Anonymous
07/27/2023 14:52
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Why are there so many vehemently pro Russia pps on this thread?
Apparently 60,000 rubles a month to troll US message boards is good pay in St. Petersburg.
Anonymous
07/27/2023 14:51
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looks like Ukraine has committed its forces in the southeast. Hopefully there's a breakthrough
Very perplexed by African countries going through with their summit meeting with Putin. Genuinely bizarre. There's no good outcome here.
I'm not worried at all.
Sure, they can buy off the corrupt government heads with hookers and money, but that will be similar to their relationship with Saudi Arabia - a marriage of convenience that ends in divorce when the water gets too hot.
It will give the Africans time to really get to know Russians well. The average ultranationalist supporting the government is exceptionally xenophobic and unconditionally racist. My guess is that some FSB agent or cop will see a black diplomat on the street, not realize they're a dignitary and treat them exactly the way the other 0.04% of blacks are treated in Russia. It will be a 'warm welcome' I'm sure. In the end, I think the Russian government will drive their own wedge between themselves and Africa.
LOL you say this like thousands of Africans haven't been educated in Russia over the last fifty years. They've experienced life on the Russian streets in full, and yet lived to tell the tale, and somehow retained a warm affection for the country.
Thirty thousand African students are enrolled in higher education programs in Russia today.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1131857/number-of-african-students-in-russia-by-country/
The US has tens of thousands of African students too. Interesting that hardly any of Russia's African students ever bother to stay in Russia, or to come back to Russia after finishing their studies. Russia's population is only 0.06% African origin, only around 90,000 total, including your 30,000 students. Compare that to to 2.1 million African immigrants living in the US. Russia goes through the motions with its legacy Soviet-era student program, but is NOT that attractive to Africans.
Are African students in the US studying on an all-expenses-paid program?
Russian education programs for the African students are explicitly designed for these students to return home so their communities can benefit from their expertise. (Which is exactly the purpose for the multiple US scholarship program like FUllbright and Muskie, where beneficiaries are legally required to return to their home country for at least 2 years).
I am sure you realize that historically there is no native African population in Russia. A bit disingenuous to compare that to the African immigrant community in the US.
No dear, you misread. There are 2.1 million African-born immigrants in the US. As in, not born in the US and came to the US. In addition to the African-Americans. Thus your excuse for why there aren't more Africans in Russia is a failure.
Anonymous
07/27/2023 14:42
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Why are there so many vehemently pro Russia pps on this thread?
Anonymous
07/27/2023 14:37
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:There are photos of African diplomats in St. Petersburg meeting with Prigozhin, the head of Wagner.
I genuinely don't understand why countries like South Africa, the Central African Republic, Egypt, and Ethiopia are choosing to align themselves with Russia at this moment in time, particularly since Russia is destroying Ukraine's capacity to export grain to the region.
Pathetic.
The Cold War is over. These countries should be regarded as pariah states. No aid. No trade.
Because they don't like to be told what to do? And be careful, you're running out of pariah states. You remind me of the Taliban who'd takfir every Muslim who doesn't meet their definition of Muslimness.
Anonymous
07/27/2023 14:36
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looks like Ukraine has committed its forces in the southeast. Hopefully there's a breakthrough
Very perplexed by African countries going through with their summit meeting with Putin. Genuinely bizarre. There's no good outcome here.
I'm not worried at all.
Sure, they can buy off the corrupt government heads with hookers and money, but that will be similar to their relationship with Saudi Arabia - a marriage of convenience that ends in divorce when the water gets too hot.
It will give the Africans time to really get to know Russians well. The average ultranationalist supporting the government is exceptionally xenophobic and unconditionally racist. My guess is that some FSB agent or cop will see a black diplomat on the street, not realize they're a dignitary and treat them exactly the way the other 0.04% of blacks are treated in Russia. It will be a 'warm welcome' I'm sure. In the end, I think the Russian government will drive their own wedge between themselves and Africa.
LOL you say this like thousands of Africans haven't been educated in Russia over the last fifty years. They've experienced life on the Russian streets in full, and yet lived to tell the tale, and somehow retained a warm affection for the country.
