Anonymous
09/03/2021 22:06
Subject: MCPS will now send kids home for ten days based on symptoms only
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What a bunch of sociopaths.
"If my kid has a cold, I'll just lie and say they had a two-day dentist's appointment."
Brilliant. Much easier than testing them during that two days and confirming it's *actually a cold* and not COVID.
And don't tell me all the people who are planning on lying on this thread are people for whom getting a test at CVS would be an extreme hardship. In addition to the fact that actual working class or poor people are a tiny percentage of the demographic at DCUM, these ridiculous commenters are *already* saying they'd be keeping their kids home, so it's not really more time lost.
Just denial and showing their a$$ just to show it. With Bonus! Potentially endangering others!
"I've already been inconvenienced enough by this global pandemic! WHY WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF ME HAVING TO SPEND ABOUT 2 HOURS OUT OF MY DAY WHEN MY KID IS ALREADY HOME TO ACTUALLY HELP REDUCE IT'S SPREAD??"
And then what do you think will happen, if you lie? If it's COVID or even just a cold and you send the kid, the child will likely get others in their class sick, and since most parents actually give a sh!t-- or at least the kids will be witnessed by teachers!-- your kid's whole class will be quarantined anyway.
Y'all are objecting and twisting yourselves into knots to come up with ridiculous workarounds when the simplest solution is also the safest-- get your kid tested.
(Or get a doctor's note if they truly have a chronic condition).
We're just exposing the flaw Becky.
There's only a flaw if you're a sociopath who likes to make more work for yourself, Susan.
In other words, you are exposing a straw man because your panties are in a twist that COVID exists at all.
This makes no sense. The practical result of this is almost exactly what actually following the CDC exposure and quarantine guidance. Are you suggesting they're sociopathic COVID-deniers?
Your second sentence makes no sense. It's a fragment.
And I'm not suggesting they are deniers, per se-- I'm suggesting most such people who huff and puff on DCUM haven't lost multiple family members to COVID, have been well-protected and mostly just very inconvenienced by COVID and "ready for it to be over." Which we all are, of course. But they are using at least a sprinkling of denial to act like it's closer to over than it is-- because the vast majority of them haven't had to deal with most of the most devastating effects.
The person who said they wouldn't tell their school of a positive COVID test so that the poor exposed kids, some of whom will probably have contracted it from their child, won't have to do a 10-day quarantine?
What do you even say to that?
1) Without knowing they were exposed, as soon as possible, those kids will be more likely to spread it to more people in their community, including immunocompromised and other unvaccinated people, some of whom may die. (I'm not even assuming the kids themselves will be very sick or even get long COVID.)
2) If she keeps it a secret, again, PROBABLY SOME OF THE KIDS WILL GET SICK (from likely having been exposed to the PP's kid before they tested positive) AND THE CLASS WILL HAVE TO QUARANTINE ANYWAY. Just a day or two later, when more people will have been infected. This is how viruses work, FFS.
PP thinks if other people don't see it, it doesn't exist.
It's not the posters fault. It's MCPS for not using the money they have for tests. Pure and simple.
Anonymous
09/03/2021 22:05
Subject: MCPS will now send kids home for ten days based on symptoms only
Anonymous wrote:Also finding it really sort of predictably gross that people are assuming non-native English speakers won't be given directions they can understand and appropriate resources if and when this happens with their child.
I know MCPS can suck in terms of its communication, but at our school at least, there is a tremendous amount of energy put into walking folks through things like this. Not to mention that, for example, Latino vaccination rates are the highest of all groups in MoCo. Lots of immigrants are MORE concerned about public health and more compliant than the typical DCUM demographic.
But I often find rich white folks use inaccurate caricatures of poor people and/or people of color to hide their own personal objections behind.
Well I find it predictably unfair to read it this way. I work at a school and I love the children and families I work with but it’s absolutely true that parents who are brand new to this country take a whole lot longer to fill out forms and follow bureaucratic directions than people who grew up in the American system. Yes, the district will try hard to make all this understandable. But it’s totally to be expected that this could cause delays in communication and testing.
