Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 08:14     Subject: Re:Consolidated VA Elections Thread

Anonymous wrote:Keep counting. I'm convinced Terry is still in this to win it. Ds hold NJ!


It’s over.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 08:14     Subject: Re:Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Where are all the fools that said Youngkin had no chance?



I was one of those people. Youngkin had no chance. Period. Not in a state that went for Joe by +10 just a year ago. The results of this election simply fo not match the poling. That means there is exactly one reason, and one reason only, why he won: Fraud. Massive, unprecedented fraud.

The republicans stole this election. There is no other reason.


You are really ignorant. McAuliffe was an awful candidate. The Loudoun school rape and it’s coverup had an impact. Parents are pissed about the past twenty months. The Democrat response was to declare parents should have no say in their schools. Democrats shot themselves in the foot. There was no fraud. People are angry and voting for Youngkin was their response. I hope he governs as a centrist. We’ll see.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 08:14     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is the perfect illustration of the point being made on CNN last night that Dems need to adjust their approach and their attitude. The reality is that independents and suburban moderates are very off put by the Dems habit of talking down to and insulting anyone who agrees with some Republican points or disagrees with Democrat points.

Dems, look in the mirror because the moderate suburbans and independents you need to win find the current iteration of the party to be insufferable.

But the insults go both ways. Rs are constantly insulting Ds but apparently that’s ok with voters.


DP. Great self reflection.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 08:14     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like exit polls said a lot of white people flipped to Youngkin but other groups picked McAuliffe. Youngkin did an awesome job playing on the white victim card in a gentler way than Trump did.


I heard a lot of Latinos voted Youngkin. I don’t think it was just whites and the Ds need to reckon with that.


Asians too.

And Youngkin doubled the republican AA vote.


Did you even click the link — sorry, I don’t know how to post the screenshot. Every group, including Asians and Hispanics, voted for McAuliffe. White people voted for Youngkin by a lot.

https://mobile.twitter.com/morganicink/status/1455734674639126528?s=10


It is an anonymous vote. These are just assumptions
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 08:14     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

Anonymous wrote:A man whose kids and grandkids will never attend a public school is not going to be the champion of public schooling.

You want school policy changed, start with school boards.

However, unless you get a job with VDOE, you’re still SOL.


Do local schools want state grants?
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 08:12     Subject: Re:Consolidated VA Elections Thread

Keep counting. I'm convinced Terry is still in this to win it. Ds hold NJ!
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Post 11/03/2021 08:12     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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IMO they shot themselves in the foot by closing school. What an impact they made on so many people day in and day out for a year. I certainly hope it is a case study for the future.


They made informed, reasonable decisions based on the info we had and resources available. You think we have staffing issues now? Imagine if you forced teachers in last fall before the vaccine and as numbers were skyrocketing.

Our schools (local, not state) didn’t just say F it and send kids back in.

Sorry that pisses you off so much that you had to vote for a Trump Republican.


I voted D like I always do but your attitude is exactly why the Rs won and I’ve been saying that.
I also remember that Northam allowed schools to open hybrid in August 2020 and Fairfax had some of the best corona numbers in the state - not the worst - such that we should have considered being more conservative than he allowed with school reopening. And I also didn’t forget that the Dept of Health approved of the hybrid plan as well.


So you’re pissed at FCPS?



I am just telling you where the people are so the Ds don’t miss the mark next time.


Most of the parents don't remember the nuance of what the governor approved vs. what happened. All they saw is that public schools weren't open for most of 2020-2021, while private schools did open full time.


I agree.


Agree too (Dem voter). This wasn’t the only issue, but one of the big ones. I fear my party is getting a set of alternative facts (like all the PPs set on arguing that Nova schools were opening just as early as the rest of the country??) Voting Youngkin may have been a stupid way to “punish” school boards, but it still was a strong motivation IMHO.


+1 the “CRT” stuff wasn’t important to NoVa voters (it was just a bone for the R base in the rest of the state), but the closures and the perception that the curriculum was being “dumbed down” by the Democrats in the state DoE WAS important here. All it takes is a few percentage points of people who usually vote D switching to the other side.

And no, NoVa schools didn’t open at the same time as other schools. Anyone with functioning eyes and access to social media could have seen that. The closures killed Democrats and people took out their frustrations on the first election they could.


The closures killed Dems because NOVA parents are lazy and entitled. They didn’t want their kids home all day because then they had to do some work. Teachers are day babysitters that everyone gets for free in their eyes.


