Anonymous wrote:

They’re pretty clear what they want.

Fascism. Authoritarianism. Minorities in a permanent underclass. Wealth concentrated in the hands of the few. Women relegated to the social position they held in the 1850s (with the exception of minority women who will be expected to get out there and work for almost free). “Christianity” as the state religion.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's a scaling problem in media analysis. Can one effectively acknowledge the problems that Democrats have while excoriating the much larger problems that Republicans have? And if you don't, is anyone who doesn't already agree with you going to trust you as an honest broker?

So far, no. The Democrats’ biggest problem is that Democrats don’t own the media like the GOP does and Democratic voters are not the good soldiers that Republican voters are.

Democrats haven’t lost the popular vote but squeaked into the White House (and, yes, I know what the constitution says; you must admit that fewer Americans want a Republican to be president), twice.

Democrats haven’t commit treason with Russia.

Democrats haven’t obstructed for the sake of obstruction.

Democrats haven’t tried to overthrow the government.

Etc…

DNC, Clinton campaign paid for research that resulted in Trump dossier:Report

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dnc-clinton-campaign-paid-for-research-in-trump-dossier-report/

Russian analyst who worked with Christopher Steele charged with lying to FBI

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/igor-danchenko-trump-steele-dossier-arrested-durham-probe/

Hasn't ready the Senate Intel Report on Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Try it on for size:
https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/publications/report-select-committee-intelligence-united-states-senate-russian-active-measures

Pay particular attention to Chapter V


and an article

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/senate-russia-report-proves-trump-was-wrong-mueller-was-right-ncna1237743

With over 200 witness interviews and roughly 1 million documents reviewed, the nearly 1,000-page report documents in detail the comprehensive campaign conducted by Russian President Vladimir Putin and his proxies to seek influence within President Donald Trump's campaign, help Trump win the 2016 presidential election and amplify polarization and division within American society.

From the party of losers that insist INSIST that they’re not racist, I bet precisely zero GOP will say this is inappropriate.

Anonymous wrote:The Kenosha murderer thread is locked now, but I think Moss’s remarks make sense here more. I think even the people who defend the murderer in Kenosha would admit that a 17 year old child illegally buying a gun and crossing state lines is not something that should be celebrated, but here is a sitting member of Congress suggesting we celebrate a vigilante murderer as a federal holiday. This is unreal and speaks to how far gone the GOP is.

That
Never
Happened.

They poll well because they lie and gaslight.

There is no actual policy agenda other than conservative judges and a culture of grievance.

Anonymous wrote:Is the purpose of this thread for a bunch of people to parrot the same talking points to each other while ignoring what they don't want to hear?

I'm sitting here not quite sure what is going on. After all - talking about a party broken beyond repair while ignoring they have a comfortable lead in the polls for the congressional elections and even polls showing Trump handily beating Biden in key swing states in a hypothetical match up is sort of the essence of delusion and denial. Maybe the real question should be is the Democratic party going to be broken beyond repair after '22? Because how else do you explain a hypothetically broken Republican party doing so well?

They own the media and they cheat. I guess anyone who has read this thread could go on to note that the other answer to why Republicans poll so well is that Republican voters are some of the slimiest, grossest people willing to overlook any and all massive personality flaws, felonies and any amount of corruption, and that there is no honor among them.

Is the purpose of this thread for a bunch of people to parrot the same talking points to each other while ignoring what they don't want to hear?

I'm sitting here not quite sure what is going on. After all - talking about a party broken beyond repair while ignoring they have a comfortable lead in the polls for the congressional elections and even polls showing Trump handily beating Biden in key swing states in a hypothetical match up is sort of the essence of delusion and denial. Maybe the real question should be is the Democratic party going to be broken beyond repair after '22? Because how else do you explain a hypothetically broken Republican party doing so well?

RNC is paying Trump's legal fees.

So all of those $25 dollar donations from across the country are paying attorneys to defend Trump from fraud rather than stake GOP candidates election campaigns.

I am good with that.

“The Daily Beast reported earlier Tuesday that Oklahoma Republican Party Chairman John Bennett sent a lengthy fundraising email in which he said McDaniel “MUST Change Course or RESIGN” if “she cannot or will not stand for who we say we are.”

Bennett’s email came after the RNC launched its “RNC Pride Coalition” at a Log Cabin Republicans event earlier this month. The gala, which took place at Mar-a-Lago, highlighted the national party’s efforts to reach out to LGBTQ voters and included guests such as former president Donald Trump, former first lady Melania Trump and former acting director of national intelligence Richard Grenell, according to Fox News Channel.”

The Kenosha murderer thread is locked now, but I think Moss’s remarks make sense here more. I think even the people who defend the murderer in Kenosha would admit that a 17 year old child illegally buying a gun and crossing state lines is not something that should be celebrated, but here is a sitting member of Congress suggesting we celebrate a vigilante murderer as a federal holiday. This is unreal and speaks to how far gone the GOP is.

Anonymous wrote:There's a scaling problem in media analysis. Can one effectively acknowledge the problems that Democrats have while excoriating the much larger problems that Republicans have? And if you don't, is anyone who doesn't already agree with you going to trust you as an honest broker?

So far, no. The Democrats’ biggest problem is that Democrats don’t own the media like the GOP does and Democratic voters are not the good soldiers that Republican voters are.

Democrats haven’t lost the popular vote but squeaked into the White House (and, yes, I know what the constitution says; you must admit that fewer Americans want a Republican to be president), twice.

Democrats haven’t commit treason with Russia.

Democrats haven’t obstructed for the sake of obstruction.

Democrats haven’t tried to overthrow the government.

Etc…

There's a scaling problem in media analysis. Can one effectively acknowledge the problems that Democrats have while excoriating the much larger problems that Republicans have? And if you don't, is anyone who doesn't already agree with you going to trust you as an honest broker?

Anonymous wrote:She is not wrong

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/11/18/its-not-polarization-we-suffer-republican-radicalization/

While it’s true that the country is more deeply divided along partisan lines than it has been in the past, it is wrong to suggest a symmetrical devolution into irrational hatred. The polarization argument too often treats both sides as equally worthy of blame, characterizing the problem as a sort of free-floating affliction (e.g., “lack of trust”). This blurs the distinction between a Democratic Party that is marginally more progressive in policy positions than it was a decade ago, and a Republican Party that routinely lies, courts violence and seeks to define America as a White Christian nation.

and

The “polarization” decriers cop out when describing the country in terms that suggest both sides are to blame. Honesty compels us to recognize that while progressives might have more ambitious goals for government, they work within the democratic structure and acknowledge reality. The same cannot be said of Republicans. Let’s face it: We would not have a democracy crisis and an epistemological crisis if not for the Republican Party.

She’s right on. The people who use a “both sides” argument are soft-headed numpties (or corporate owned media hacks with an axe to grind). The violence, the anti-democratic movement and the nascent fascism are all on the shoulders of the GOP.