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Anonymous

04/02/2025 10:41 Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)

Anonymous wrote:So now there's to many clubs? Is this what the ECNL hats are saying?

The whole "watering down" concept is BS. Clubs develop players. Top players in the club development program filter up to the clubs top teams. The top teams success is because of all the work clubs put into training their top players.

ECNL parents don't understand this because they're used to recruiting the top players from other clubs development programs. When they say watered down what they're really saying is their club can't compete when they're forced to develop players from littles all the way to u19.

It will be fun watching ECNL clubs be forced to develop their own players from youth all the way up to u19. Instead of just poaching them from other clubs at u13.

Anonymous

04/02/2025 10:37 Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
"Atlanta has 5 ECNL/4 GA

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True but 3 of the 4 Girls Academy teams most talented Atlanta players would never consider joining. Girls who are on TopHat Navy, SSA, and AFC likely are those who can't make any ECNL roster or TopHat Gold. And the talent on those teams is really watered down. So not sure Atlanta having 9 teams is a good example of a market that can handle that many "top" level teams.

In the 2011-2012 girls years the second Concorde Fire team ECNL Premier team isn't even based out of Atlanta anymore (same with 2013s coming up). It's based out of a regional CF club in Columbus 2 hours away. This is also because of watered down talent in Atlanta with Premier teams 2010 and older having such poor performance.

Watering down the market with too many GA and ECNL teams means some teams will be very poorly performing.

Or to ne de ilsa advocate it can give more talent time to shine. Let's be real we all know teams have favorite players

Or to be devils advocate it can give more talent more time to shine. Let's be real we all know teams have favorite players

Anonymous

04/02/2025 10:26 Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)

So now there's to many clubs? Is this what the ECNL hats are saying?

The whole "watering down" concept is BS. Clubs develop players. Top players in the club development program filter up to the clubs top teams. The top teams success is because of all the work clubs put into training their top players.

ECNL parents don't understand this because they're used to recruiting the top players from other clubs development programs. When they say watered down what they're really saying is their club can't compete when they're forced to develop players from littles all the way to u19.

Anonymous

04/02/2025 10:13 Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)

Anonymous wrote:
"Atlanta has 5 ECNL/4 GA

"

True but 3 of the 4 Girls Academy teams most talented Atlanta players would never consider joining. Girls who are on TopHat Navy, SSA, and AFC likely are those who can't make any ECNL roster or TopHat Gold. And the talent on those teams is really watered down. So not sure Atlanta having 9 teams is a good example of a market that can handle that many "top" level teams.

In the 2011-2012 girls years the second Concorde Fire team ECNL Premier team isn't even based out of Atlanta anymore (same with 2013s coming up). It's based out of a regional CF club in Columbus 2 hours away. This is also because of watered down talent in Atlanta with Premier teams 2010 and older having such poor performance.

Watering down the market with too many GA and ECNL teams means some teams will be very poorly performing.

Or to ne de ilsa advocate it can give more talent time to shine. Let's be real we all know teams have favorite players

Anonymous

04/02/2025 10:11 Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)

"Atlanta has 5 ECNL/4 GA

Anonymous

04/02/2025 09:08 Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what’s the recipe here?

Part of the reason the DA broke was because of long distance travel. This is will the issue for ECNL in this area…

Long distance travel = teams from va/md playing teams from Florida in a conference game. Ga/ECNL teams driving to nc is nothing.

I’m just saying that’s what happened to DA. don’t get defensive bud.

DA had a lot of issues and that was one area of concern. Who is VDA going to play and how far are they doing to drive to beat teams 10-0?

7 NoVa GA clubs
3 Nova girls ECNL clubs

Who is driving further?

If you’re concerned about travel, this probably isn’t for you.

Anonymous

04/02/2025 08:18 Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)

Most would agree that travelling crazy distances for league games does not equate to higher levels of play nor is it even an absolute necessity. Create localized competition, then via merit, allow those teams to compete at larger events comprised of teams further out.

Anonymous

04/02/2025 08:10 Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this right? Now there are 7 GA teams in NoVa?
Mclean
Loudoun
NVA
Revolution
SYC
Alexandria
St James

7 GA and the 3 ECNL teams makes 10 national platform teams? 11 if Bethesda is included. Does any other metro have anything close to this many teams?

SoCal, Atlanta, NYC and some others depending on if you just asking about an actual metro area of an specific area size.

You also forgot Skyline

Plus Armour Celtic and MDU if we are talking about the MSI. And coppermine. Too many.

Last year all the ECNL hats were laughing because they thought no club would switch from ECNL to GA.

This year apparently too many ECNL clubs have switched to GA.

The nonsense never stops with the hats.

No top ECNL club would switch to ga. Plenty of mediocre ones have.

Unfortunately you need some average or mediocre teams to make up a conference or if you just want the elite of the elite in the league you'll be hopping flights for regular season games. Say as you want but keep dismissing these mediocre losses as they can add up. Travel does matter to some families maybe not super rich or super ecnl crazy but one size doesn't fit all

Anonymous

04/02/2025 07:45 Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this right? Now there are 7 GA teams in NoVa?
Mclean
Loudoun
NVA
Revolution
SYC
Alexandria
St James

7 GA and the 3 ECNL teams makes 10 national platform teams? 11 if Bethesda is included. Does any other metro have anything close to this many teams?

