Anonymous
Post 09/23/2021 13:05     Subject: 08 Girls

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Anonymous wrote:Barcelona style looks great, Richmond U plays great BUT to be able to play like these teams you need a team full of players that can play at the same speed (timing and skill). When you have only a couple of players that can play this speed it does not work. A teammate will never be on time to receive the pass for example so sync is disrupted. Coaches organize teams based on their players skills that’s their inventory. Use it as best as you can, if that means sending everyone but one player to help defending then do that.


Kids should know where they are going with the ball if they get the ball. Other players should do the same. This is literally one of the few real coachable things that can be accomplished regardless of skill.

The kids in the video know nothing more than blindly sending a ball to space or or holding the ball until they are closed on by a defender before they decide what to do with the ball.

These are things that can be practiced and obviously they are not being taught and haven't been at any level. Kids have been selected based on their attributes and technical skill. Well, when under pressure their technical skill falls apart because they have no understanding of the game beyond a U10 level.

There was no effort to drop the ball backwards in order to keep the ball. Everything is forward or die. The defenders would rather die than switch the field instead of blindly driving the ball forward. These are decisions, and often decision based on fear and lack of trust.

It isn't that these kids can't play a little more possession based they just have not been taught and entrusted to do so when nothing mattered. This is when the truth of when people say "all those U -little medals don't mean anything" come to reality. Parents just don't see the cracks in the foundation while the team is winning and based on the video and the pride in which is was posted they still don't.

You will continue to win because the style is organized chaos. Kick the ball forward and hopefully a big athletic kid wins a 50/50 ball and does something with it. Do that enough times and enough goals will go in. That is what the presented game was.


See this is kick ball. It is blindly kicking the ball long and hoping something good happens. 80% of the time the ball goes to the other team. When you play a team with skill and iq that long ball is back in your final 1/3 after 2-3 passes. This is different from a direct style where players are targeted and the targeted player has to have skill- ie one touch a long ball to her feet.

These ECNL teams are pressure cookers. If you mess up you get benched. So it is much safer(in terms of staying in the field) to clear any ball vs pass backward or switching play in your own end. The players become extremely risk averse…and this is at u14! What do you get at u17?

Finally I do not think any of the Barca girls would make Arlington and none of the Arlington girls would make Barca. These are two totally different ways of playing, coaching abilities and type of players. The Barca girls in that video are playing a very complex interchangeable position game. Anyone on the field is expected to go forward and the formation shifts to cover. So in 10 minutes you could play 3 different formations. This is not the dumb down soccer being taught and played here.


This is all true and unfortunately the Arlington parents will think that this is just a jealousy dig at their club and the truth is, this isn't about their club or their kids at all. This "style" is commonly sold as development because it does have success when the right attributes in players are identified and selected. The parents take the "wins" as confirmation that it is in fact working.

Parents tend to get very defensive when the style of play is attacked and offer no other real rational other than "we won".
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2021 12:54     Subject: 08 Girls

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Barcelona style looks great, Richmond U plays great BUT to be able to play like these teams you need a team full of players that can play at the same speed (timing and skill). When you have only a couple of players that can play this speed it does not work. A teammate will never be on time to receive the pass for example so sync is disrupted. Coaches organize teams based on their players skills that’s their inventory. Use it as best as you can, if that means sending everyone but one player to help defending then do that.


Kids should know where they are going with the ball if they get the ball. Other players should do the same. This is literally one of the few real coachable things that can be accomplished regardless of skill.

The kids in the video know nothing more than blindly sending a ball to space or or holding the ball until they are closed on by a defender before they decide what to do with the ball.

These are things that can be practiced and obviously they are not being taught and haven't been at any level. Kids have been selected based on their attributes and technical skill. Well, when under pressure their technical skill falls apart because they have no understanding of the game beyond a U10 level.

There was no effort to drop the ball backwards in order to keep the ball. Everything is forward or die. The defenders would rather die than switch the field instead of blindly driving the ball forward. These are decisions, and often decision based on fear and lack of trust.

It isn't that these kids can't play a little more possession based they just have not been taught and entrusted to do so when nothing mattered. This is when the truth of when people say "all those U -little medals don't mean anything" come to reality. Parents just don't see the cracks in the foundation while the team is winning and based on the video and the pride in which is was posted they still don't.

You will continue to win because the style is organized chaos. Kick the ball forward and hopefully a big athletic kid wins a 50/50 ball and does something with it. Do that enough times and enough goals will go in. That is what the presented game was.


See this is kick ball. It is blindly kicking the ball long and hoping something good happens. 80% of the time the ball goes to the other team. When you play a team with skill and iq that long ball is back in your final 1/3 after 2-3 passes. This is different from a direct style where players are targeted and the targeted player has to have skill- ie one touch a long ball to her feet.

