Anonymous
Post 05/21/2021 06:40     Subject: Handmaid’s Tale season 4
Anonymous wrote:I thought this episode was drawn out too, and it seemed like June was a bit psychotic.

I thought the behavior of the CERA humanitarian people (Canadians) was spot on. You know, we are devoting our lives to helping "you" but when one of "you" are actually in front of us needing your life saved, we would sooner throw you overboard than actually get off our butts to try to do something to help you. This is like so many "humanitarians" I've met in real life. No no, let us coldly calculate the cost-benefits of helping you.


What they said was true though, they could help one person or thousands. BTDT.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2021 06:26     Subject: Re:Handmaid’s Tale season 4
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Has this already been covered?

Was Janine really with June during the blast? Or was June just imagining her there because they had been through so much together.


I think she was there. And as bummed as I was to lose Alma, this was a good move on the writers/showrunner's part. Tightens up the story and adds a new angle.

But speaking of hallucinations, I listened to a podcast where one of the commentators thought the Nick/June scene on the bridge was a hallucination - the light was all dreamy, it seemed out of sequence, etc. I don't know if I buy that, BUT I really need an explanation of who Nick really is in Gilead. He was supposedly Waterford's driver, but was clearly much more than that. Now he's a pretty high-ranking commander. Like, I need some backstory on that.

Kinda hoping to see Agent Truello (or whatever his name is) debriefing June in the next episode. You're going down Waterfords.



I think Nick is a double agent working for the Americans.


Oh, I hope this is right. I really, really want Nick to turn out to be a good guy.


I actually presumed this all along. It never occurred to me that he was loyal to Gilead. I always thought he was a resistance spy.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2021 06:21     Subject: Handmaid’s Tale season 4
I thought this episode was drawn out too, and it seemed like June was a bit psychotic.

I thought the behavior of the CERA humanitarian people (Canadians) was spot on. You know, we are devoting our lives to helping "you" but when one of "you" are actually in front of us needing your life saved, we would sooner throw you overboard than actually get off our butts to try to do something to help you. This is like so many "humanitarians" I've met in real life. No no, let us coldly calculate the cost-benefits of helping you.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2021 00:30     Subject: Handmaid’s Tale season 4
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yall are cold! I'm not an overly emotional person but when June reunited with Luke and said she was sorry it was just her, I was boohoo'in like a baby!


Pretty much cried this whole episode. The idea of leaving Hannah behind, the anxiety of facing her father without her, the montage of baby Hannah clips... full ugly crying over here![/quote
Really? I cry at everything- but not this.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2021 00:26     Subject: Re:Handmaid’s Tale season 4
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has this already been covered?

Was Janine really with June during the blast? Or was June just imagining her there because they had been through so much together.


I think she was there. And as bummed as I was to lose Alma, this was a good move on the writers/showrunner's part. Tightens up the story and adds a new angle.

But speaking of hallucinations, I listened to a podcast where one of the commentators thought the Nick/June scene on the bridge was a hallucination - the light was all dreamy, it seemed out of sequence, etc. I don't know if I buy that, BUT I really need an explanation of who Nick really is in Gilead. He was supposedly Waterford's driver, but was clearly much more than that. Now he's a pretty high-ranking commander. Like, I need some backstory on that.

Kinda hoping to see Agent Truello (or whatever his name is) debriefing June in the next episode. You're going down Waterfords.



I think Nick is a double agent working for the Americans.


Oh, I hope this is right. I really, really want Nick to turn out to be a good guy.


Maybe I'm cold, but I have almost entirely written him off as well as Luke. They moth seem like real miquetoast personalities who have been more than content to let June put herself on the line multiple times while offering very little. I don't dislike them I just don't care about them or their storylines hardly at all.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2021 23:33     Subject: Handmaid’s Tale season 4
Anonymous wrote:Yall are cold! I'm not an overly emotional person but when June reunited with Luke and said she was sorry it was just her, I was boohoo'in like a baby!


Pretty much cried this whole episode. The idea of leaving Hannah behind, the anxiety of facing her father without her, the montage of baby Hannah clips... full ugly crying over here!
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2021 23:12     Subject: Handmaid’s Tale season 4
Yall are cold! I'm not an overly emotional person but when June reunited with Luke and said she was sorry it was just her, I was boohoo'in like a baby!
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2021 22:44     Subject: Re:Handmaid’s Tale season 4
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has this already been covered?

Was Janine really with June during the blast? Or was June just imagining her there because they had been through so much together.


I think she was there. And as bummed as I was to lose Alma, this was a good move on the writers/showrunner's part. Tightens up the story and adds a new angle.

But speaking of hallucinations, I listened to a podcast where one of the commentators thought the Nick/June scene on the bridge was a hallucination - the light was all dreamy, it seemed out of sequence, etc. I don't know if I buy that, BUT I really need an explanation of who Nick really is in Gilead. He was supposedly Waterford's driver, but was clearly much more than that. Now he's a pretty high-ranking commander. Like, I need some backstory on that.

Kinda hoping to see Agent Truello (or whatever his name is) debriefing June in the next episode. You're going down Waterfords.



I think Nick is a double agent working for the Americans.


Oh, I hope this is right. I really, really want Nick to turn out to be a good guy.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2021 22:43     Subject: Handmaid’s Tale season 4
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Anonymous wrote:Samira Wiley’s performance was so strong that I wish they’d gone deeper into her story with her girlfriend in Canada and the aide organization rather than reverse engineering old drama between Luke, June, and Moira.


