Anonymous wrote:Rich and privileged people: “ just let the thieves take your car/phone/wallet/money, etc. Your safety is all that matters...”

Other people, especially someone who’s driving for Uber eats as an income: “I can’t let these kids take my car, I will never get it back. My insurance won’t cover this. There goes my job, there goes my income, what will I do? I can’t replace this. I can’t get another job, especially without the car. I can’t afford this. I can’t let this happen. My family is depending on me.”

Think outside your bubble. Sure, NBD for rich people to just “hand it over”. SMH.

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Anonymous wrote:So conservatives who did NOT think the Atlanta shootings were racially motivated, now believe this crime was racially motivated?

Whether in a mental institution or prison, whether behavior is result of mental illness or sociopath, all 3 and the Colorado shooter should be held accountable--as should all who commit horrific crimes.

Sure. But my point is that conservatives are angling this as a hate crime against a South Asian man by two black girls but they refused to consider the Atlanta shootings a hate crime.

Maybe these teen girls were having a bad day or bad year because of the pandemic.

PP here. We don't know if either/both are hate crimes or nor, but I'll agree that both situations require significant consequences. Personally, I think it's possible that neither situation is a "hate crime."

They're juveniles and their intent was to steal a car, not kill a man. It's vehicular manslaughter and they are already cooperating for a lighter sentence. They should be out before 30.

Sweet teens with a taser trying to carjack an elderly gentleman. Nice.

I doubt this qualifies as a hate crime HOWEVER I wouldn’t be surprised if the victim was targeted and picked partially because of his race/age. I don’t think him being an older Pakistani man is irrelevant.

May he Rest In Peace.

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Anonymous wrote:So conservatives who did NOT think the Atlanta shootings were racially motivated, now believe this crime was racially motivated?

Whether in a mental institution or prison, whether behavior is result of mental illness or sociopath, all 3 and the Colorado shooter should be held accountable--as should all who commit horrific crimes.

Sure. But my point is that conservatives are angling this as a hate crime against a South Asian man by two black girls but they refused to consider the Atlanta shootings a hate crime.

Maybe these teen girls were having a bad day or bad year because of the pandemic.

PP here. We don't know if either/both are hate crimes or nor, but I'll agree that both situations require significant consequences. Personally, I think it's possible that neither situation is a "hate crime."

They're juveniles and their intent was to steal a car, not kill a man. It's vehicular manslaughter and they are already cooperating for a lighter sentence. They should be out before 30.

It was felony murder.

There's no way they're pleading guilty to felony murder. Any decent lawyer will get it down.

with it all on video tape? hopefully the prosecutor will have more of a spine. they need to go away for the max, whatever that is for juveniles.

Neither is getting the max. They are young teenagers who are capable of remediation if they take it seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:So conservatives who did NOT think the Atlanta shootings were racially motivated, now believe this crime was racially motivated?

Whether in a mental institution or prison, whether behavior is result of mental illness or sociopath, all 3 and the Colorado shooter should be held accountable--as should all who commit horrific crimes.

Sure. But my point is that conservatives are angling this as a hate crime against a South Asian man by two black girls but they refused to consider the Atlanta shootings a hate crime.

Maybe these teen girls were having a bad day or bad year because of the pandemic.

PP here. We don't know if either/both are hate crimes or nor, but I'll agree that both situations require significant consequences. Personally, I think it's possible that neither situation is a "hate crime."

They're juveniles and their intent was to steal a car, not kill a man. It's vehicular manslaughter and they are already cooperating for a lighter sentence. They should be out before 30.

It was felony murder.

There's no way they're pleading guilty to felony murder. Any decent lawyer will get it down.

with it all on video tape? hopefully the prosecutor will have more of a spine. they need to go away for the max, whatever that is for juveniles.

Agreed. I’m so angry for this man and his family. These two girls can rot in jail. I hope they don’t see the light of day. I don’t care what their circumstances. No circumstance justifies murdering an innocent man and breaking a family for life

He probably didn’t think a 13 year old was going to steal the car.