Anonymous
09/03/2021 22:04
Subject: MCPS will now send kids home for ten days based on symptoms only
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So I’m hopeful parents at my school understand what to do here:
(1) kid gets sick not on school hours
(2) KEEP kid home and tell school anything except kid has a covid symptom
(3) get thee to PM pediatrics before 1 pm and procure same day test
(4) get test results (statistically speaking they are going to be negative)
(5) send kid back to school when not sick anymore.
(6) if kid will be out for a few days tell school kid sick but not covid and provide negative test
(7) rest of class is safe
Go forth.
Why wouldn't you tell the school if your child is positive for Covid? Do you understand you are putting lives at risk here? Vaccinated grandparents and other adults whose immunity is waning can DIE because you neglected to trigger a quarantine.
Do you even understand why quarantined are put in place???
When deaths inevitably rise in MoCo, I AM PUTTING THE BLAME ON YOU.
If you're sick or old, you should be more careful. I don't understand why you want to take your anger and fear out on my kids and their fellow classmates.
Stop playing the victim. There are multigenerational families living together. There are parents undergoing chemo. A lot of parents in this area are on the older side. The sick and the old aren't some magical population that you don't know about. Your neighbor, your friend, are likely some of those people. The vulnerable parent here might even be YOU.
Your job is to test after onset of any concerning symptoms and to disclose any positives to the school. That's all we ask. Don't worry your head about whether there's a quarantine and who institutes it. Your duty is to do the first two things. If you sabotage the system, you will elongate the Delta surge and keep everyone under the threat of quarantines for MUCH LONGER. Essentially, you're sabotaging yourself!
Anonymous
09/03/2021 22:04
Subject: MCPS will now send kids home for ten days based on symptoms only
Anonymous wrote:Also finding it really sort of predictably gross that people are assuming non-native English speakers won't be given directions they can understand and appropriate resources if and when this happens with their child.
I know MCPS can suck in terms of its communication, but at our school at least, there is a tremendous amount of energy put into walking folks through things like this. Not to mention that, for example, Latino vaccination rates are the highest of all groups in MoCo. Lots of immigrants are MORE concerned about public health and more compliant than the typical DCUM demographic.
But I often find rich white folks use inaccurate caricatures of poor people and/or people of color to hide their own personal objections behind.
Wait! You think the vaccination rate of Latinos is higher than Asians? That's gunny
Anonymous
09/03/2021 22:02
Subject: MCPS will now send kids home for ten days based on symptoms only
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What a bunch of sociopaths.
"If my kid has a cold, I'll just lie and say they had a two-day dentist's appointment."
Brilliant. Much easier than testing them during that two days and confirming it's *actually a cold* and not COVID.
And don't tell me all the people who are planning on lying on this thread are people for whom getting a test at CVS would be an extreme hardship. In addition to the fact that actual working class or poor people are a tiny percentage of the demographic at DCUM, these ridiculous commenters are *already* saying they'd be keeping their kids home, so it's not really more time lost.
Just denial and showing their a$$ just to show it. With Bonus! Potentially endangering others!
"I've already been inconvenienced enough by this global pandemic! WHY WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF ME HAVING TO SPEND ABOUT 2 HOURS OUT OF MY DAY WHEN MY KID IS ALREADY HOME TO ACTUALLY HELP REDUCE IT'S SPREAD??"
And then what do you think will happen, if you lie? If it's COVID or even just a cold and you send the kid, the child will likely get others in their class sick, and since most parents actually give a sh!t-- or at least the kids will be witnessed by teachers!-- your kid's whole class will be quarantined anyway.
Y'all are objecting and twisting yourselves into knots to come up with ridiculous workarounds when the simplest solution is also the safest-- get your kid tested.
(Or get a doctor's note if they truly have a chronic condition).
We're just exposing the flaw Becky.
There's only a flaw if you're a sociopath who likes to make more work for yourself, Susan.
In other words, you are exposing a straw man because your panties are in a twist that COVID exists at all.
This makes no sense. The practical result of this is almost exactly what actually following the CDC exposure and quarantine guidance. Are you suggesting they're sociopathic COVID-deniers?
Your second sentence makes no sense. It's a fragment.
And I'm not suggesting they are deniers, per se-- I'm suggesting most such people who huff and puff on DCUM haven't lost multiple family members to COVID, have been well-protected and mostly just very inconvenienced by COVID and "ready for it to be over." Which we all are, of course. But they are using at least a sprinkling of denial to act like it's closer to over than it is-- because the vast majority of them haven't had to deal with most of the most devastating effects.
