Anonymous
Post 05/16/2025 15:19     Subject: VRSC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think they are talking about the 09 boys black team. But only a few of those players are going to be on the MLSNEXT 2 team.


What happened to the rest of them?


Pre MLSNEXT team at VRSC
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2025 14:37     Subject: VRSC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They only have mlsnext2 right?


Yes I forgot to put the 2 on there. That is why I said they are going to get there, they only have MLSNext2 right now.


How are they getting there? Can they do it with actual development and own work or is just simply via money? Can they achieve anything without buying it out? 🤫

Really who cares how they get there? Success has to be done the "right" way or it doesn't count? Tell that to all the companies like Microsoft and Meta who buy and copy their products instead of inventing them. Or the pro sports teams like the Dodgers or PSG who pay big money to bring in superstars instead of developing their own. Why are you hung up on only one way to succeed? There are many paths to success and at the end of the day people only remember the success not the path.


The Dodgers have the third best rated "farm system" coming into the 2025 season. PSG has six players on their senior men's team who came through the PSG youth system. That may not sound like many but compare them to MCFC, LFC, Bayern Munich, or Chelsea and you will see it's comparable to or better than the others.

I assume you were trying to use "slurs" from fans of other teams who are jealous because their team can't, doesn’t win.

In the case of "big" professional clubs the ones with sustained success often, not always, have a mixture of players from outside and inside. MCFC, not really, they are poor at bringing their youth into the first team. However, they have former academy players all over Europe playing first team football. The Yankees have "bought" success for many years. It works for them usually but not always. Todd Boly has tried it with Chelsea and it is not working.

You do need an owner willing to spend though. The Lerners are the richest owners in baseball but won't spend any money and it shows in the results the team achieves.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2025 14:22     Subject: VRSC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They only have mlsnext2 right?


Yes I forgot to put the 2 on there. That is why I said they are going to get there, they only have MLSNext2 right now.


How are they getting there? Can they do it with actual development and own work or is just simply via money? Can they achieve anything without buying it out? 🤫

Really who cares how they get there? Success has to be done the "right" way or it doesn't count? Tell that to all the companies like Microsoft and Meta who buy and copy their products instead of inventing them. Or the pro sports teams like the Dodgers or PSG who pay big money to bring in superstars instead of developing their own. Why are you hung up on only one way to succeed? There are many paths to success and at the end of the day people only remember the success not the path.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2025 14:14     Subject: VRSC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not a hater just pointing out that a team of boys playing NCSL is not going to magically be competitive in MLS. They would have to cut a bunch of boys from their first teams.

NCSL and EDP are equivalent. Both have a ton of levels.


+1


So the one team that just won their division of Jeff Cup want be able to compete? We'll see.

I love how you all can make assumptions without ever seeing the team(s) play.


9/10 division in the U16 Boys. Congratulations.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2025 13:33     Subject: VRSC
Anonymous wrote:I think they are talking about the 09 boys black team. But only a few of those players are going to be on the MLSNEXT 2 team.


What happened to the rest of them?
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2025 13:27     Subject: VRSC
I think they are talking about the 09 boys black team. But only a few of those players are going to be on the MLSNEXT 2 team.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2025 12:31     Subject: VRSC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not a hater just pointing out that a team of boys playing NCSL is not going to magically be competitive in MLS. They would have to cut a bunch of boys from their first teams.

NCSL and EDP are equivalent. Both have a ton of levels.


+1


So the one team that just won their division of Jeff Cup want be able to compete? We'll see.

I love how you all can make assumptions without ever seeing the team(s) play.


What team was that?
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2025 11:12     Subject: VRSC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not a hater just pointing out that a team of boys playing NCSL is not going to magically be competitive in MLS. They would have to cut a bunch of boys from their first teams.

NCSL and EDP are equivalent. Both have a ton of levels.


+1


So the one team that just won their division of Jeff Cup want be able to compete? We'll see.

I love how you all can make assumptions without ever seeing the team(s) play.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2025 10:58     Subject: VRSC
Anonymous wrote:Not a hater just pointing out that a team of boys playing NCSL is not going to magically be competitive in MLS. They would have to cut a bunch of boys from their first teams.