SoCal, Atlanta, NYC and some others depending on if you just asking about an actual metro area of an specific area size.

You also forgot Skyline

Plus Armour Celtic and MDU if we are talking about the MSI. And coppermine. Too many.

Last year all the ECNL hats were laughing because they thought no club would switch from ECNL to GA.

This year apparently too many ECNL clubs have switched to GA.

The nonsense never stops with the hats.

I am the PP-- the point I was making is we do not have the depth of talent in this region to support 13-15 teams. Not a single one of those teams will be able to compete at the highest level, whether that be ENCL or GA. I did not speak to either specifically

Don't confused talent with training. Clubs, especially ECNL, have become complacent knowing they'd never be removed and that they effectively blocked certain competing clubs from entering. Ever think why and area with a larger population would have less clubs in ECNL or GA then some other areas? They don't breed them different in Texas, Georgia, or Cal they just train them better.

Anonymous

04/02/2025 00:01 Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what’s the recipe here?

Part of the reason the DA broke was because of long distance travel. This is will the issue for ECNL in this area…

Long distance travel = teams from va/md playing teams from Florida in a conference game. Ga/ECNL teams driving to nc is nothing.

I’m just saying that’s what happened to DA. don’t get defensive bud.

DA had a lot of issues and that was one area of concern. Who is VDA going to play and how far are they doing to drive to beat teams 10-0?

7 NoVa GA clubs
3 Nova girls ECNL clubs

Who is driving further?

ECNL. They will go to NC

Anonymous

04/01/2025 23:55 Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what’s the recipe here?

Part of the reason the DA broke was because of long distance travel. This is will the issue for ECNL in this area…

Long distance travel = teams from va/md playing teams from Florida in a conference game. Ga/ECNL teams driving to nc is nothing.

I’m just saying that’s what happened to DA. don’t get defensive bud.

DA had a lot of issues and that was one area of concern. Who is VDA going to play and how far are they doing to drive to beat teams 10-0?

7 NoVa GA clubs
3 Nova girls ECNL clubs

Who is driving further?

Anonymous

04/01/2025 23:06 Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what’s the recipe here?

Part of the reason the DA broke was because of long distance travel. This is will the issue for ECNL in this area…

Long distance travel = teams from va/md playing teams from Florida in a conference game. Ga/ECNL teams driving to nc is nothing.

I’m just saying that’s what happened to DA. don’t get defensive bud.

DA had a lot of issues and that was one area of concern. Who is VDA going to play and how far are they doing to drive to beat teams 10-0?

Anonymous

04/01/2025 22:42 Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this right? Now there are 7 GA teams in NoVa?
Mclean
Loudoun
NVA
Revolution
SYC
Alexandria
St James

7 GA and the 3 ECNL teams makes 10 national platform teams? 11 if Bethesda is included. Does any other metro have anything close to this many teams?

SoCal, Atlanta, NYC and some others depending on if you just asking about an actual metro area of an specific area size.

You also forgot Skyline

Plus Armour Celtic and MDU if we are talking about the MSI. And coppermine. Too many.

Last year all the ECNL hats were laughing because they thought no club would switch from ECNL to GA.

This year apparently too many ECNL clubs have switched to GA.

The nonsense never stops with the hats.

No top ECNL club would switch to ga. Plenty of mediocre ones have.

Give it time.

Next phase is for MLSN to start pressing clubs that have girls ECNL into GA.

Kick and scream all you want. Slowly you'll be surrounded.

So GA is CCL rebooted?

Anonymous

04/01/2025 22:13 Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this right? Now there are 7 GA teams in NoVa?
Mclean
Loudoun
NVA
Revolution
SYC
Alexandria
St James

7 GA and the 3 ECNL teams makes 10 national platform teams? 11 if Bethesda is included. Does any other metro have anything close to this many teams?

SoCal, Atlanta, NYC and some others depending on if you just asking about an actual metro area of an specific area size.

You also forgot Skyline

Plus Armour Celtic and MDU if we are talking about the MSI. And coppermine. Too many.

Last year all the ECNL hats were laughing because they thought no club would switch from ECNL to GA.

This year apparently too many ECNL clubs have switched to GA.

The nonsense never stops with the hats.

No top ECNL club would switch to ga. Plenty of mediocre ones have.

Give it time.

Next phase is for MLSN to start pressing clubs that have girls ECNL into GA.

Kick and scream all you want. Slowly you'll be surrounded.

Anonymous

04/01/2025 22:11 Subject: New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)

Anonymous wrote:So what’s the recipe here?

Part of the reason the DA broke was because of long distance travel. This is will the issue for ECNL in this area…

Long distance travel = teams from va/md playing teams from Florida in a conference game. Ga/ECNL teams driving to nc is nothing.