The person who said they wouldn't tell their school of a positive COVID test so that the poor exposed kids, some of whom will probably have contracted it from their child, won't have to do a 10-day quarantine?
What do you even say to that?
1) Without knowing they were exposed, as soon as possible, those kids will be more likely to spread it to more people in their community, including immunocompromised and other unvaccinated people, some of whom may die. (I'm not even assuming the kids themselves will be very sick or even get long COVID.)
2) If she keeps it a secret, again, PROBABLY SOME OF THE KIDS WILL GET SICK (from likely having been exposed to the PP's kid before they tested positive) AND THE CLASS WILL HAVE TO QUARANTINE ANYWAY. Just a day or two later, when more people will have been infected. This is how viruses work, FFS.
PP thinks if other people don't see it, it doesn't exist.
Anonymous
09/03/2021 22:01
Subject: Re:MCPS will now send kids home for ten days based on symptoms only
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The question is why is MCPS releasing this changed policy on the Friday of the first week of school just before a holiday weekend? Why wasn’t this the guidance last week? Do they just want to reinforce that they are a clown show and are indecisive about these arbitrary COVID policies? We pulled from private with more sensible policies. Had I known this is have reconsidered. It’s designed to ensure school is disrupted when a masked kid gets a fever on the playground.
There must be a ton of cases we don't know about for this radical shift after 1 week.
Thanks to this board and conversations between parents from different schools, we know for a fact that no "Covid dashboard" of any local school jurisdiction is remotely accurate. There are multiple cases that are left out.
This means the systems are overwhelmed and so correctly, MCPS changes course to make the system a little safer. Now if it only had the help of parents...
Except MCPS isn't acting in good faith. They said they were going to follow CDC guidance on exposures and quarantines, when it is quite clear that was never their intention. And there are a variety of alternatives they could take that would substantially reduce the negative effects on kids, such as test-to-stay. That they didn't do those alternatives strongly suggests they simply want to shut classrooms down.
If you have an alternative plan you think is better, CONTACT THE BOE AND INTERIM SUPERINTENDANT and tell them! That's what I did with outdoor lunches in mid-August, and by late August, they had a directive sent to Principals to facilitate outdoor lunches. If you write convincingly, they will listen.
That's really funny that you think you're single handedly responsible for outdoor lunch. 🤣
Anonymous
09/03/2021 22:00
Subject: Re:MCPS will now send kids home for ten days based on symptoms only
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The question is why is MCPS releasing this changed policy on the Friday of the first week of school just before a holiday weekend? Why wasn’t this the guidance last week? Do they just want to reinforce that they are a clown show and are indecisive about these arbitrary COVID policies? We pulled from private with more sensible policies. Had I known this is have reconsidered. It’s designed to ensure school is disrupted when a masked kid gets a fever on the playground.
There must be a ton of cases we don't know about for this radical shift after 1 week.
Thanks to this board and conversations between parents from different schools, we know for a fact that no "Covid dashboard" of any local school jurisdiction is remotely accurate. There are multiple cases that are left out.
This means the systems are overwhelmed and so correctly, MCPS changes course to make the system a little safer. Now if it only had the help of parents...
Except MCPS isn't acting in good faith. They said they were going to follow CDC guidance on exposures and quarantines, when it is quite clear that was never their intention. And there are a variety of alternatives they could take that would substantially reduce the negative effects on kids, such as test-to-stay. That they didn't do those alternatives strongly suggests they simply want to shut classrooms down.
If you have an alternative plan you think is better, CONTACT THE BOE AND INTERIM SUPERINTENDANT and tell them! That's what I did with outdoor lunches in mid-August, and by late August, they had a directive sent to Principals to facilitate outdoor lunches. If you write convincingly, they will listen.
Anonymous
09/03/2021 21:59
Subject: MCPS will now send kids home for ten days based on symptoms only
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So I’m hopeful parents at my school understand what to do here:
(1) kid gets sick not on school hours
(2) KEEP kid home and tell school anything except kid has a covid symptom
(3) get thee to PM pediatrics before 1 pm and procure same day test
(4) get test results (statistically speaking they are going to be negative)
(5) send kid back to school when not sick anymore.
(6) if kid will be out for a few days tell school kid sick but not covid and provide negative test
(7) rest of class is safe
Go forth.