Ok, keep doubling down on why closures for a year followed by a VERY reluctant and part-time “reopening” was a great idea and didn’t cause massive learning loss and distrust in public education. See how that works out.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 08:11     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

A man whose kids and grandkids will never attend a public school is not going to be the champion of public schooling.

You want school policy changed, start with school boards.

However, unless you get a job with VDOE, you’re still SOL.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 08:11     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

Anonymous wrote:This thread is the perfect illustration of the point being made on CNN last night that Dems need to adjust their approach and their attitude. The reality is that independents and suburban moderates are very off put by the Dems habit of talking down to and insulting anyone who agrees with some Republican points or disagrees with Democrat points.

Dems, look in the mirror because the moderate suburbans and independents you need to win find the current iteration of the party to be insufferable.

But the insults go both ways. Rs are constantly insulting Ds but apparently that’s ok with voters.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 08:11     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

Anonymous wrote:This thread is the perfect illustration of the point being made on CNN last night that Dems need to adjust their approach and their attitude. The reality is that independents and suburban moderates are very off put by the Dems habit of talking down to and insulting anyone who agrees with some Republican points or disagrees with Democrat points.

Dems, look in the mirror because the moderate suburbans and independents you need to win find the current iteration of the party to be insufferable.


And uninspiring. Terry was the best you could find? An old white guy?
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 08:10     Subject: Re:Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else have a wife in a really bad mood this morning?



That’s what you get for marrying a women’s studies major.




I'm a leftist and it is so sad to actually give a sht about Terry F'n McAuliffe who is nothing more than a boomer bag man. I live in DC so don't really care, but run a real candidate next time.


Eh, same kind of swamp creature re-tread as Biden.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 08:10     Subject: Re:Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else have a wife in a really bad mood this morning?



That’s what you get for marrying a women’s studies major.


or just a "college educated" woman.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 08:09     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

This thread is the perfect illustration of the point being made on CNN last night that Dems need to adjust their approach and their attitude. The reality is that independents and suburban moderates are very off put by the Dems habit of talking down to and insulting anyone who agrees with some Republican points or disagrees with Democrat points.

Dems, look in the mirror because the moderate suburbans and independents you need to win find the current iteration of the party to be insufferable.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 08:08     Subject: Re:Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Don't forget the independents. Many of us voted for Youngkin too. We're sick of far left ideologies. Democrats need to take back their party and bring things closer to the center.


But you weren’t sick of right wing attacks on democracy — both literal and legislation? Made up lies about CRT were more compelling than actual threats to our democracy. Why?


DP. I wouldn't vote for a MAGA Republican. Youngkin distanced himself from Trump.


DP. I didn't vote for Youngkin because he didn't distance himself from Trump. But now we've got him, so I'll cross my fingers that he'll distance himself now.
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Post 11/03/2021 08:08     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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IMO they shot themselves in the foot by closing school. What an impact they made on so many people day in and day out for a year. I certainly hope it is a case study for the future.


They made informed, reasonable decisions based on the info we had and resources available. You think we have staffing issues now? Imagine if you forced teachers in last fall before the vaccine and as numbers were skyrocketing.

Our schools (local, not state) didn’t just say F it and send kids back in.

Sorry that pisses you off so much that you had to vote for a Trump Republican.


I voted D like I always do but your attitude is exactly why the Rs won and I’ve been saying that.
I also remember that Northam allowed schools to open hybrid in August 2020 and Fairfax had some of the best corona numbers in the state - not the worst - such that we should have considered being more conservative than he allowed with school reopening. And I also didn’t forget that the Dept of Health approved of the hybrid plan as well.


So you’re pissed at FCPS?



I am just telling you where the people are so the Ds don’t miss the mark next time.


Most of the parents don't remember the nuance of what the governor approved vs. what happened. All they saw is that public schools weren't open for most of 2020-2021, while private schools did open full time.


I agree.


Agree too (Dem voter). This wasn’t the only issue, but one of the big ones. I fear my party is getting a set of alternative facts (like all the PPs set on arguing that Nova schools were opening just as early as the rest of the country??) Voting Youngkin may have been a stupid way to “punish” school boards, but it still was a strong motivation IMHO.


DP. It’s going to come back to bite them because they are too short-sighted to think through the implications of Youngkin’s policy positions. It’s like that Trumper woman from a few years ago crying to media when her undocumented immigrant husband got deported that she thought Trump was talking about deporting other “illegals,” not her husband. No, dumbass, he was talking about your husband too. Congrats on voting to deport your own husband to own the libs.