NCSL and EDP are equivalent. Both have a ton of levels.


+1
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2025 10:36     Subject: VRSC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:On the boys side, their top teams played NCSL this year, right? Now that same group
of boys will be "mls next 2". I don't see how they get to the "mls next" level without displacing most of their kids for outside players.


It looks like a few age groups did have a big influx from outside the club for next year's msln2. Others did not. It's the strength of the current top team that determined this. The same thing happened last year and a little bit this year with the girls side and GA. It is unrealistic to expect children playing division 2 or 3 in ncsl to play in an elite league immediately. They tried it with a couple of the girl's teams with GA this year and it didn't go real great. They aren't replacing entire teams with outsiders. However, if the strength of the top team isn't there, it doesn't make sense to just go with them and lose all your games next season and hope the kids rise to the occasion or quit the team. It's pretty messed up way to do things and a horrible way to set children up to develop, cuz at the end of the day we're all talking about children on here. There's a difference between playing up against harder kids to better yourself and playing up so far that you have no chance of development because you're on different playing fields. As I said, not everybody was brought in from outside and there are some teams that will compete just fine imo.


GA teams are doing very well for first season, precisely because there was an influx of outside talent, largely from FCV. The oldest team is relatively weak because there was no reason for outside talent to join a new club when they've already committed to college. 2009s are top of the table in their GA conference. 2012s, 2011s, 2010s, and 2008s (i.e., every other GA team) are all solidly mid-table (6th or 7th out of 14 teams). Those results has attracted a few better players for next season, who will replace the weakest current players, which will make the team modestly better next year, and the process will continue. It will be harder and take longer on the boys side because they will not benefit from an influx of talent from a successful club blowing up in their backyard.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2025 10:15     Subject: VRSC
Not a hater just pointing out that a team of boys playing NCSL is not going to magically be competitive in MLS. They would have to cut a bunch of boys from their first teams.

NCSL and EDP are equivalent. Both have a ton of levels.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2025 10:14     Subject: VRSC
Anonymous wrote:On the boys side, their top teams played NCSL this year, right? Now that same group
of boys will be "mls next 2". I don't see how they get to the "mls next" level without displacing most of their kids for outside players.


It looks like a few age groups did have a big influx from outside the club for next year's msln2. Others did not. It's the strength of the current top team that determined this. The same thing happened last year and a little bit this year with the girls side and GA. It is unrealistic to expect children playing division 2 or 3 in ncsl to play in an elite league immediately. They tried it with a couple of the girl's teams with GA this year and it didn't go real great. They aren't replacing entire teams with outsiders. However, if the strength of the top team isn't there, it doesn't make sense to just go with them and lose all your games next season and hope the kids rise to the occasion or quit the team. It's pretty messed up way to do things and a horrible way to set children up to develop, cuz at the end of the day we're all talking about children on here. There's a difference between playing up against harder kids to better yourself and playing up so far that you have no chance of development because you're on different playing fields. As I said, not everybody was brought in from outside and there are some teams that will compete just fine imo.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2025 10:12     Subject: VRSC
Anonymous wrote:On the boys side, their top teams played NCSL this year, right? Now that same group
of boys will be "mls next 2". I don't see how they get to the "mls next" level without displacing most of their kids for outside players.


They only played NCSL for spring they played EDP in fall.

There are a couple boys teams they have skills and talent.

Oh wait haters are here. You will never admit there are any players with talent.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2025 09:54     Subject: VRSC
On the boys side, their top teams played NCSL this year, right? Now that same group
of boys will be "mls next 2". I don't see how they get to the "mls next" level without displacing most of their kids for outside players.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2025 09:21     Subject: VRSC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They only have mlsnext2 right?


Yes I forgot to put the 2 on there. That is why I said they are going to get there, they only have MLSNext2 right now.


How are they getting there? Can they do it with actual development and own work or is just simply via money? Can they achieve anything without buying it out? 🤫