Why wouldn't you tell the school if your child is positive for Covid? Do you understand you are putting lives at risk here? Vaccinated grandparents and other adults whose immunity is waning can DIE because you neglected to trigger a quarantine.
Do you even understand why quarantined are put in place???
When deaths inevitably rise in MoCo, I AM PUTTING THE BLAME ON YOU.
If you're sick or old, you should be more careful. I don't understand why you want to take your anger and fear out on my kids and their fellow classmates.
Anonymous
09/03/2021 21:58
Subject: MCPS will now send kids home for ten days based on symptoms only
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So I’m hopeful parents at my school understand what to do here:
(1) kid gets sick not on school hours
(2) KEEP kid home and tell school anything except kid has a covid symptom
(3) get thee to PM pediatrics before 1 pm and procure same day test
(4) get test results (statistically speaking they are going to be negative)
(5) send kid back to school when not sick anymore.
(6) if kid will be out for a few days tell school kid sick but not covid and provide negative test
(7) rest of class is safe
Go forth.
Why wouldn't you tell the school if your child is positive for Covid? Do you understand you are putting lives at risk here? Vaccinated grandparents and other adults whose immunity is waning can DIE because you neglected to trigger a quarantine.
Do you even understand why quarantined are put in place???
When deaths inevitably rise in MoCo, I AM PUTTING THE BLAME ON YOU.
Deaths are not going to rise in MoCo because VACCINES WORK. And children are at LOW RISK. Stop the hysterics.
Anonymous
09/03/2021 21:57
Subject: Re:MCPS will now send kids home for ten days based on symptoms only
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The question is why is MCPS releasing this changed policy on the Friday of the first week of school just before a holiday weekend? Why wasn’t this the guidance last week? Do they just want to reinforce that they are a clown show and are indecisive about these arbitrary COVID policies? We pulled from private with more sensible policies. Had I known this is have reconsidered. It’s designed to ensure school is disrupted when a masked kid gets a fever on the playground.
There must be a ton of cases we don't know about for this radical shift after 1 week.
Thanks to this board and conversations between parents from different schools, we know for a fact that no "Covid dashboard" of any local school jurisdiction is remotely accurate. There are multiple cases that are left out.
This means the systems are overwhelmed and so correctly, MCPS changes course to make the system a little safer. Now if it only had the help of parents...
Except MCPS isn't acting in good faith. They said they were going to follow CDC guidance on exposures and quarantines, when it is quite clear that was never their intention. And there are a variety of alternatives they could take that would substantially reduce the negative effects on kids, such as test-to-stay. That they didn't do those alternatives strongly suggests they simply want to shut classrooms down.
Anonymous
09/03/2021 21:56
Subject: MCPS will now send kids home for ten days based on symptoms only
Anonymous wrote:What a bunch of sociopaths.
"If my kid has a cold, I'll just lie and say they had a two-day dentist's appointment."
Brilliant. Much easier than testing them during that two days and confirming it's *actually a cold* and not COVID.
And don't tell me all the people who are planning on lying on this thread are people for whom getting a test at CVS would be an extreme hardship. In addition to the fact that actual working class or poor people are a tiny percentage of the demographic at DCUM, these ridiculous commenters are *already* saying they'd be keeping their kids home, so it's not really more time lost.
Just denial and showing their a$$ just to show it. With Bonus! Potentially endangering others!
"I've already been inconvenienced enough by this global pandemic! WHY WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF ME HAVING TO SPEND ABOUT 2 HOURS OUT OF MY DAY WHEN MY KID IS ALREADY HOME TO ACTUALLY HELP REDUCE IT'S SPREAD??"
And then what do you think will happen, if you lie? If it's COVID or even just a cold and you send the kid, the child will likely get others in their class sick, and since most parents actually give a sh!t-- or at least the kids will be witnessed by teachers!-- your kid's whole class will be quarantined anyway.
Y'all are objecting and twisting yourselves into knots to come up with ridiculous workarounds when the simplest solution is also the safest-- get your kid tested.
(Or get a doctor's note if they truly have a chronic condition).
People are just tired of COVID, the shifting goal posts, and false hopes. People are tired of the zero risk mentality that kept children out of school for 18 months. I’m not sure what it will take to end the insanity. Even vaccinating children will not be enough. Another false hope.