These ECNL teams are pressure cookers. If you mess up you get benched. So it is much safer(in terms of staying in the field) to clear any ball vs pass backward or switching play in your own end. The players become extremely risk averse…and this is at u14! What do you get at u17?

Finally I do not think any of the Barca girls would make Arlington and none of the Arlington girls would make Barca. These are two totally different ways of playing, coaching abilities and type of players. The Barca girls in that video are playing a very complex interchangeable position game. Anyone on the field is expected to go forward and the formation shifts to cover. So in 10 minutes you could play 3 different formations. This is not the dumb down soccer being taught and played here.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2021 10:41     Subject: 08 Girls

Anonymous wrote:Barcelona style looks great, Richmond U plays great BUT to be able to play like these teams you need a team full of players that can play at the same speed (timing and skill). When you have only a couple of players that can play this speed it does not work. A teammate will never be on time to receive the pass for example so sync is disrupted. Coaches organize teams based on their players skills that’s their inventory. Use it as best as you can, if that means sending everyone but one player to help defending then do that.


Kids should know where they are going with the ball if they get the ball. Other players should do the same. This is literally one of the few real coachable things that can be accomplished regardless of skill.

The kids in the video know nothing more than blindly sending a ball to space or or holding the ball until they are closed on by a defender before they decide what to do with the ball.

These are things that can be practiced and obviously they are not being taught and haven't been at any level. Kids have been selected based on their attributes and technical skill. Well, when under pressure their technical skill falls apart because they have no understanding of the game beyond a U10 level.

There was no effort to drop the ball backwards in order to keep the ball. Everything is forward or die. The defenders would rather die than switch the field instead of blindly driving the ball forward. These are decisions, and often decision based on fear and lack of trust.

It isn't that these kids can't play a little more possession based they just have not been taught and entrusted to do so when nothing mattered. This is when the truth of when people say "all those U -little medals don't mean anything" come to reality. Parents just don't see the cracks in the foundation while the team is winning and based on the video and the pride in which is was posted they still don't.

You will continue to win because the style is organized chaos. Kick the ball forward and hopefully a big athletic kid wins a 50/50 ball and does something with it. Do that enough times and enough goals will go in. That is what the presented game was.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2021 10:31     Subject: 08 Girls

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Barcelona style looks great, Richmond U plays great BUT to be able to play like these teams you need a team full of players that can play at the same speed (timing and skill). When you have only a couple of players that can play this speed it does not work. A teammate will never be on time to receive the pass for example so sync is disrupted. Coaches organize teams based on their players skills that’s their inventory. Use it as best as you can, if that means sending everyone but one player to help defending then do that.


Not really the point but you are making the point that essentially Arlington is not and will never be particularly good.

That said, nobody is really asking that Arlington be able to move the ball around the way Barcelona but Barcelona did play PDA which implies that there are opportunities to compete against clubs like Barca and the expectation that a ECNL team should be able to connect 4 friggin passes should not be such a huge undertaking.

I mean do you all seriously hear yourselves? Connect four friggin passes fairly regularly should not be a moon shot for ANY ECNL team.


What team do you coach?
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2021 10:24     Subject: 08 Girls

Anonymous wrote:Barcelona style looks great, Richmond U plays great BUT to be able to play like these teams you need a team full of players that can play at the same speed (timing and skill). When you have only a couple of players that can play this speed it does not work. A teammate will never be on time to receive the pass for example so sync is disrupted. Coaches organize teams based on their players skills that’s their inventory. Use it as best as you can, if that means sending everyone but one player to help defending then do that.


Not really the point but you are making the point that essentially Arlington is not and will never be particularly good.

That said, nobody is really asking that Arlington be able to move the ball around the way Barcelona but Barcelona did play PDA which implies that there are opportunities to compete against clubs like Barca and the expectation that a ECNL team should be able to connect 4 friggin passes should not be such a huge undertaking.

I mean do you all seriously hear yourselves? Connect four friggin passes fairly regularly should not be a moon shot for ANY ECNL team.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2021 10:14     Subject: 08 Girls

Barcelona style looks great, Richmond U plays great BUT to be able to play like these teams you need a team full of players that can play at the same speed (timing and skill). When you have only a couple of players that can play this speed it does not work. A teammate will never be on time to receive the pass for example so sync is disrupted. Coaches organize teams based on their players skills that’s their inventory. Use it as best as you can, if that means sending everyone but one player to help defending then do that.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2021 07:44     Subject: 08 Girls

Anonymous wrote:step 1. get all the best players in southern California on one team.

step 2. win every game and have no real competition.


So if you can’t be Barcelona or get a team loaded with YNT players there is no hope to connect 4 passes? That is what you really believe it takes to connect 4 passes multiple times a game?

You are worse than the film suggests then because you can’t even conceive that it is even possible.

Good grief.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2021 07:33     Subject: 08 Girls

This clearly show Richmond Utd is the better team passing the ball.

