Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Evidence entered at AP's hearing indicated Joe introduced the idea of knife play, not CB or BB pretending to be CB."

Please cite verbatim this so-called
evidence.

Check out page 144 of this thread. The post is highly detailed. It is either an amazing troll job or it is true reflection of what happened at the hearing and really challenges the idea BB set up the meeting between Joe and CB.

The post you are referring to does not say JR introduced the idea of knife play. It doesn’t claim that either one introduced the idea. It said:


- They discussed blood play (cutting)
- CB asked JR, "Do you still want to tear off my clothes? I have a set of old pajamas you can tear"
- A set of ripped pajamas was recovered from the scene
- Pics of a knife, ropes, chains, rubber restraints were sent by JR to CB
- CB took selfie in a bathing suit and sent to husband. A few hours later sent the same selfie to JR with caption: "I sent this to my husband and he didn't even notice I lost 20 pounds"
- Judge questioned about the 45 min phone call over telegram that occurred between CB and JR
- After the phone call, JR texted: "It was great hearing your sexy voice"
- JR wrote that he had only done blood play once before, with razor blades
- CB had several superficial cuts that barely broke the skin

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Evidence entered at AP's hearing indicated Joe introduced the idea of knife play, not CB or BB pretending to be CB."

Please cite verbatim this so-called
evidence.

Check out page 144 of this thread. The post is highly detailed. It is either an amazing troll job or it is true reflection of what happened at the hearing and really challenges the idea BB set up the meeting between Joe and CB.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can't rely on the suggestion that JR introduced the idea of a knife as the whole truth.

It's possible someone (BB or AP pretending to be CB, or BB as himself) suggested it or lead JR to bring it up via messages that were done on another phone. We just don't have all the info. I'd tread lightly on saying that we know FOR SURE that JR brought up the concept of a knife in the mix.

Especially as a message in court stated Joe had NEVER DONE knife play for all his F&tlife assignations. Sure was convenient for BB for him to consent this time and BRING one, huh? What a coincidence that BB needed another man to be the literal fall guy and for him to have a weapon other than BB's service revolver or the 2nd gun he had brought recently and then all of a sudden, for the 1st time in his life, JR agreed to knife play with someone with a blood clotting disorder. We don't know if CB consented or if JR knew of her health issue. I can see why VA may think it smacks of a set up. YMMV.

Anonymous wrote:You can't rely on the suggestion that JR introduced the idea of a knife as the whole truth.

It's possible someone (BB or AP pretending to be CB, or BB as himself) suggested it or lead JR to bring it up via messages that were done on another phone. We just don't have all the info. I'd tread lightly on saying that we know FOR SURE that JR brought up the concept of a knife in the mix.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christine wasn’t just a nurse. She was a SANE nurse which is a Sexual Assault Nurse Examiner.

She often would examine the victims of rape or other sex crimes and be required to testify in court about it.

For her to want to live out a fantasy of a violent rape at knife point similar to the traumas she often encountered seems very bizarre and out of character

No need to kink shame her. Her fetish was not a crime.

C*ck scenes are much more likely to be instigated by the husband. In this case, not for sex but as a set up to pin the murder on another man.

I don't think we know enough about Christine's involvement to know if this was new and part of the lure and ruse or something they had done before. So, can't assume it was about her. And JR had never done knife play. BB may have been the hidden hand behind it all, setting both up for death.

Evidence entered at AP's hearing indicated Joe introduced the idea of knife play, not CB or BB pretending to be CB. The AP's defense also introduced evidence that strengthened the idea that the communications were between Joe and CB, for example Joe spoke to CB on the phone, CB texted Joe pictures.

I believe only the indication BB was involved in setting it up are:
-Police comments at the start of the investigation saying family thought account didn't "sound" like CB
-Anonymous message board posts of people claiming to be Joe's friends
-Someone on this thread hypothesizing a c*ck situation, influenced by a popular thread on the relationship forum
None of the above implicating BB has been entered as evidence in court unlike the evidence entered by AP's attorney

Someone correct me if I'm wrong and missed something indicating BB and Joe communicated.

Anonymous wrote:"Check out page 144 of this thread. The post is highly detailed. It is either an amazing troll job or it is true reflection of what happened at the hearing and really challenges the idea BB set up the meeting between Joe and CB."

Again, not fact. These were, according to PP, things brought up according to transcripts of electronic exchanges between JR and CB. But very few people believe (not fact admittedly) that someone else was behind "CB" persona.

Anonymous wrote:"Evidence entered at AP's hearing indicated Joe introduced the idea of knife play, not CB or BB pretending to be CB."

Please cite verbatim this so-called
evidence.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christine wasn’t just a nurse. She was a SANE nurse which is a Sexual Assault Nurse Examiner.

She often would examine the victims of rape or other sex crimes and be required to testify in court about it.

For her to want to live out a fantasy of a violent rape at knife point similar to the traumas she often encountered seems very bizarre and out of character

No need to kink shame her. Her fetish was not a crime.

C*ck scenes are much more likely to be instigated by the husband. In this case, not for sex but as a set up to pin the murder on another man.

I don't think we know enough about Christine's involvement to know if this was new and part of the lure and ruse or something they had done before. So, can't assume it was about her. And JR had never done knife play. BB may have been the hidden hand behind it all, setting both up for death.