Anonymous
09/03/2021 21:55
Subject: MCPS will now send kids home for ten days based on symptoms only
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So I’m hopeful parents at my school understand what to do here:
(1) kid gets sick not on school hours
(2) KEEP kid home and tell school anything except kid has a covid symptom
(3) get thee to PM pediatrics before 1 pm and procure same day test
(4) get test results (statistically speaking they are going to be negative)
(5) send kid back to school when not sick anymore.
(6) if kid will be out for a few days tell school kid sick but not covid and provide negative test
(7) rest of class is safe
Go forth.
Yep. Someone finally gets it.
PSA if your employer offers Kaiser they typically return test results within 12 hours, at no extra cost. Open enrollment is coming up.
Not anymore they won't. Kaiser is notoriously slow - they won't keep up with demand and results won't be given in such a short amount of time anymore.
Anonymous
09/03/2021 21:55
Subject: MCPS will now send kids home for ten days based on symptoms only
Anonymous wrote:So I’m hopeful parents at my school understand what to do here:
(1) kid gets sick not on school hours
(2) KEEP kid home and tell school anything except kid has a covid symptom
(3) get thee to PM pediatrics before 1 pm and procure same day test
(4) get test results (statistically speaking they are going to be negative)
(5) send kid back to school when not sick anymore.
(6) if kid will be out for a few days tell school kid sick but not covid and provide negative test
(7) rest of class is safe
Go forth.
Why wouldn't you tell the school if your child is positive for Covid? Do you understand you are putting lives at risk here? Vaccinated grandparents and other adults whose immunity is waning can DIE because you neglected to trigger a quarantine.
Do you even understand why quarantined are put in place???
When deaths inevitably rise in MoCo, I AM PUTTING THE BLAME ON YOU.
Anonymous
09/03/2021 21:52
Subject: MCPS will now send kids home for ten days based on symptoms only
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So I’m hopeful parents at my school understand what to do here:
(1) kid gets sick not on school hours
(2) KEEP kid home and tell school anything except kid has a covid symptom
(3) get thee to PM pediatrics before 1 pm and procure same day test
(4) get test results (statistically speaking they are going to be negative)
(5) send kid back to school when not sick anymore.
(6) if kid will be out for a few days tell school kid sick but not covid and provide negative test
(7) rest of class is safe
Go forth.
Yep. Someone finally gets it.
PSA if your employer offers Kaiser they typically return test results within 12 hours, at no extra cost. Open enrollment is coming up.
Anonymous
09/03/2021 21:51
Subject: MCPS will now send kids home for ten days based on symptoms only
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What a bunch of sociopaths.
"If my kid has a cold, I'll just lie and say they had a two-day dentist's appointment."
Brilliant. Much easier than testing them during that two days and confirming it's *actually a cold* and not COVID.
And don't tell me all the people who are planning on lying on this thread are people for whom getting a test at CVS would be an extreme hardship. In addition to the fact that actual working class or poor people are a tiny percentage of the demographic at DCUM, these ridiculous commenters are *already* saying they'd be keeping their kids home, so it's not really more time lost.
Just denial and showing their a$$ just to show it. With Bonus! Potentially endangering others!
"I've already been inconvenienced enough by this global pandemic! WHY WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF ME HAVING TO SPEND ABOUT 2 HOURS OUT OF MY DAY WHEN MY KID IS ALREADY HOME TO ACTUALLY HELP REDUCE IT'S SPREAD??"
And then what do you think will happen, if you lie? If it's COVID or even just a cold and you send the kid, the child will likely get others in their class sick, and since most parents actually give a sh!t-- or at least the kids will be witnessed by teachers!-- your kid's whole class will be quarantined anyway.
Y'all are objecting and twisting yourselves into knots to come up with ridiculous workarounds when the simplest solution is also the safest-- get your kid tested.
(Or get a doctor's note if they truly have a chronic condition).
We're just exposing the flaw Becky.
There's only a flaw if you're a sociopath who likes to make more work for yourself, Susan.
In other words, you are exposing a straw man because your panties are in a twist that COVID exists at all.
This makes no sense. The practical result of this is almost exactly what actually following the CDC exposure and quarantine guidance. Are you suggesting they're sociopathic COVID-deniers?