Thirty thousand African students are enrolled in higher education programs in Russia today.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1131857/number-of-african-students-in-russia-by-country/
The US has tens of thousands of African students too. Interesting that hardly any of Russia's African students ever bother to stay in Russia, or to come back to Russia after finishing their studies. Russia's population is only 0.06% African origin, only around 90,000 total, including your 30,000 students. Compare that to to 2.1 million African immigrants living in the US. Russia goes through the motions with its legacy Soviet-era student program, but is NOT that attractive to Africans.
Are African students in the US studying on an all-expenses-paid program?
Russian education programs for the African students are explicitly designed for these students to return home so their communities can benefit from their expertise. (Which is exactly the purpose for the multiple US scholarship program like FUllbright and Muskie, where beneficiaries are legally required to return to their home country for at least 2 years).
I am sure you realize that historically there is no native African population in Russia. A bit disingenuous to compare that to the African immigrant community in the US.
Anonymous
07/27/2023 14:33
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
There are photos of African diplomats in St. Petersburg meeting with Prigozhin, the head of Wagner.
I genuinely don't understand why countries like South Africa, the Central African Republic, Egypt, and Ethiopia are choosing to align themselves with Russia at this moment in time, particularly since Russia is destroying Ukraine's capacity to export grain to the region.
Pathetic.
The Cold War is over. These countries should be regarded as pariah states. No aid. No trade.
I genuinely don't understand why countries like South Africa, the Central African Republic, Egypt, and Ethiopia are choosing to align themselves with Russia at this moment in time, particularly since Russia is destroying Ukraine's capacity to export grain to the region.
Pathetic.
The Cold War is over. These countries should be regarded as pariah states. No aid. No trade.
Anonymous
07/27/2023 14:32
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looks like Ukraine has committed its forces in the southeast. Hopefully there's a breakthrough
Very perplexed by African countries going through with their summit meeting with Putin. Genuinely bizarre. There's no good outcome here.
The US forces things on countries they view as unnatural and wrong. Its pushed a lot of countries into the China/Russia orbit.
💯
The state dept gives lectures
That's the joke in Africa. "From the US, we get lectures. From the Chinese, we get airports."
And from Russian trolls we get fake, made-up "jokes" about what Africa supposedly says.
LOL talk to Larry Summers, tell him that you think he makes things up.
https://www.arabnews.com/node/2290341#:~:text=Larry%20Summers%2C%20the%20former%20US,friend%20in%20Africa%20about%20France.
Larry Summers, the former US secretary of the treasury, last week stated in an interview: “Somebody from a developing country said to me, ‘What we get from China is an airport. What we get from the United States is a lecture.’” I had previously heard the same story from a friend in Africa about France. In the French version, they were getting a highway instead of a lecture. In essence, Summers’ warning of the US being lonely at the top is partly true. Indeed, we sometimes forget that political and security agreements often — if not always — follow economic interests. And, in recent decades, there has been a complete transformation of what we could call partnership maps.
Anonymous
07/27/2023 14:28
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looks like Ukraine has committed its forces in the southeast. Hopefully there's a breakthrough
Very perplexed by African countries going through with their summit meeting with Putin. Genuinely bizarre. There's no good outcome here.
The US forces things on countries they view as unnatural and wrong. Its pushed a lot of countries into the China/Russia orbit.
💯
The state dept gives lectures
That's the joke in Africa. "From the US, we get lectures. From the Chinese, we get airports."
Punch line: The airport is how China will move everything it loots from Africa. The Africans just haven't realized it yet.
Anonymous
07/27/2023 14:25
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looks like Ukraine has committed its forces in the southeast. Hopefully there's a breakthrough
Very perplexed by African countries going through with their summit meeting with Putin. Genuinely bizarre. There's no good outcome here.
The US forces things on countries they view as unnatural and wrong. Its pushed a lot of countries into the China/Russia orbit.
💯
The state dept gives lectures
That's the joke in Africa. "From the US, we get lectures. From the Chinese, we get airports."
And from Russian trolls we get fake, made-up "jokes" about what Africa supposedly says.