I was in the middle of a school shooting in the 90s. You’d be very surprised how people act in these scenarios. The people who you don’t think will panic do and vice versa. It’s easy to pass judgment here on Mr. Anwar because he didn’t follow the instructions of a 13 and 15 year old but you weren’t there and have no idea what you would do. I surprised myself when I saw the shooting and was trapped by my sense of calm (and I am a high strung person). The guy next to me freaked and wet himself.

I wish he had moved away from the car, but he didn’t. He beats zero responsibility for what happened.

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Anonymous wrote:So conservatives who did NOT think the Atlanta shootings were racially motivated, now believe this crime was racially motivated?

Whether in a mental institution or prison, whether behavior is result of mental illness or sociopath, all 3 and the Colorado shooter should be held accountable--as should all who commit horrific crimes.

Sure. But my point is that conservatives are angling this as a hate crime against a South Asian man by two black girls but they refused to consider the Atlanta shootings a hate crime.

Maybe these teen girls were having a bad day or bad year because of the pandemic.

PP here. We don't know if either/both are hate crimes or nor, but I'll agree that both situations require significant consequences. Personally, I think it's possible that neither situation is a "hate crime."

They're juveniles and their intent was to steal a car, not kill a man. It's vehicular manslaughter and they are already cooperating for a lighter sentence. They should be out before 30.

It was felony murder.

There's no way they're pleading guilty to felony murder. Any decent lawyer will get it down.

with it all on video tape? hopefully the prosecutor will have more of a spine. they need to go away for the max, whatever that is for juveniles.

Anonymous wrote:Rich and privileged people: “ just let the thieves take your car/phone/wallet/money, etc. Your safety is all that matters...”

Other people, especially someone who’s driving for Uber eats as an income: “I can’t let these kids take my car, I will never get it back. My insurance won’t cover this. There goes my job, there goes my income, what will I do? I can’t replace this. I can’t get another job, especially without the car. I can’t afford this. I can’t let this happen. My family is depending on me.”

Think outside your bubble. Sure, NBD for rich people to just “hand it over”. SMH.

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Anonymous wrote:So conservatives who did NOT think the Atlanta shootings were racially motivated, now believe this crime was racially motivated?

Whether in a mental institution or prison, whether behavior is result of mental illness or sociopath, all 3 and the Colorado shooter should be held accountable--as should all who commit horrific crimes.

Sure. But my point is that conservatives are angling this as a hate crime against a South Asian man by two black girls but they refused to consider the Atlanta shootings a hate crime.

Maybe these teen girls were having a bad day or bad year because of the pandemic.

PP here. We don't know if either/both are hate crimes or nor, but I'll agree that both situations require significant consequences. Personally, I think it's possible that neither situation is a "hate crime."

They're juveniles and their intent was to steal a car, not kill a man. It's vehicular manslaughter and they are already cooperating for a lighter sentence. They should be out before 30.

It was felony murder.

There's no way they're pleading guilty to felony murder. Any decent lawyer will get it down.

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Anonymous wrote:So conservatives who did NOT think the Atlanta shootings were racially motivated, now believe this crime was racially motivated?

Whether in a mental institution or prison, whether behavior is result of mental illness or sociopath, all 3 and the Colorado shooter should be held accountable--as should all who commit horrific crimes.

Sure. But my point is that conservatives are angling this as a hate crime against a South Asian man by two black girls but they refused to consider the Atlanta shootings a hate crime.

Maybe these teen girls were having a bad day or bad year because of the pandemic.

PP here. We don't know if either/both are hate crimes or nor, but I'll agree that both situations require significant consequences. Personally, I think it's possible that neither situation is a "hate crime."

They're juveniles and their intent was to steal a car, not kill a man. It's vehicular manslaughter and they are already cooperating for a lighter sentence. They should be out before 30.

I'm sure they are.

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Anonymous wrote:So conservatives who did NOT think the Atlanta shootings were racially motivated, now believe this crime was racially motivated?

Whether in a mental institution or prison, whether behavior is result of mental illness or sociopath, all 3 and the Colorado shooter should be held accountable--as should all who commit horrific crimes.

