Anonymous
Post 08/22/2021 14:56     Subject: BRYC talk
Anonymous wrote:So McLeans breaks the rules?
Of course McLean does this. This is the only way their older girls teams ever get competitive: they feast off players that BRYC and other clubs develop who teach them how to play off the ball so that McLean doesn’t have to. It’s been going on for 25-30 years.


Parents will go where they feel is best for their kid, Soccer is expensive and if I am paying 5-6k I want the best training possible.
If that’s with FCV/Mclean/VDA/Arlington you make it work. You sign a 1 year agreement with a club every year.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2021 14:51     Subject: BRYC talk
Anonymous wrote:So McLeans breaks the rules?
Of course McLean does this. This is the only way their older girls teams ever get competitive: they feast off players that BRYC and other clubs develop who teach them how to play off the ball so that McLean doesn’t have to. It’s been going on for 25-30 years.


Only breaking the rules if players tryout before May 1st
ECNL has pretty relaxed rules when it comes to recruiting, they want the best teams possible.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2021 14:47     Subject: BRYC talk
So McLeans breaks the rules?
Of course McLean does this. This is the only way their older girls teams ever get competitive: they feast off players that BRYC and other clubs develop who teach them how to play off the ball so that McLean doesn’t have to. It’s been going on for 25-30 years.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2021 14:44     Subject: BRYC talk
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Anonymous wrote:Coaches on girls side largely the same. TD left for greener pastures at VDA two years ago and the new TD is not getting the same results. Some of the best players followed to VDA and have not been replaced with players of the same caliber. So it’s hard to see how things are getting so much better but we will see what happens come fall.


Followed or recruited. Let’s open that bag!


Clubs do not own players, they can leave in the off season if they want!



You are right VDA coach. But it is against ECNL rules for coaches to contact parents or players during the year to persuade them to come to their club.


Youre either a mad BRYC’er and a mad Mckean’er.

If you want to open the bag, first open the FCV bag



FCV is not ECNL, but thank you for opening the bag.

VDAs TD calling players parents telling them not to bother having their DD come to try outs because there will be no room with the new talent.


The only rule in place is tryout after May 1st, every ecnl club in the country recruits, we have 5+ kids join our McLean team every year
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2021 13:20     Subject: BRYC talk
Anonymous wrote:Most parents don’t care about winning at U12. If however a team loses every game at U16 that is not evidence of any development happening. A team that is developing wins some and loses some but not in a disproportionate fashion year after year.


But some do care about it at U12 and younger, and those probably are the ones who leave.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2021 13:17     Subject: BRYC talk
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Anonymous wrote:Coaches on girls side largely the same. TD left for greener pastures at VDA two years ago and the new TD is not getting the same results. Some of the best players followed to VDA and have not been replaced with players of the same caliber. So it’s hard to see how things are getting so much better but we will see what happens come fall.


Followed or recruited. Let’s open that bag!


Clubs do not own players, they can leave in the off season if they want!



You are right VDA coach. But it is against ECNL rules for coaches to contact parents or players during the year to persuade them to come to their club.


Youre either a mad BRYC’er and a mad Mckean’er.

If you want to open the bag, first open the FCV bag



FCV is not ECNL, but thank you for opening the bag.

VDAs TD calling players parents telling them not to bother having their DD come to try outs because there will be no room with the new talent.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2021 12:39     Subject: BRYC talk
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most parents don’t care about winning at U12. If however a team loses every game at U16 that is not evidence of any development happening. A team that is developing wins some and loses some but not in a disproportionate fashion year after year.


What about winning at U13 in ECNL? Because BRYC's U13 ECNL girls team lost 5-0 to Loudoun Red 09G team, and then followed that up by losing 1-0 to Loudoun 2010G Pre-ECNL team. Looks like another long season for Girls ECNL.


ECNL does not count u13 results towards overall club standings. Also does not matter
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2021 12:30     Subject: BRYC talk
Anonymous wrote:Most parents don’t care about winning at U12. If however a team loses every game at U16 that is not evidence of any development happening. A team that is developing wins some and loses some but not in a disproportionate fashion year after year.


What about winning at U13 in ECNL? Because BRYC's U13 ECNL girls team lost 5-0 to Loudoun Red 09G team, and then followed that up by losing 1-0 to Loudoun 2010G Pre-ECNL team. Looks like another long season for Girls ECNL.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2021 11:30     Subject: BRYC talk
Most parents don’t care about winning at U12. If however a team loses every game at U16 that is not evidence of any development happening. A team that is developing wins some and loses some but not in a disproportionate fashion year after year.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2021 11:27     Subject: BRYC talk
Anonymous wrote:If BRYC was doing everything right and creating the best training environment for success then players wouldn’t want to leave in the first place.

You can say that about any club. And you could also say this about parents have any club two, and that is some parents honestly only care about winning, and they cannot understand what development looks like. They confuse winning with development.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2021 11:24     Subject: BRYC talk
If BRYC was doing everything right and creating the best training environment for success then players wouldn’t want to leave in the first place.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2021 11:18     Subject: BRYC talk
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Coaches on girls side largely the same. TD left for greener pastures at VDA two years ago and the new TD is not getting the same results. Some of the best players followed to VDA and have not been replaced with players of the same caliber. So it’s hard to see how things are getting so much better but we will see what happens come fall.


Followed or recruited. Let’s open that bag!


Clubs do not own players, they can leave in the off season if they want!



You are right VDA coach. But it is against ECNL rules for coaches to contact parents or players during the year to persuade them to come to their club.


Youre either a mad BRYC’er and a mad Mckean’er.

If you want to open the bag, first open the FCV bag
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2021 11:13     Subject: BRYC talk
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Anonymous wrote:I don't see much change happening on the girls side... BRYC isn't attracting talent from anywhere. Plus, it's mismanaging the talent it does have by playing outdated styles of play.


Look at U9-U12. Not outdated—hyper emphasis on where to move off the ball to maintain 2-3 passing options for teammates. That will never be outdated.


Thank coach!
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2021 10:36     Subject: BRYC talk
Anonymous wrote:I don't see much change happening on the girls side... BRYC isn't attracting talent from anywhere. Plus, it's mismanaging the talent it does have by playing outdated styles of play.


Look at U9-U12. Not outdated—hyper emphasis on where to move off the ball to maintain 2-3 passing options for teammates. That will never be outdated.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2021 07:11     Subject: BRYC talk
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Coaches on girls side largely the same. TD left for greener pastures at VDA two years ago and the new TD is not getting the same results. Some of the best players followed to VDA and have not been replaced with players of the same caliber. So it’s hard to see how things are getting so much better but we will see what happens come fall.


Followed or recruited. Let’s open that bag!


Clubs do not own players, they can leave in the off season if they want!



You are right VDA coach. But it is against ECNL rules for coaches to contact parents or players during the year to persuade them to come to their club.