Anonymous wrote:I have twin boys and both just graduated in CS, one from CMU and the other from VT. The CMU graduate is working for IBM with a salary of 95K/yr while the VT is working for Amazon with a salary of 125K/yr. The VT son has no student loan debt while the CMU son has 50K in student debt.

CMU might be good for some people but certainly not my kid.

Did both of your boys put the same effort into their job searches? Did the CMU kid limit himself in some way like what areas of CS he would be willing to work in or what location he would move to?

There are always a range of outcomes possible graduating from a particular school. I am frankly surprised surprised to hear that a CS graduate from CMU did not receive better offers. It’s an amazingly strong school in CS.

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Anonymous wrote:I have twin boys and both just graduated in CS, one from CMU and the other from VT. The CMU graduate is working for IBM with a salary of 95K/yr while the VT is working for Amazon with a salary of 125K/yr. The VT son has no student loan debt while the CMU son has 50K in student debt.

CMU might be good for some people but certainly not my kid.

I'm assuming your VT kid was among the top 10% of his class and your CMU kid was in the bottom 50% to have outcomes like this. It's also possible that the IBM kid chose the IBM job because it aligned more closely with his interests (e.g. quantum computing).

NO. My CMU kid was among the top 30% of his class. My VT kid was among the top 25% of his class. My CMU kid just realized that he could get a good education from VT with no debt instead of CMU with debt. 50K student debt is a lot of money.

VT salary outcome in CS: 25th percentile: $80000 Median: $90000 75th percentile: $110000
https://fds.career.vt.edu/Salary/Details?cohort=2019-2020&dispmajor=Y


CMU salary outcome in CS: Average $116,526 Median $115,000 Range: $26K-$200,000K
https://www.cmu.edu/career/about-us/salaries-and-destinations/post-grad-dashboard-updated.html

Only $90,000 at Virginia Tech? Oh woe is me! Those poor graduates, forced to subsist on food stamps.

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Anonymous wrote:I have twin boys and both just graduated in CS, one from CMU and the other from VT. The CMU graduate is working for IBM with a salary of 95K/yr while the VT is working for Amazon with a salary of 125K/yr. The VT son has no student loan debt while the CMU son has 50K in student debt.

CMU might be good for some people but certainly not my kid.

I'm assuming your VT kid was among the top 10% of his class and your CMU kid was in the bottom 50% to have outcomes like this. It's also possible that the IBM kid chose the IBM job because it aligned more closely with his interests (e.g. quantum computing).

NO. My CMU kid was among the top 30% of his class. My VT kid was among the top 25% of his class. My CMU kid just realized that he could get a good education from VT with no debt instead of CMU with debt. 50K student debt is a lot of money.

VT salary outcome in CS: 25th percentile: $80000 Median: $90000 75th percentile: $110000
https://fds.career.vt.edu/Salary/Details?cohort=2019-2020&dispmajor=Y


CMU salary outcome in CS: Average $116,526 Median $115,000 Range: $26K-$200,000K
https://www.cmu.edu/career/about-us/salaries-and-destinations/post-grad-dashboard-updated.html

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Anonymous wrote:I have twin boys and both just graduated in CS, one from CMU and the other from VT. The CMU graduate is working for IBM with a salary of 95K/yr while the VT is working for Amazon with a salary of 125K/yr. The VT son has no student loan debt while the CMU son has 50K in student debt.

CMU might be good for some people but certainly not my kid.

I'm assuming your VT kid was among the top 10% of his class and your CMU kid was in the bottom 50% to have outcomes like this. It's also possible that the IBM kid chose the IBM job because it aligned more closely with his interests (e.g. quantum computing).

NO. My CMU kid was among the top 30% of his class. My VT kid was among the top 25% of his class. My CMU kid just realized that he could get a good education from VT with no debt instead of CMU with debt. 50K student debt is a lot of money.

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Anonymous wrote:I have twin boys and both just graduated in CS, one from CMU and the other from VT. The CMU graduate is working for IBM with a salary of 95K/yr while the VT is working for Amazon with a salary of 125K/yr. The VT son has no student loan debt while the CMU son has 50K in student debt.

CMU might be good for some people but certainly not my kid.

A starting salary of $95K seems pretty good

Do you know what the attrition rate is at amazon? Jeff Bezos, the billionaire who needs money more than you do, doesn’t believe in employee bathroom breaks. They use bottles to pee.

You are confusing warehouse workers with programmers.. I can bet that no CS grad working for Amazon is peeing in a bottle.

Yes, why would anyone go work for a guy that behaves as if he needs your money more than you do? Do you feel any better that a CS grad doesn’t have to pee the same way the hourly warehouse employees do?

Woke socialism invades DCUM!

Lol, why do you think Amazon IT people don’t last long there? There are other tech companies out there for those with options.

"IT people"

What? Like network administrators? Desktop management?

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Anonymous wrote:I have twin boys and both just graduated in CS, one from CMU and the other from VT. The CMU graduate is working for IBM with a salary of 95K/yr while the VT is working for Amazon with a salary of 125K/yr. The VT son has no student loan debt while the CMU son has 50K in student debt.

CMU might be good for some people but certainly not my kid.

A starting salary of $95K seems pretty good

Do you know what the attrition rate is at amazon? Jeff Bezos, the billionaire who needs money more than you do, doesn’t believe in employee bathroom breaks. They use bottles to pee.

You are confusing warehouse workers with programmers.. I can bet that no CS grad working for Amazon is peeing in a bottle.

Yes, why would anyone go work for a guy that behaves as if he needs your money more than you do? Do you feel any better that a CS grad doesn’t have to pee the same way the hourly warehouse employees do?

Woke socialism invades DCUM!