Anonymous
07/27/2023 14:20
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looks like Ukraine has committed its forces in the southeast. Hopefully there's a breakthrough
Very perplexed by African countries going through with their summit meeting with Putin. Genuinely bizarre. There's no good outcome here.
I'm not worried at all.
Sure, they can buy off the corrupt government heads with hookers and money, but that will be similar to their relationship with Saudi Arabia - a marriage of convenience that ends in divorce when the water gets too hot.
It will give the Africans time to really get to know Russians well. The average ultranationalist supporting the government is exceptionally xenophobic and unconditionally racist. My guess is that some FSB agent or cop will see a black diplomat on the street, not realize they're a dignitary and treat them exactly the way the other 0.04% of blacks are treated in Russia. It will be a 'warm welcome' I'm sure. In the end, I think the Russian government will drive their own wedge between themselves and Africa.
LOL you say this like thousands of Africans haven't been educated in Russia over the last fifty years. They've experienced life on the Russian streets in full, and yet lived to tell the tale, and somehow retained a warm affection for the country.
Thirty thousand African students are enrolled in higher education programs in Russia today.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1131857/number-of-african-students-in-russia-by-country/
The US has tens of thousands of African students too. Interesting that hardly any of Russia's African students ever bother to stay in Russia, or to come back to Russia after finishing their studies. Russia's population is only 0.06% African origin, only around 90,000 total, including your 30,000 students. Compare that to to 2.1 million African immigrants living in the US. Russia goes through the motions with its legacy Soviet-era student program, but is NOT that attractive to Africans.
Anonymous
07/27/2023 14:03
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looks like Ukraine has committed its forces in the southeast. Hopefully there's a breakthrough
Very perplexed by African countries going through with their summit meeting with Putin. Genuinely bizarre. There's no good outcome here.
I'm not worried at all.
Sure, they can buy off the corrupt government heads with hookers and money, but that will be similar to their relationship with Saudi Arabia - a marriage of convenience that ends in divorce when the water gets too hot.
It will give the Africans time to really get to know Russians well. The average ultranationalist supporting the government is exceptionally xenophobic and unconditionally racist. My guess is that some FSB agent or cop will see a black diplomat on the street, not realize they're a dignitary and treat them exactly the way the other 0.04% of blacks are treated in Russia. It will be a 'warm welcome' I'm sure. In the end, I think the Russian government will drive their own wedge between themselves and Africa.
LOL you say this like thousands of Africans haven't been educated in Russia over the last fifty years. They've experienced life on the Russian streets in full, and yet lived to tell the tale, and somehow retained a warm affection for the country.
Thirty thousand African students are enrolled in higher education programs in Russia today.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1131857/number-of-african-students-in-russia-by-country/
Anonymous
07/27/2023 13:59
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looks like Ukraine has committed its forces in the southeast. Hopefully there's a breakthrough
Very perplexed by African countries going through with their summit meeting with Putin. Genuinely bizarre. There's no good outcome here.
I'm not worried at all.
Sure, they can buy off the corrupt government heads with hookers and money, but that will be similar to their relationship with Saudi Arabia - a marriage of convenience that ends in divorce when the water gets too hot.
It will give the Africans time to really get to know Russians well. The average ultranationalist supporting the government is exceptionally xenophobic and unconditionally racist. My guess is that some FSB agent or cop will see a black diplomat on the street, not realize they're a dignitary and treat them exactly the way the other 0.04% of blacks are treated in Russia. It will be a 'warm welcome' I'm sure. In the end, I think the Russian government will drive their own wedge between themselves and Africa.
LOL you say this like thousands of Africans haven't been educated in Russia over the last fifty years. They've experienced life on the Russian streets in full, and yet lived to tell the tale, and somehow retained a warm affection for the country.
Anonymous
07/27/2023 12:05
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Hey look, LOL.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/27/world/europe/uk-russia-sanctions.html
“We will keep increasing the pressure on Putin and cut off funding for the Russian war machine,” the British foreign secretary said last spring as she announced Russian sanctions in the first weeks of the war in Ukraine.