Maybe too much on the back. (Arlington 08, that is your chance to defeat them, the center back likes to dribble ! )

CESA vs Richmond Utd ECNL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHY-MRhNjaE

I like this guy Chad, wish he has another daughter of 2010.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2021 07:25     Subject: Re:08 Girls

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Anonymous wrote:Remember this? These are u13/u14 playing PDA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN94aS0q0To


What’s your point?


My guess is, the point is this is what a good soccer team looks like.


PDA isn’t good because Barcelona is a better team?


Watch the PDA/Barca game and tell us all which team you would rather have your kid play on.

Then watch that Arlington game and try and tell us that it resembled soccer in any way shape or form.


That doesn’t make you right—you only are right in your own head. No, you’re just arrogant with a tinge of entitlement.

“Resembles soccer”. Typical DCUM arrogance that reveals ignorance. Anything that takes place on the pitch that is within the laws of the game is soccer and therefore resembles it.


I guess I’d rather be arrogant and right than ignorant and wrong.



Entitlement is expecting ECNL level players to connect passes?

I mean you did use “pitch” earlier so you are probably right.

Sorry mom but that game looked bad.


Connect passes or play like Barcelona?


Why are you thinking that only Barcelona girls can connect passes? Here's an example of an American U14 ECNL team from 8 years ago that connected passes and played nice possession style. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uxEJa2foNg


I’m sure this was a good team. But this video is cherry picked highlights. A 30 second clip of connecting passes against a possible poor opponent or brief moment in a game doesn’t show everything. How did the possession hold up under pressure against a fast team? Do you have video of an entire game?
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 23:32     Subject: 08 Girls

step 1. get all the best players in southern California on one team.

step 2. win every game and have no real competition.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 23:24     Subject: 08 Girls

didnt this team have several national team players who all went to stanford?
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 23:07     Subject: Re:08 Girls

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Anonymous wrote:Remember this? These are u13/u14 playing PDA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN94aS0q0To


What’s your point?


My guess is, the point is this is what a good soccer team looks like.


PDA isn’t good because Barcelona is a better team?


Watch the PDA/Barca game and tell us all which team you would rather have your kid play on.

Then watch that Arlington game and try and tell us that it resembled soccer in any way shape or form.


That doesn’t make you right—you only are right in your own head. No, you’re just arrogant with a tinge of entitlement.

“Resembles soccer”. Typical DCUM arrogance that reveals ignorance. Anything that takes place on the pitch that is within the laws of the game is soccer and therefore resembles it.


I guess I’d rather be arrogant and right than ignorant and wrong.



Entitlement is expecting ECNL level players to connect passes?

I mean you did use “pitch” earlier so you are probably right.

Sorry mom but that game looked bad.


Connect passes or play like Barcelona?


Why are you thinking that only Barcelona girls can connect passes? Here's an example of an American U14 ECNL team from 8 years ago that connected passes and played nice possession style. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uxEJa2foNg
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 21:32     Subject: Re:08 Girls

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Anonymous wrote:Remember this? These are u13/u14 playing PDA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN94aS0q0To


What’s your point?


My guess is, the point is this is what a good soccer team looks like.


PDA isn’t good because Barcelona is a better team?


Watch the PDA/Barca game and tell us all which team you would rather have your kid play on.

Then watch that Arlington game and try and tell us that it resembled soccer in any way shape or form.


That doesn’t make you right—you only are right in your own head. No, you’re just arrogant with a tinge of entitlement.

“Resembles soccer”. Typical DCUM arrogance that reveals ignorance. Anything that takes place on the pitch that is within the laws of the game is soccer and therefore resembles it.


I guess I’d rather be arrogant and right than ignorant and wrong.



Entitlement is expecting ECNL level players to connect passes?

I mean you did use “pitch” earlier so you are probably right.

Sorry mom but that game looked bad.


Connect passes or play like Barcelona?
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 20:43     Subject: 08 Girls

the coaching staff doesn't want you to realize that this isn't good soccer. the league patch is all that matters.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 20:30     Subject: Re:08 Girls

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Anonymous wrote:Remember this? These are u13/u14 playing PDA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN94aS0q0To


What’s your point?


My guess is, the point is this is what a good soccer team looks like.


PDA isn’t good because Barcelona is a better team?


Watch the PDA/Barca game and tell us all which team you would rather have your kid play on.

Then watch that Arlington game and try and tell us that it resembled soccer in any way shape or form.


That doesn’t make you right—you only are right in your own head. No, you’re just arrogant with a tinge of entitlement.

“Resembles soccer”. Typical DCUM arrogance that reveals ignorance. Anything that takes place on the pitch that is within the laws of the game is soccer and therefore resembles it.


I guess I’d rather be arrogant and right than ignorant and wrong.



Entitlement is expecting ECNL level players to connect passes?

I mean you did use “pitch” earlier so you are probably right.

Sorry mom but that game looked bad.