones to film an encounter, breaking all manner of policies regarding privacy)?
2) Jumping out of a generic silver pickup truck with nothing identifying it as a law enforcement vehicle.
3) Officers not identifying themselves and immediately running up and escalating the situation by screaming swear words and pulling on the door handle (no cop in a million years would do this; you keep your distance, make verbal contact first, deescalate, ensure the scene is secure—hands on steering wheel etc—then approach the suspect).
4) Accosting a citizen when there’s no report of her in distress or engaged in illegal activity. In other words, she’s not a suspect. If she’s impeding traffic or a law enforcement activity, you tell her to move along. If she refuses to comply, there are procedures for detaining her in a safe, secure manner.
5) Firing at a moving vehicle, including through the driver’s side window, endangering other people’s lives who might be standing on the other side of the vehicle (bullets go through a car door like tin foil)
6) There’s more, but the point is this ICE officer failed at every level. At worst, Renee Good was protesting ICE and being a bit obnoxious about it. She clearly was not trying to harm anyone. She might’ve panicked with all these gunmen screaming at her, She might’ve just said “F it” and tried to drive off. Whatever the case, this is 100% on this ICE officer and the practices (they’re not really even policies) of the ICE terror regime.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Go on.
Interfere with ICE agents during the course of their official business is obstruction of justice. That’s the law. That’s why the command to exit the vehicle was lawful.
The command may have been. Forcing the door open was not.
The command was not lawful. Don’t allow these clowns to gaslight you. This entire interaction was unlawful on ICE’s part.