In the months that followed, Britain was quietly more welcoming. It granted the Russian banking tycoon Mikhail Fridman a license to pay for 19 members of staff, including drivers, private chefs, housekeepers and handymen, during the first year of the war, according to documents reviewed by The New York Times and people directly familiar with the licenses. The payment came to 300,000 pounds (almost $400,000) over about ten months. Mr. Fridman also received a roughly £7,000 monthly allowance to cover his family’s basic needs.
Officials permitted his former business partner, Petr Aven, a monthly allowance of £60,000. The majority went to a security company owned by Mr. Aven’s financial manager, who has been under investigation for potentially helping Mr. Aven evade sanctions, court records show. It is unclear what checks the government carried out before approving the transactions.
Mr. Fridman and Mr. Aven are described by the British government as “pro-Kremlin oligarchs” who are closely associated with the Russian president, Vladimir V. Putin, an allegation they both deny and are challenging in court. “We are politically neutral businessmen. That is all,” said Mr. Aven, reached by phone in the Hamptons.
LOVE IT!!
You love this? RWNJ are really a breed apart.
Anonymous
07/27/2023 12:03
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Hey look, LOL.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/27/world/europe/uk-russia-sanctions.html
“We will keep increasing the pressure on Putin and cut off funding for the Russian war machine,” the British foreign secretary said last spring as she announced Russian sanctions in the first weeks of the war in Ukraine.
In the months that followed, Britain was quietly more welcoming. It granted the Russian banking tycoon Mikhail Fridman a license to pay for 19 members of staff, including drivers, private chefs, housekeepers and handymen, during the first year of the war, according to documents reviewed by The New York Times and people directly familiar with the licenses. The payment came to 300,000 pounds (almost $400,000) over about ten months. Mr. Fridman also received a roughly £7,000 monthly allowance to cover his family’s basic needs.
Officials permitted his former business partner, Petr Aven, a monthly allowance of £60,000. The majority went to a security company owned by Mr. Aven’s financial manager, who has been under investigation for potentially helping Mr. Aven evade sanctions, court records show. It is unclear what checks the government carried out before approving the transactions.
Mr. Fridman and Mr. Aven are described by the British government as “pro-Kremlin oligarchs” who are closely associated with the Russian president, Vladimir V. Putin, an allegation they both deny and are challenging in court. “We are politically neutral businessmen. That is all,” said Mr. Aven, reached by phone in the Hamptons.
LOVE IT!!
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/27/world/europe/uk-russia-sanctions.html
“We will keep increasing the pressure on Putin and cut off funding for the Russian war machine,” the British foreign secretary said last spring as she announced Russian sanctions in the first weeks of the war in Ukraine.
In the months that followed, Britain was quietly more welcoming. It granted the Russian banking tycoon Mikhail Fridman a license to pay for 19 members of staff, including drivers, private chefs, housekeepers and handymen, during the first year of the war, according to documents reviewed by The New York Times and people directly familiar with the licenses. The payment came to 300,000 pounds (almost $400,000) over about ten months. Mr. Fridman also received a roughly £7,000 monthly allowance to cover his family’s basic needs.
Officials permitted his former business partner, Petr Aven, a monthly allowance of £60,000. The majority went to a security company owned by Mr. Aven’s financial manager, who has been under investigation for potentially helping Mr. Aven evade sanctions, court records show. It is unclear what checks the government carried out before approving the transactions.
Mr. Fridman and Mr. Aven are described by the British government as “pro-Kremlin oligarchs” who are closely associated with the Russian president, Vladimir V. Putin, an allegation they both deny and are challenging in court. “We are politically neutral businessmen. That is all,” said Mr. Aven, reached by phone in the Hamptons.
LOVE IT!!
Anonymous
07/27/2023 12:02
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looks like Ukraine has committed its forces in the southeast. Hopefully there's a breakthrough
Very perplexed by African countries going through with their summit meeting with Putin. Genuinely bizarre. There's no good outcome here.
The US forces things on countries they view as unnatural and wrong. Its pushed a lot of countries into the China/Russia orbit.
💯
The state dept gives lectures
That's the joke in Africa. "From the US, we get lectures. From the Chinese, we get airports."