Sure. But my point is that conservatives are angling this as a hate crime against a South Asian man by two black girls but they refused to consider the Atlanta shootings a hate crime.

Maybe these teen girls were having a bad day or bad year because of the pandemic.

A bad day or week because of the pandemic?! That’s a justification for car jacking and murder. God, I hope you’re not on the jury.

It's sarcasm. Guess you missed this...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/03/17/jay-baker-bad-day/

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Anonymous wrote:So conservatives who did NOT think the Atlanta shootings were racially motivated, now believe this crime was racially motivated?

Whether in a mental institution or prison, whether behavior is result of mental illness or sociopath, all 3 and the Colorado shooter should be held accountable--as should all who commit horrific crimes.

Sure. But my point is that conservatives are angling this as a hate crime against a South Asian man by two black girls but they refused to consider the Atlanta shootings a hate crime.

Maybe these teen girls were having a bad day or bad year because of the pandemic.

PP here. We don't know if either/both are hate crimes or nor, but I'll agree that both situations require significant consequences. Personally, I think it's possible that neither situation is a "hate crime."

They're juveniles and their intent was to steal a car, not kill a man. It's vehicular manslaughter and they are already cooperating for a lighter sentence. They should be out before 30.

It was felony murder.

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Anonymous wrote:So conservatives who did NOT think the Atlanta shootings were racially motivated, now believe this crime was racially motivated?

Whether in a mental institution or prison, whether behavior is result of mental illness or sociopath, all 3 and the Colorado shooter should be held accountable--as should all who commit horrific crimes.

Sure. But my point is that conservatives are angling this as a hate crime against a South Asian man by two black girls but they refused to consider the Atlanta shootings a hate crime.

Maybe these teen girls were having a bad day or bad year because of the pandemic.

A bad day or week because of the pandemic?! That’s a justification for car jacking and murder. God, I hope you’re not on the jury.

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Anonymous wrote:So conservatives who did NOT think the Atlanta shootings were racially motivated, now believe this crime was racially motivated?

Whether in a mental institution or prison, whether behavior is result of mental illness or sociopath, all 3 and the Colorado shooter should be held accountable--as should all who commit horrific crimes.

Sure. But my point is that conservatives are angling this as a hate crime against a South Asian man by two black girls but they refused to consider the Atlanta shootings a hate crime.

Maybe these teen girls were having a bad day or bad year because of the pandemic.

PP here. We don't know if either/both are hate crimes or nor, but I'll agree that both situations require significant consequences. Personally, I think it's possible that neither situation is a "hate crime."

They're juveniles and their intent was to steal a car, not kill a man. It's vehicular manslaughter and they are already cooperating for a lighter sentence. They should be out before 30.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t forget to tell your children to always give up anything being stolen from you!! Stay calm, look down, give them whatever they want. This poor guy. His poor family. I hope those girls rot in prison for the rest of their lives.

Stop victim blaming. Shame on you!!!!

It's not victim-blaming, it's smart advice. If you're ever in an armed robbery give them what they want and you're more likely to be unharmed and survive. These were teenagers who were panicking because he wouldn't just step away from the car and there was another person filming.

Two things are correct: 1. he would be alive if they didn't decide to steal a car. 2. he would be alive if he had moved away from the car.

Your advice seems realistic in high crime areas where consequences for criminal behavior are minimal.

Also your advice seems realistic in hypotheticals but when the car jacking is actually happening people can only hope they would act the way they always bragged they would. But until the sh!t hits the fan people usually act much differently than they expected. They panic. Their instincts take over. So you can preach and preach and victim blame but you have zero way of ever knowing how you would react until you’re actually in the situation.

You are victim blaming and you’re a terrible person for doing it.

Nope not victim blaming. The man wasn't panicking, he was quite calm because he's an older man (grandfather) and immigrant who has probably seen a lot of things in his lifetime. He had more control over himself than the teenagers. He was calmy saying, "this is my car" while the teens were screaming for him to get out.

Based on my personal experience with other traumatic incidents I tend to freeze so I would not have been calmly speaking like him. I would have just moved away from the car after a short delay.