I don’t care about the GF but agree SW was wonderful. The old drama was dumb and unnecessarily dilated the storyline. Could have been compressed to 1/2 the allotted screen time so we could have seen more action elsewhere. I think this may have been the single worst written episode of the series.


I loved Moira always, but this episode was exceptional. Also, Samira Wiley and her wife just had a baby!

I was so mad that June stole that pitcher. I think that it shows her pettiness at times.


I thought that the pitcher stealing scene actually showed that she really valued her times with Moira.



I really hated the flashbacks in this episode. Dumb, petty, who cares. The convo on the steps with Luke and the baby Hannah flashback would have sufficed perfectly well. Give Moira something better to do.


I think the flashbacks were important to show why June was vehemently against going to Canada. Luke was the one who wanted a baby desperately, and Moira had put the idea in June’s head that she alone wasn’t enough for him, without a baby. Luke and Moira had both complained about June remaining in Gilead, but the truth is they both played a part in that decision.


This is all a new plant because a) there is zero inherent conflict with Luke and b) they need conflict to make it interesting


June sent that tape telling Luke that Nicole's father was Nick and that she loved both Luke and Nick.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2021 22:06     Subject: Re:Handmaid’s Tale season 4
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has this already been covered?

Was Janine really with June during the blast? Or was June just imagining her there because they had been through so much together.


I think she was there. And as bummed as I was to lose Alma, this was a good move on the writers/showrunner's part. Tightens up the story and adds a new angle.

But speaking of hallucinations, I listened to a podcast where one of the commentators thought the Nick/June scene on the bridge was a hallucination - the light was all dreamy, it seemed out of sequence, etc. I don't know if I buy that, BUT I really need an explanation of who Nick really is in Gilead. He was supposedly Waterford's driver, but was clearly much more than that. Now he's a pretty high-ranking commander. Like, I need some backstory on that.

Kinda hoping to see Agent Truello (or whatever his name is) debriefing June in the next episode. You're going down Waterfords.



I think Nick is a double agent working for the Americans.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2021 21:18     Subject: Handmaid’s Tale season 4
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Samira Wiley’s performance was so strong that I wish they’d gone deeper into her story with her girlfriend in Canada and the aide organization rather than reverse engineering old drama between Luke, June, and Moira.


I don’t care about the GF but agree SW was wonderful. The old drama was dumb and unnecessarily dilated the storyline. Could have been compressed to 1/2 the allotted screen time so we could have seen more action elsewhere. I think this may have been the single worst written episode of the series.


I loved Moira always, but this episode was exceptional. Also, Samira Wiley and her wife just had a baby!

I was so mad that June stole that pitcher. I think that it shows her pettiness at times.


I thought that the pitcher stealing scene actually showed that she really valued her times with Moira.



I really hated the flashbacks in this episode. Dumb, petty, who cares. The convo on the steps with Luke and the baby Hannah flashback would have sufficed perfectly well. Give Moira something better to do.


I think the flashbacks were important to show why June was vehemently against going to Canada. Luke was the one who wanted a baby desperately, and Moira had put the idea in June’s head that she alone wasn’t enough for him, without a baby. Luke and Moira had both complained about June remaining in Gilead, but the truth is they both played a part in that decision.


This is all a new plant because a) there is zero inherent conflict with Luke and b) they need conflict to make it interesting
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2021 20:06     Subject: Handmaid’s Tale season 4
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Samira Wiley’s performance was so strong that I wish they’d gone deeper into her story with her girlfriend in Canada and the aide organization rather than reverse engineering old drama between Luke, June, and Moira.


I don’t care about the GF but agree SW was wonderful. The old drama was dumb and unnecessarily dilated the storyline. Could have been compressed to 1/2 the allotted screen time so we could have seen more action elsewhere. I think this may have been the single worst written episode of the series.


I loved Moira always, but this episode was exceptional. Also, Samira Wiley and her wife just had a baby!

I was so mad that June stole that pitcher. I think that it shows her pettiness at times.


I thought that the pitcher stealing scene actually showed that she really valued her times with Moira.



I really hated the flashbacks in this episode. Dumb, petty, who cares. The convo on the steps with Luke and the baby Hannah flashback would have sufficed perfectly well. Give Moira something better to do.


I think the flashbacks were important to show why June was vehemently against going to Canada. Luke was the one who wanted a baby desperately, and Moira had put the idea in June’s head that she alone wasn’t enough for him, without a baby. Luke and Moira had both complained about June remaining in Gilead, but the truth is they both played a part in that decision.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2021 20:04     Subject: Handmaid’s Tale season 4
I think if Martin Sheen was a commander and gave an impassioned speech on behalf of Gilead I’d feel very confused. Incidentally I just tried to explain this vision to my husband and said Martin Short instead of Martin Sheen and that took us in a whole different direction.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2021 19:24     Subject: Handmaid’s Tale season 4
Anonymous wrote:Here’s a fun exercise. Since Bradley Whitford’s in the series, let’s reimagine it if Aaron Sorkin was the show runner. To start with imagine how fast the handmaids would walk!


Elisabeth Moss was also in The West Wing!

I think it would be brilliant if Aaron Sorkin would direct an episode.

I listened to a podcast where David Tennant interviews Elisabeth Moss and I so wanted him to ask about her being on the West Wing with Whitford, but no dice.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2021 19:07     Subject: Handmaid’s Tale season 4
Here’s a fun exercise. Since Bradley Whitford’s in the series, let’s reimagine it if Aaron Sorkin was the show runner. To start with imagine how fast the handmaids would walk!