Lol, why do you think Amazon IT people don’t last long there? There are other tech companies out there for those with options.

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Anonymous wrote:I have twin boys and both just graduated in CS, one from CMU and the other from VT. The CMU graduate is working for IBM with a salary of 95K/yr while the VT is working for Amazon with a salary of 125K/yr. The VT son has no student loan debt while the CMU son has 50K in student debt.

CMU might be good for some people but certainly not my kid.

A starting salary of $95K seems pretty good

Do you know what the attrition rate is at amazon? Jeff Bezos, the billionaire who needs money more than you do, doesn’t believe in employee bathroom breaks. They use bottles to pee.

You are confusing warehouse workers with programmers.. I can bet that no CS grad working for Amazon is peeing in a bottle.

Yes, why would anyone go work for a guy that behaves as if he needs your money more than you do? Do you feel any better that a CS grad doesn’t have to pee the same way the hourly warehouse employees do?

Woke socialism invades DCUM!

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Anonymous wrote:I have twin boys and both just graduated in CS, one from CMU and the other from VT. The CMU graduate is working for IBM with a salary of 95K/yr while the VT is working for Amazon with a salary of 125K/yr. The VT son has no student loan debt while the CMU son has 50K in student debt.

CMU might be good for some people but certainly not my kid.

A starting salary of $95K seems pretty good

Do you know what the attrition rate is at amazon? Jeff Bezos, the billionaire who needs money more than you do, doesn’t believe in employee bathroom breaks. They use bottles to pee.

You are confusing warehouse workers with programmers.. I can bet that no CS grad working for Amazon is peeing in a bottle.

Yes, why would anyone go work for a guy that behaves as if he needs your money more than you do? Do you feel any better that a CS grad doesn’t have to pee the same way the hourly warehouse employees do?

Are you trying to make me feel guilty? If you feel so bad about this treatment why don't you stop shopping at Amazon, not own any amazon stock, and not invest in the S&P 500 (directly and through your retirement plans which tend to own index funds. GTFO!

Many graduates from UC Berkeley CS Ph.D. program did many years of post-doctoral at salary lower than $95k because they love research.

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Anonymous wrote:I have twin boys and both just graduated in CS, one from CMU and the other from VT. The CMU graduate is working for IBM with a salary of 95K/yr while the VT is working for Amazon with a salary of 125K/yr. The VT son has no student loan debt while the CMU son has 50K in student debt.

CMU might be good for some people but certainly not my kid.

A starting salary of $95K seems pretty good

Do you know what the attrition rate is at amazon? Jeff Bezos, the billionaire who needs money more than you do, doesn’t believe in employee bathroom breaks. They use bottles to pee.

You are confusing warehouse workers with programmers.. I can bet that no CS grad working for Amazon is peeing in a bottle.

Yes, why would anyone go work for a guy that behaves as if he needs your money more than you do? Do you feel any better that a CS grad doesn’t have to pee the same way the hourly warehouse employees do?

Anonymous wrote:I have twin boys and both just graduated in CS, one from CMU and the other from VT. The CMU graduate is working for IBM with a salary of 95K/yr while the VT is working for Amazon with a salary of 125K/yr. The VT son has no student loan debt while the CMU son has 50K in student debt.

CMU might be good for some people but certainly not my kid.

I'm assuming your VT kid was among the top 10% of his class and your CMU kid was in the bottom 50% to have outcomes like this. It's also possible that the IBM kid chose the IBM job because it aligned more closely with his interests (e.g. quantum computing).

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Anonymous wrote:I have twin boys and both just graduated in CS, one from CMU and the other from VT. The CMU graduate is working for IBM with a salary of 95K/yr while the VT is working for Amazon with a salary of 125K/yr. The VT son has no student loan debt while the CMU son has 50K in student debt.

CMU might be good for some people but certainly not my kid.

A starting salary of $95K seems pretty good

Do you know what the attrition rate is at amazon? Jeff Bezos, the billionaire who needs money more than you do, doesn’t believe in employee bathroom breaks. They use bottles to pee.

You are confusing warehouse workers with programmers.. I can bet that no CS grad working for Amazon is peeing in a bottle.

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Anonymous wrote:I have twin boys and both just graduated in CS, one from CMU and the other from VT. The CMU graduate is working for IBM with a salary of 95K/yr while the VT is working for Amazon with a salary of 125K/yr. The VT son has no student loan debt while the CMU son has 50K in student debt.

CMU might be good for some people but certainly not my kid.

A starting salary of $95K seems pretty good

Do you know what the attrition rate is at amazon? Jeff Bezos, the billionaire who needs money more than you do, doesn’t believe in employee bathroom breaks. They use bottles to pee.

Anonymous wrote:I have twin boys and both just graduated in CS, one from CMU and the other from VT. The CMU graduate is working for IBM with a salary of 95K/yr while the VT is working for Amazon with a salary of 125K/yr. The VT son has no student loan debt while the CMU son has 50K in student debt.

CMU might be good for some people but certainly not my kid.

But...but...Virginia Tech is only in the top 35! Nowhere near being good enough. Your Va Tech son might as well have gone to 12-week coding school! And Amazon? Sure, they're a digital juggernaut doing all sorts of innovative things. They're a solid gold name that opens career doors. But really, such a step down from working at Jane Street. THAT'S where the real digital innovation is.

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Anonymous wrote:I have twin boys and both just graduated in CS, one from CMU and the other from VT. The CMU graduate is working for IBM with a salary of 95K/yr while the VT is working for Amazon with a salary of 125K/yr. The VT son has no student loan debt while the CMU son has 50K in student debt.

CMU might be good for some people but certainly not my kid.

A starting salary of $95K seems pretty good